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    Distance: 2.9960% / 0.02996014
    Target: IceQueen_scaled | ADC: 0.25x RC
    92.2 Germanic
    7.8 Roman

    Distance to: IceQueen_scaled
    0.03096437 GermanicEU_MA
    0.04103740 Germanic:SWE_IA
    0.05187676 CelticEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_2
    0.05376695 GermanicNK_BA
    0.05495426 Celtic:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
    0.05746816 Celtic:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR116
    0.06363114 CelticEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_78
    0.06495761 CelticEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_119
    0.07057340 Slavic:CZE_Early_Slav
    0.07504604 Roman:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA
    0.07818390 Slavic:Sorb
    0.08024386 Slavic:Ukrainian
    0.08486158 RomanEU_Roman
    0.08884940 CelticEU_Lech_MBA:OTTM_151ind2_d
    0.09549206 Paleo-Balkan:HRV_IA
    0.09729375 Roman:ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA
    0.10113232 Roman:ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA
    0.11690032 Roman:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
    0.15777674 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial

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    The Celtic samples are Continental so why I get a low result.


    Target: Grace_scaled
    Distance: 2.8398% / 0.02839774
    79.4 Germanic
    20.6 Celtic

    Distance to: Grace_scaled
    0.03048875 GermanicEU_MA
    0.04045569 Germanic:SWE_IA
    0.04739823 CelticEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_2
    0.05131057 Celtic:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
    0.05219020 GermanicNK_BA
    0.05288689 CelticEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_78
    0.05777832 Celtic:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR116
    0.06033807 CelticEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_119
    0.06219364 Slavic:CZE_Early_Slav
    0.07027141 Slavic:Sorb
    0.07212015 Slavic:Ukrainian
    0.07849833 Roman:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA
    0.08793736 CelticEU_Lech_MBA:OTTM_151ind2_d
    0.08805745 RomanEU_Roman
    0.10141706 Paleo-Balkan:HRV_IA
    0.10306995 Roman:ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA
    0.10546058 Roman:ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA
    0.11582436 Roman:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
    0.16335011 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial
    The Irish Brigade's battle cry at Fontenoy, "Cuimhnigí ar Luimneach agus ar feall na Sasanaigh," translates to "Remember Limerick and the treachery of the English." After seeing the devastation caused by the Irish Brigade, the Duke of Cumberland reportedly remarked, "God curse the laws that made those men our enemies".


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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley View Post
    The Celtic samples are Continental so why I get a low result.


    Target: Grace_scaled
    Distance: 2.8398% / 0.02839774
    79.4 Germanic
    20.6 Celtic

    Distance to: Grace_scaled
    0.03048875 GermanicEU_MA
    0.04045569 Germanic:SWE_IA
    0.04739823 CelticEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_2
    0.05131057 Celtic:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
    0.05219020 GermanicNK_BA
    0.05288689 CelticEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_78
    0.05777832 Celtic:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR116
    0.06033807 CelticEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_119
    0.06219364 Slavic:CZE_Early_Slav
    0.07027141 Slavic:Sorb
    0.07212015 Slavic:Ukrainian
    0.07849833 Roman:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA
    0.08793736 CelticEU_Lech_MBA:OTTM_151ind2_d
    0.08805745 RomanEU_Roman
    0.10141706 Paleo-Balkan:HRV_IA
    0.10306995 Roman:ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA
    0.10546058 Roman:ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA
    0.11582436 Roman:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
    0.16335011 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial
    Odd, for most British Islanders (that I've tested) the Celtic is consistent, despite its continental origins. It looks like you ran the calc at base distances tho. Maybe try 0.5x.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daco Celtic View Post
    Target: DacoCeltic_scaled
    Distance: 1.7606% / 0.01760636 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    33.8 Germanic
    28.2 Paleo-Balkan
    19.4 Celtic
    13.6 Slavic
    5.0 Roman

    Distance to: DacoCeltic_scaled
    0.03907768 Celtic:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR116
    0.04137009 Celtic: DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_78
    0.04593280 Celtic: DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_2
    0.04631012 Germanic: DEU_MA
    0.04759063 Celtic: DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_119
    0.05029466 Celtic: CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
    0.05458717 Roman:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA
    0.05725410 Slavic:CZE_Early_Slav
    0.05771696 Roman: DEU_Roman
    0.05873969 Celtic: DEU_Lech_MBA:OTTM_151ind2_d
    0.05875933 Paleo-Balkan:HRV_IA
    0.05977118 Germanic:SWE_IA
    0.06036753 Germanic: DNK_BA
    0.06974852 Roman:ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA
    0.07291113 Slavic:Sorb
    0.07389855 Slavic:Ukrainian
    0.07634531 Roman:ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA
    0.08061514 Roman:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
    0.12044158 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial
    Looks pretty good for you. Again, I want to emphasize to people that I recommend trying both 0.25x and 0.5x to potentially eliminate noise.

