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    Quote Originally Posted by Ion Basescul View Post
    So both of them are from Bucharest, which isn't telling much because Bucharest has people from all over Romania, Republic of Moldova, and beyond. My kits from Bucharest are very diverse. But I found this comment "Moldavians are the same with romanians, but my ancestry family is from Ucraine, Russia and far East Europe." and sent an email to check the origin. Could be the descendants of WW2 deportees.
    Your Bucuresti average is very representative of Southern Romania, I think. In fact probably of Romania period (not only Southern).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Your Bucuresti average is very representative of Southern Romania, I think. In fact probably of Romania period (not only Southern).
    Yes, it's pretty good, these are the constituents.

    N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan
    22.59 23.87 20.94 11.19 15.40 1.19 1.44 0 0.83 1 1.56 0 0
    19.51 25.17 22.50 11.60 17.60 1.19 0 0 1.22 1.00 0.19 0 0
    23.65 28.15 14.73 10.75 15.39 2.48 1.40 0.91 0.94 0.97 0 0.62 0
    17.66 26.24 17.15 11.12 23.51 1.38 0 0.80 1.53 0 0.62 0 0
    17.37 24.12 18.10 11.28 24.26 2.25 0 1.56 0.22 0 0.37 0.47 0
    23.14 24.14 18.07 13.36 16.13 2.60 1.37 0 0.83 0.15 0.21 0 0
    25.52 22.68 17.20 11.05 18.44 2.91 0 0 1.04 0.14 0 1.02 0
    23.42 22.53 16.80 12.12 17.72 4.15 0 0 1.19 0.75 0.26 1.03 0
    17.82 23.48 15.18 16.54 22.59 2.82 0.41 0 0.82 0 0.22 0.14 0
    19.94 20.52 13.16 14.70 24.20 3.69 0.83 0 1.31 1.35 0.28 0 0
    23.77 24.85 18.01 11.25 16.62 1.84 1.06 0 0.12 1.27 0.57 0.19 0.45
    22.45 27.66 17.29 9.82 16.87 1.65 0.48 2.02 0.83 0 0.38 0 0.54
    21.85 27.04 16.01 10.51 20.63 3.02 0 0 0 0.88 0.06 0 0
    22.95 27.28 17.74 9.04 16.91 1.97 0 0.78 1.73 0 1.59 0 0
    22.23 24.91 16.34 12.72 18.81 0 1.57 0.63 1.93 0.30 0.17 0 0.37
    20.00 21.78 20.01 12.13 21.84 1.40 0 0 0.68 0.87 0.30 1.00 0
    21.55 21.67 17.99 11.16 22.44 1.50 2.12 1.02 0 0.55 0 0 0
    20.96 29.77 17.67 8.48 17.93 2.87 0.21 0 1.04 0.77 0 0.28 0
    19.56 30.20 15.90 12.17 17.78 1.37 0 0.76 1.16 0 0 0.82 0.30
    22.17 24.79 17.79 9.89 17.27 4.85 0.09 1.05 0 1.73 0.20 0 0.18
    23.78 26.40 18.08 7.88 16.42 3.83 0 1.22 1.59 0.31 0 0 0.49
    20.43 26.30 19.27 12.74 17.15 0 1.68 1.12 0.11 1.19 0 0 0
    21.06 25.36 16.87 12.89 17.21 2.45 0.65 1.63 1.40 0.36 0.13 0 0
    20.44 24.92 16.80 7.61 23.66 2.48 1.33 0 2.72 0 0 0 0
    24.66 25.16 16.95 8.76 20.01 1.15 1.85 0.62 0.85 0 0 0 0
    24.57 24.09 16.25 12.66 17.71 2.52 0 0.42 1.29 0 0.19 0.08 0.22
    17.92 26.49 16.46 12.57 20.71 1.84 0.77 0.30 1.95 1.00 0 0 0
    25.55 21.57 17.83 9.76 19.81 3.99 0 0.61 0 0 0.87 0 0
    18.28 23.12 19.09 9.94 21.50 3.45 1.23 0 1.11 1.53 0.62 0.13 0
    22.08 25.94 19.51 10.78 18.12 1.49 1.44 0 0.48 0.12 0 0 0
    24.50 22.51 16.82 8.27 22.48 2.30 0.89 0.26 0.06 1.50 0.41 0 0
    19.66 22.55 18.39 12.86 21.33 3.27 0.17 0.05 1.19 0.25 0.12 0.16 0
    22.36 21.47 16.93 13.00 17.51 3.82 1.82 0 1.52 0.62 0.94 0 0
    21.80 32.21 16.73 8.05 18.21 0.60 0 0.98 0.56 0 0.48 0 0.39
    24.32 20.22 17.10 13.57 16.10 2.52 2.57 2.31 0 0.46 0.61 0 0.22
    20.58 22.72 19.35 11.62 21.22 2.02 0 0 0.85 0.39 1.16 0 0.09
    18.62 26.90 19.30 13.33 16.89 3.53 0.35 0.53 0.49 0.07 0 0 0
    23.68 23.16 20.58 9.38 15.66 1.32 2.68 1.43 0.60 1.11 0 0.24 0.19
    19.76 20.92 19.54 14.37 20.51 3.81 0 0 0.19 0.09 0.39 0 0.41
    23.70 26.10 15.96 11.00 19.00 1.34 1.24 0.30 1.35 0 0 0 0
    26.51 22.49 15.71 12.56 19.31 1.08 0.77 0 0.89 0.34 0 0.06 0.29
    21.71 27.40 19.14 7.92 19.95 1.29 0.33 0 2.03 0 0.23 0 0
    23.87 26.56 18.22 8.34 16.69 2.39 0 0.07 2.15 0.86 0.85 0 0
    28.11 23.80 17.71 7.84 17.78 1.53 0.17 1.30 1.07 0 0.67 0 0
    23.37 27.37 13.52 11.30 19.43 2.87 1.14 0 0.29 0.45 0.20 0.08 0
    25.96 23.08 15.11 10.38 17.83 2.80 0.84 0 2.29 0.82 0.39 0.07 0.44
    22.35 25.56 16.88 10.53 19.62 2.79 0 0.85 1.11 0.30 0 0 0
    23.50 25.45 16.92 7.27 21.40 1.97 0 1.17 1.03 0.89 0.39 0 0
    24.58 22.84 16.46 10.26 20.44 3.15 0 0 0.66 1.22 0 0 0.39
    25.41 23.53 18.35 8.65 20.09 1.94 0 0.07 0.57 1.40 0 0 0
    19.96 24.04 19.53 12.06 20.85 0.91 0.46 0 0.97 0 0.49 0.34 0.39
    24.90 27.13 14.81 13.08 15.60 0.17 0.11 0 2.00 0.82 0.41 0.96 0
    17.77 25.18 20.80 9.31 20.61 2.60 0.60 1.96 0.18 0.94 0 0 0
    22.97 26.30 16.88 10.33 18.69 3.75 0 0 1.09 0 0 0 0
    23.40 26.47 18.86 10.47 16.17 2.12 0 0 0.55 1.93 0 0 0
    24.66 23.90 16.52 10.04 19.87 3.28 0 0.48 0.68 0 0.58 0 0
    14.94 30.25 18.10 12.55 17.83 1.55 1.44 1.79 0 0.80 0.37 0 0.40
    21.01 25.38 16.21 13.16 19.19 2.17 0.90 0.16 0.80 0.92 0 0.10 0
    17.68 34.22 13.55 6.36 24.84 0.77 0.42 0 1.03 0.89 0 0 0.23
    27.41 24.25 18.52 10.78 15.36 0.83 0.22 0 1.45 0.85 0 0 0.33
    19.21 32.76 21.60 6.80 14.84 2.37 0 0 0.35 1.51 0.56 0 0
    23.83 18.19 17.88 15.42 19.05 1.51 1.58 1.54 0 0 0 1.01 0