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    Distance: 2.7330% / 0.02733039
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    Quote Originally Posted by TeutonicBoyars View Post
    Odd, for most British Islanders (that I've tested) the Celtic is consistent, despite its continental origins. It looks like you ran the calc at base distances tho. Maybe try 0.5x.
    Target: Grace_scaled
    Distance: 2.8406% / 0.02840614 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    80.2 Germanic
    19.8 Celtic
    The Irish Brigade's battle cry at Fontenoy, "Cuimhnigí ar Luimneach agus ar feall na Sasanaigh," translates to "Remember Limerick and the treachery of the English." After seeing the devastation caused by the Irish Brigade, the Duke of Cumberland reportedly remarked, "God curse the laws that made those men our enemies".


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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesBond007 View Post
    Target: Kevin_scaled
    Distance: 2.4894% / 0.02489366
    56.0 Germanic
    44.0 Celtic

    Only 3 Germanic samples but 6 Celtic ones ? Hmmm, maybe that is not so good . Modified, maybe, better ? :

    Target: Kevin_scaled
    Distance: 1.5855% / 0.01585509
    71.0 Germanic
    29.0 Celtic


    Code:
    Germanic:DEU_MA,0.1223596,0.1303939,0.061169,0.048773,0.039792,0.0199408,0.010975,0.0052151,0.0013295,-0.0024966,-0.003735,0.001109,-0.0091576,-0.0038398,0.0161643,-0.0008352,-0.0133511,0.0032684,0.0041354,0.0040271,0.0060019,0.0037342,-0.0007273,0.011146,-0.0004429
    Germanic:SWE_IA,0.122929,0.123895,0.067127,0.058463,0.041238,0.02008,0.005875,0.007615,0.002863,-0.009659,0.003735,0.001948,-0.006987,0.003853,0.020358,-0.006762,-0.015385,0.006461,0.009427,0.00025,0.00025,0.002844,0.002465,0.011447,0.000359
    Germanic:DNK_BA,0.1160995,0.1370965,0.0633565,0.0524875,0.0296975,0.0301205,0.011163,-0.005192,-0.0072605,-0.003827,-0.002923,0.0089175,-0.004683,-0.0161015,0.0138435,0.0041765,0.00678,0.009565,0.0152095,0.0046275,0.017906,-0.0087795,0.000801,0.002651,-0.0113765
    Germanic:Norse,0.1281142,0.1294236,0.0681749,0.0618366,0.0366562,0.0195534,0.0069459,0.0088458,0.0002728,-0.0021463,-0.0048718,0.009608,-0.0101914,-0.0155362,0.0242939,0.0120656,0.0019703,0.0065033,0.002947,0.0051831,0.0056566,0.004053,0.0024102,0.0136563,0.0015302 
    Germanic:Longobard,0.114961,0.106631,0.048649,0.042959,0.028313,0.013387,0.011281,0.017768,-0.001432,-0.010023,-0.002436,0.006444,-0.01219,0.007156,0.018051,0.002387,0.00013,0.008488,0.011816,0.002876,0.010482,-0.000866,0.006039,0.005302,-0.000239 
    Germanic: Deutschendorf_Poprad_MA,0.124067,0.135065,0.059585,0.043282,0.041238,0.017291,-0.001175,0.002769,0.002659,-0.00328,-0.003248,0.007044,-0.012487,-0.006606,0.0057,0.020154,0.002217,0.000127,-0.000377,-0.00075,-0.00287,0.004081,0.000986,0.021328,0.000599
    Slavic:Sorb,0.130897,0.137096,0.068636,0.056848,0.050779,0.021196,0.011281,0.011076,-0.003477,-0.017312,-0.002111,-0.006744,0.013082,0.017891,-0.008415,0.001061,0.008475,-0.006208,0.007039,-0.004127,-0.003369,-0.007543,0.008011,-0.004458,0.001197
    Slavic:CZE_Early_Slav,0.12862,0.129988,0.068259,0.046835,0.02739,0.013387,0.007285,0.014076,-0.001841,-0.018406,-0.000812,-0.004346,0.003717,0.007156,-0.010993,-0.003182,0.011604,-0.002027,-0.002388,-0.004752,0.005615,0.000618,0.001725,-0.000964,-0.006706
    Slavic:Ukrainian,0.130927,0.124087,0.06835,0.057555,0.037687,0.021294,0.008765,0.011307,-0.002891,-0.0211,-0.001633,-0.007659,0.015356,0.021633,-0.011235,-0.001097,0.00469,-0.000699,0.002599,0.0017,-0.004499,-0.003479,0.006739,-0.004058,0.000722