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    Some kits from Botosani (2, 3 and 4 have Ukrainian surnames) and and one from Suceava (romanised Ukrainian surname (Botnar from Bodnar)).
    Some of them look like Ukrainian mutts or even purely Ukrainian in one case. A similar situation probably is not uncommon in Republic of Moldova, where Ukrainian surnames are very frequent in people identifying as Moldovan in the North. According to the spread of such surnames, this should be more common in Dniester-neigbhouring districts like Drochia, Soroca, Floresti, Donduseni, Soldanesti than those along Prut, where there is a notable diversity in Moldovan/Romanian surnames.Ukrainian surnames like Melnyk (Melnic), Lesnyk (Lisnic), Dontsov (Dontov), Belous, Tkach (Tcaci), Chumak (Ciumac), Kushnir (Cusnir) are popular along the Northern parts of the Dniester. To them add the numerous variety of smaller Ukrainian surnames ending in "-ic, uc, iuc, ac, co" or Russian ending in "-ov, in". These are very obviously non-Moldovan to any Moldovan.

    Botosani

    N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan
    26.92 30.37 13.79 8.19 17.01 0 0.48 0.11 2.19 0.50 0.38 0 0.05
    29.12 29.73 10.96 7.94 18.38 0.82 0 0 1.19 1.09 0.76 0 0
    28.53 35.39 12.70 4.80 16.04 0.40 0 0 1.40 0 0.17 0 0.51
    26.82 38.01 15.03 4.15 11.34 1.09 1.12 1.00 0 0.23 0.31 0 0.88
    25.39 28.61 16.91 9.54 11.68 2.25 1.43 0.52 1.65 1.20 0.41 0 0.41
    23.07 33.85 17.50 9.77 10.25 1.18 1.33 0.73 0 1.75 0.14 0.43 0

    Compared to others from Botosani

    N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan
    22.52 33.55 15.30 9.67 13.39 2.08 1.20 0.40 1.78 0 0 0 0
    26.31 31.16 12.22 10.56 13.39 1.79 0 0 0.94 0 2.06 0.14 1.45
    22.16 30.86 17.51 9.77 15.49 0 0 0.34 1.55 0.82 0.75 0.33 0.41
    24.65 26.31 13.74 10.46 18.52 2.72 1.12 0 0.80 1.49 0 0.18 0
    23.95 27.47 14.03 11.97 18.04 1.55 1.75 0 0.99 0.24 0 0 0
    22.58 31.36 14.37 10.90 16.01 2.56 0 0 1.23 0.53 0.19 0.27 0
    24.93 26.54 16.40 12.19 15.34 1.75 0 0.90 1.24 0.20 0.49 0 0
    22.62 34.43 14.66 9.52 16.56 0 0 0 1.92 0.29 0 0 0
    27.00 28.09 16.24 7.95 14.03 2.98 0.73 1.76 0 0.54 0.70 0 0
    26.38 33.40 12.80 4.41 17.06 1.02 0.98 0.63 1.06 0.96 0.90 0 0.41
    25.88 30.94 16.18 8.74 13.64 1.20 0 0.51 1.15 0.88 0.89 0 0
    18.23 40.00 15.66 8.32 10.78 0 2.34 0.76 1.00 1.93 0.99 0 0
    26.15 35.91 12.71 8.05 14.43 0.54 0 0 2.22 0 0 0 0

    Distance to: Botosani_1
    4.22203742 Romania_Moldavia_North
    4.67145588 Serb_central
    4.73587373 Serb_north
    4.84895865 Croat_South
    4.98906805 Székely
    4.99613851 Serb
    5.06054345 Croat_West
    5.23886438 Bosniak
    5.29328820 Moldova_Centre
    5.34953269 Csángó

    Distance to: Botosani_2
    7.08178650 Croat_West
    7.18391258 Székely
    7.42989906 Romania_Moldavia_North
    7.65158807 Hungarian_Transylvania
    7.83466655 Croat_South
    7.85559037 Csángó
    7.91994318 Serb_central
    8.08934484 Serb_north
    8.31320035 Bosniak
    8.33720577 Serb

    Distance to: Botosani_3
    5.77625311 Croat_East
    6.14486778 Croat
    6.25547760 Croat_West
    6.36030660 Romania_Ukrainian
    6.50137678 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
    6.53013782 Hungarian_Northern
    6.87392173 Hungarian_Alföld
    7.00964336 Croat_South
    7.02435050 Croat_North
    7.30698980 Hungarian

    Distance to: Botosani_4
    2.56419578 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
    2.80087486 Romania_Ukrainian
    5.52520588 Hungarian_Northern
    5.83930647 Croat_East
    6.00658805 Croat_North
    6.18671157 Slovak
    6.39355926 Croat
    6.64248447 Hungarian_Alföld
    6.74969629 Slovenian
    7.35300619 Moldova_Ukrainian

    Distance to: Botosani_5
    3.53089224 Csángó
    4.06033250 Székely
    4.11115556 Serb_north
    4.22058053 Romania_Moldavia_North
    4.25780460 Serb
    4.30001163 Hungarian_Transylvania
    4.35524971 Romania_Maramures
    4.52504144 Serb_central
    4.54744983 Croat_South
    4.61729358 Moldova_average