    Paleo-Balkan:HRV_IA,0.132035,0.151314,0.033941,-0.01615,0.024928,-0.005857,-0.006345,0.007154,0.003681,0.028976,0.001786,0.01169,-0.02111,-0.001376,-0.005972,-0.008486,-0.006519,0.004941,0.005531,-0.014257,-0.001872,0.00507,0.001479,0.00253,0.003353
    Roman:DEU_Roman,0.117238,0.151314,0.045254,0.000323,0.052317,0.001952,0.0047,-0.006,0.01943,0.028064,-0.002436,0.004946,-0.017393,-0.013212,-0.004614,0.00411,0.009388,0.006334,-0.000377,5e-04,0.000624,0.001484,-0.000616,-0.00735,-0.001796
    Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial,0.1027016,0.1489866,-0.0237507,-0.0575546,0.0043725,-0.0203241,-0.0013366,-0.0049469,0.0004219,0.019336,0.0032343,0.0023073,-0.0039209,-0.0015167,-0.008033,-0.0017982,0.003773,0.0005358,0.0013329,-0.0030926,-0.0024437,0.0018729,-0.0008961,-0.0004869,0.0005663
    Roman:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA,0.125205,0.147252,0.045254,0.005814,0.044931,0.005578,-0.00094,0.003461,0.023725,0.039363,-0.004547,0.008992,-0.021407,-0.014726,0.012893,-0.001989,-0.001043,0.006208,0.003017,-0.003252,0.004742,0.002844,-0.006286,-0.000241,-0.002036
    Roman:ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA,0.126344,0.153345,0.035072,-0.014858,0.052317,-0.013387,-0.00094,0.003461,0.020452,0.04155,0.004222,0.010041,-0.013528,-0.008808,0.007465,-0.015646,-0.011995,-0.003041,0.004902,-0.012631,0.007861,0.006306,-0.007641,-0.001325,0.008023
    Roman:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA,0.127482,0.148267,0.034695,-0.017442,0.043085,-0.005578,-0.002115,-0.003231,0.024952,0.051391,-0.001461,0.013488,-0.034043,-0.010184,-0.008415,0.011535,0.018515,-0.003674,0.005405,0.004377,0.003244,-0.001731,0.002588,-0.006266,-0.007544
    Roman:ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA,0.133173,0.156392,0.044123,-0.010336,0.046778,-0.004741,0.008225,0.004154,0.023725,0.044283,-0.004222,0.01109,-0.02215,-0.011147,-0.006243,-0.006099,0.002738,-0.000127,0.004902,-0.004252,-0.009109,0.004328,-0.003081,-0.009519,-0.002874
    Celtic:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany,0.12862,0.1376045,0.0705215,0.034238,0.0481625,0.004044,0.0019975,0.001385,0.018509,0.019955,-0.012017,-0.0052455,-0.00944,0.0006195,0.0095685,-0.0013255,-0.005998,0.001774,0.0048395,0.0080665,0.001061,0.0019785,-0.0006165,-0.005422,-0.0034725
    Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_78,0.132035,0.135065,0.046386,0.034238,0.036314,0.003626,0.002585,0.005769,0.005318,0.010023,0.001299,0.011839,-0.016947,-0.015001,0.017236,0.015115,0.021513,0.005828,0.003268,0.003252,0.006239,-0.002102,0.001109,-0.002651,-0.001676
    Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_119,0.121791,0.140143,0.05242,0.026486,0.040623,0.003068,0.001175,0.001154,0.003477,0.017859,-0.001299,0.01124,-0.020961,-0.019818,0.01045,0.02201,0.01708,-0.0019,0.009679,0.002376,0.007986,0.003957,-0.005053,0.000964,0.008382
    Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_2,0.124067,0.140143,0.056191,0.041021,0.042162,0.016455,-0.003055,0.002077,0.014112,0.018406,0.002273,0.006744,-0.020218,-0.000413,0.011672,0.001591,-0.008996,-0.006334,0.013073,0.012631,0.006988,0.00371,0.001479,-0.005422,-0.00467
    Celtic:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR116,0.126344,0.140143,0.052797,0.019703,0.044624,0.001673,0.00282,0.008307,0.018816,0.019681,-0.000487,0.005845,-0.013528,-0.010459,0.009365,0.003447,-0.000391,0,0.000628,-0.004752,0.002246,0.002597,-0.006286,-0.000964,0.00455
    Celtic:DEU_Lech_MBA:OTTM_151ind2_d,0.127482,0.156392,0.047894,0.005491,0.04647,-0.011435,0.00329,0.011538,0.010022,0.031345,0.006496,0.012889,-0.012487,-0.01156,-0.0095,0.000796,0.001565,-0.003801,-0.005656,0.005753,-0.002995,0.009521,-0.001356,-0.006386,-0.011855
    For my samples this either inflates Celtic ancestry or Germanic. Oddly for me next to nothing changes.

    I'd say your original results are consistent with other British Islanders I've tested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley View Post
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    Distance: 2.8406% / 0.02840614 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    80.2 Germanic
    19.8 Celtic
    When you are Irish and you find out you are more Germanic than Celtic....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris596 View Post
    There's no way I'm 60% Slavic and 35% Roman and Celtic. More like 70-75% Paleo-Balkan and 25-30% Slavic.

    Target: Chris_scaled
    Distance: 2.0659% / 0.02065884 | ADC: 0.25x
    59.8 Slavic
    34.6 Roman
    5.2 Celtic
    0.4 Paleo-Balkan

    Distance to: Chris_scaled
    0.05276191 Slavic:CZE_Early_Slav
    0.05793308 Celtic:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR116
    0.06089640 CelticEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_78
    0.06169830 Slavic:Ukrainian
    0.06237788 Celtic:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
    0.06436128 RomanEU_Roman
    0.06460993 Slavic:Sorb
    0.06469257 GermanicEU_MA
    0.06477653 CelticEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_2
    0.06530590 CelticEU_Lech_MBA:OTTM_151ind2_d
    0.06736393 CelticEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_119
    0.07069966 Paleo-Balkan:HRV_IA
    0.07439019 Germanic:SWE_IA
    0.07515774 Roman:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA
    0.07556287 GermanicNK_BA
    0.07932392 Roman:ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA
    0.08869093 Roman:ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA
    0.08944316 Roman:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
    0.11703826 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial
    I apologize. In my experience it's extremely difficult for me to find samples that represent Hungarians. The CZE_Early_Slav sample seems to plot pretty close to modern Hungarians, so maybe if you just consider your Slavic score to represent broadly central-eastern European it's a good result.

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    Distance: 2.8888% / 0.02888817
    Target: Gallop_scaled | ADC: 0.25x RC
    83.5 Roman
    16.5 Celtic

    Distance: 2.8888% / 0.02888817
    Target: Gallop_scaled
    54.0 Roman:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA
    17.8 RomanEU_Roman
    14.5 Celtic:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
    11.7 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial
    2.0 CelticEU_Lech_MBA:OTTM_151ind2_d



    Distance to: Gallop_scaled
    0.03343290 Roman:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA
    0.03685931 RomanEU_Roman
    0.04191659 Celtic:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR116
    0.04723705 CelticEU_Lech_MBA:OTTM_151ind2_d
    0.04744565 Roman:ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA
    0.05082896 Roman:ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA
    0.05701638 Roman:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
    0.05921644 Paleo-Balkan:HRV_IA
    0.06031653 Celtic:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
    0.06091253 CelticEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_119
    0.06253935 CelticEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_2
    0.06458825 CelticEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_78
    0.08151249 GermanicEU_MA
    0.09186500 GermanicNK_BA
    0.09586523 Germanic:SWE_IA
    0.09665615 Slavic:CZE_Early_Slav
    0.10911774 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial
    0.10963740 Slavic:Sorb
    0.11387869 Slavic:Ukrainian
    https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-BY7449/
    E-V22 - E-BY7449 - E-BY7566 - E-FT155550
    According to oral family tradition E-FT155550 comes from a deserter of Napoleon's troops (1808-1813) who stayed in Spain and changed his surname.

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