    Distance to: Botosani_6
    4.29041956 Moldova_North
    5.13976653 Bosniak
    5.80035344 Croat_South
    6.06927508 Croat_East
    6.16947324 Serb_north
    6.33364034 Moldova_average
    6.49259578 Croat
    6.50003077 Moldova_Centre
    6.67514045 Romania_Moldavia_North
    7.22578023 Serb

    Suceava

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    24.50 37.74 11.01 7.68 12.62 2.75 0.39 0.96 1.12 0 0.26 0 0.98

    Compared to others from Suceava

    N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan
    28.74 31.61 13.10 9.18 12.47 0.66 0.78 0 0.86 0.19 0.79 1.61 0
    26.88 29.15 13.73 8.13 14.66 2.27 2.06 0 2.15 0.88 0.10 0 0
    26.90 27.46 17.28 9.68 14.68 0 0 0 2.21 1.16 0.35 0 0.29
    30.06 26.76 16.04 8.87 14.56 1.54 0 1.00 0.58 0 0.60 0 0
    25.53 34.27 13.61 7.30 10.70 2.19 1.74 0 2.96 1.22 0.47 0 0
    23.46 34.89 15.09 7.43 11.82 3.66 0 0 0.39 2.00 0.65 0.60 0
    24.18 33.34 12.99 8.44 13.91 1.23 1.31 1.19 1.84 0.89 0.67 0 0
    24.99 32.68 13.35 7.67 16.04 1.42 0.95 0 0.78 1.26 0.87 0 0
    29.03 34.47 13.15 6.10 12.78 1.79 0.78 1.02 0.87 0 0 0 0
    21.99 33.52 14.77 11.31 11.99 2.49 0.5 1.04 2.23 0 0.16 0 0
    23.64 28.74 16.52 6.63 20.14 1.10 0 1.05 0.10 0.66 1.42 0 0
    23.25 30.39 14.82 11.44 15.45 0 0.23 0.28 2.95 0 0 1.16 0
    24.37 39.23 10.88 6.70 13.46 1.45 0 0 2.62 0.51 0.79 0 0
    24.60 32.75 14.70 8.38 10.93 2.70 2.02 0 1.75 1.72 0.25 0.20 0

    Distance to: Suceava_1
    4.34092156 Romania_Ukrainian
    4.83661038 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
    5.42084864 Croat_East
    5.75411157 Moldova_North
    7.28067991 Bosniak
    7.35595677 Croat
    7.68944731 Hungarian_Northern
    7.70815153 Moldova_Ukrainian
    8.04520975 Croat_North
    8.14317506 Hungarian_Alföld

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    Distance against local averages from Moldova, Romanian Moldavia and Ukraine

    Distance to: Botosani_1
    2.76054342 Moldova_Nisporeni
    4.24075465 Moldova_Balti
    4.28684033 Romania_Moldavia_Botosani
    4.30267359 Romania_Moldavia_Suceava
    4.41252762 Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui
    5.14540572 Moldova_Falesti
    5.35615534 Moldova_Calarasi
    5.58022401 Romania_Moldavia_Iasi
    5.81819560 Moldova_Chisinau
    5.89109497 Moldova_Soldanesti

    Distance to: Botosani_2
    5.10409639 Moldova_Nisporeni
    7.21864253 Romania_Moldavia_Suceava
    7.25446070 Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui
    7.41942046 Moldova_Balti
    7.54133940 Romania_Moldavia_Botosani
    7.64758786 Moldova_Falesti
    8.06451486 Moldova_Calarasi
    8.11966748 Moldova_Causeni
    8.47076148 Romania_Moldavia_Neamt
    8.52991794 Romania_Moldavia_Iasi

    Distance to: Botosani_3
    6.33385349 Moldova_Falesti
    6.36030660 Romania_Ukrainian
    6.49045453 Ukrainian_Khmelnytska
    6.57664808 Romania_Moldavia_Suceava
    6.90880597 Ukrainian_Ivano-Frankivska
    7.32856739 Moldova_Soldanesti
    7.39205655 Moldova_Balti
    7.44229131 Moldova_Floresti
    7.74421720 Moldova_Nisporeni
    7.76353657 Moldova_AneniiNoi

    Distance to: Botosani_4
    2.80087486 Romania_Ukrainian
    2.84397609 Ukrainian_Ivano-Frankivska
    4.09797511 Ukrainian_Khmelnytska
    4.96119945 Ukrainian_Zakarpatska
    5.09707759 Ukrainian_Odeska
    5.73924211 Moldova_1/2Moldovan_1/2EastSlavic
    5.80361094 Ukrainian_Ternopilska
    6.17954691 Ukrainian_Lvivska
    6.69727557 Moldova_AneniiNoi
    7.35300619 Moldova_Ukrainian

    Distance to: Botosani_5
    2.39056479 Moldova_Straseni
    3.00754052 Moldova_Calarasi
    3.31739356 Romania_Moldavia_Csango
    3.34959699 Moldova_Ialoveni
    4.00851593 Romania_Moldavia_Iasi
    4.20574607 Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui
    4.37979452 Moldova_Telenesti
    4.38669580 Moldova_Ocnita
    4.91166978 Moldova_Balti
    5.12847931 Romania_Moldavia_Suceava

    Distance to: Botosani_6
    4.36826052 Moldova_Glodeni
    4.42249929 Moldova_Ocnita
    4.45025842 Moldova_Edinet
    4.96595409 Moldova_Orhei
    5.07099596 Moldova_Straseni
    5.27301621 Ukrainian_Chernivetska
    5.55592477 Moldova_1/2Moldovan_1/2EastSlavic
    5.57583178 Moldova_Singerei
    5.61003565 Moldova_Chisinau
    5.74604212 Moldova_Telenesti

    Distance to: Suceava_1
    4.26768087 Ukrainian_Odeska
    4.34092156 Romania_Ukrainian
    4.66673333 Moldova_1/2Moldovan_1/2EastSlavic
    4.69640288 Moldova_Floresti
    4.70654863 Ukrainian_Chernivetska
    4.94933329 Ukrainian_Khmelnytska
    4.95089891 Ukrainian_Zakarpatska
    5.06788911 Ukrainian_Ivano-Frankivska
    5.54083026 Moldova_Briceni
    5.94563706 Moldova_Falesti

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    Russian from Chisinau, doesn't know of any non-Russian ancestors, but there must be something if you ask me...East Med is too high for unmixed Russians

    N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan
    21.17 43.05 11.68 7.26 10.95 1.47 0.69 0.41 2.73 0.26 0.18 0.15 0

    Compared to other East Slavs from Moldova (mostly Ukrainians, apart from the second one from Bender who identifies as Russian, but seems to have Roma admixture)

    N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan
    31.25 43.56 7.87 4.74 10.12 0 0 1.05 0 0.39 0 1.01 0
    19.49 39.49 12.12 12.18 8.25 0 3.82 1.27 0.87 0.89 1.11 0.51 0
    24.82 40.06 14.14 5.78 8.66 1.42 1.15 0 1.83 0.97 0 0.65 0.49
    25.21 40.00 10.23 6.74 11.15 2.47 0.36 0.86 1.34 0.41 0.28 0 0.94
    22.58 46.11 11.36 8.38 7.13 0 0 0 1.82 0.58 0.73 0 1.32
    31.62 45.30 6.36 6.04 4.53 0 1.11 0 2.50 0.85 0.82 0.86 0
    23.24 42.33 14.39 7.53 6.33 0 1.22 0 2.70 0.62 0.07 1.10 0.47
    29.08 43.59 11.28 4.32 8.26 0 1.73 0 0 0.99 0.30 0 0.45
    25.50 39.14 13.68 10.09 7.49 0.57 0.24 0.75 1.75 0 0.39 0.10 0.30
    24.49 40.51 12.86 5.03 10.83 1.66 1.63 1.55 0 0.54 0.12 0.77 0
    26.60 36.87 14.39 5.74 9.35 2.31 0.72 0.60 1.58 0 1.22 0.50 0.09

    Distance to: Chisinau_Russian
    6.86212066 Moldova_Ukrainian
    7.55079466 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
    8.64232029 Ukrainian_Lviv
    8.68861324 Russian_Southwest
    8.78607990 Ukrainian
    9.47000000 Ukrainian_Belgorod
    10.05871264 Moldova_North
    10.75374818 Croat_East
    10.90303627 South_Polish
    11.19445845 Russian_average
    11.99340235 Russian_Smolensk
    12.02399268 Slovak
    12.10542027 Estonian_Polish
    12.29087060 Hungarian_Northern
    12.46362708 Polish
    12.48004808 Bosniak
    12.78363016 Croat
    12.83370173 Russian_Kostroma
    12.96622921 Croat_North
    13.17610337 Belorussian
    13.22702158 Russian_Kargopol
    13.28842353 Erzya_Mordovian
    13.35525365 Hungarian_Alföld
    13.45641111 Sorb_Lusatia
    13.56223064 Croat_South

    Distance to: Chisinau_Russian
    4.53523980 Ukrainian_Poltavska
    5.34389371 Ukrainian_Odeska
    5.90637791 Ukrainian_Mykolaivska
    6.49093984 Ukrainian_Donetska
    6.86212066 Moldova_Ukrainian
    7.10309792 Ukrainian_Harkivska
    7.18718999 Ukrainian_Zaporizka
    7.51723353 Ukrainian_Kyivska
    7.55673871 Ukrainian_Zhytomyrska
    7.75677124 Ukrainian_Zakarpatska

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    Updated averages for Botosani and Suceava with those from above added in

    Name Number of Samples N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan
    Romania_Moldavia_Botosani 19 24.91 31.89 14.67 8.78 14.81 1.26 0.66 0.40 1.17 0.67 0.48 0.07 0.22
    Romania_Moldavia_Suceava 15 25.47 32.47 14.07 8.33 13.75 1.68 0.72 0.44 1.56 0.70 0.49 0.24 0.08

    Distance to all local averages from Romania, Moldova and Ukraine

    Distance to: Romania_Moldavia_Botosani
    1.17923704 Moldova_Balti
    2.27314760 Moldova_Falesti
    2.49198716 Moldova_Chisinau
    2.64979244 Moldova_Singerei
    3.01574203 Romania_Crisana_Salaj
    3.23030958 Moldova_Ialoveni
    3.30998489 Moldova_Nisporeni
    3.45401216 Moldova_Soldanesti
    3.64156560 Romania_Maramures_Maramures
    3.82755797 Moldova_Ocnita
    4.01464818 Moldova_Calarasi
    4.04676414 Moldova_Straseni
    4.25094107 Moldova_Telenesti
    4.28115639 Romania_Moldavia_Iasi
    4.39963635 Moldova_Briceni
    4.44933703 Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui
    4.48091509 Moldova_Orhei
    4.97341935 Romania_Dobruja_Tulcea
    5.45595088 Ukrainian_Chernivetska
    5.51224999 Moldova_Cimislia
    5.57022441 Romania_Moldavia_Csango
    5.57833308 Romania_Moldavia_Neamt
    5.83821034 Moldova_Edinet
    5.98540725 Romania_Moldavia_Bacau
    6.24436546 Moldova_Ungheni

    Distance to: Romania_Moldavia_Suceava
    1.40673381 Moldova_Falesti
    1.55393050 Moldova_Balti
    3.07676778 Moldova_Chisinau
    3.50921644 Romania_Crisana_Salaj
    3.55472924 Moldova_Ocnita
    3.67552717 Moldova_Singerei
    3.93342090 Moldova_Ialoveni
    4.03495973 Moldova_Briceni
    4.05442968 Moldova_Telenesti
    4.14980722 Moldova_Soldanesti
    4.32031249 Moldova_Nisporeni
    4.34490506 Moldova_Straseni
    4.53692627 Moldova_Orhei
    4.61858203 Moldova_Calarasi
    4.75246252 Romania_Maramures_Maramures
    4.79231677 Ukrainian_Chernivetska
    4.98717355 Romania_Moldavia_Csango
    5.09945095 Moldova_Rezina
    5.34008427 Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui
    5.37689501 Romania_Moldavia_Iasi
    5.51981884 Moldova_Edinet
    5.64749502 Moldova_Transnistria
    5.81266720 Moldova_1/2Moldovan_1/2EastSlavic
    6.26217215 Romania_Dobruja_Tulcea
    6.34883454 Moldova_AneniiNoi

    Looking good imo, even with the inclusion of some very obvious outliers towards Ukraine. I guess that's expected in such an ethnically diverse region in the past.

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    Hopefully you're not including recetly mixed people in official averages you make in Vahaduo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    A certain Ciobanu which sounds Moldovan to me

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Baltic 35.39
    2 North_Atlantic 18.92
    3 East_Med 14.69
    4 West_Med 13.66
    5 West_Asian 9.66
    6 Red_Sea 4.24
    7 Siberian 2.89
    8 Oceanian 0.54

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Moldavian 7.19
    2 Croatian 9.52
    3 Serbian 10.67
    4 Romanian 12.02
    5 Bulgarian 12.59
    6 Ukrainian_Lviv 12.96
    7 Hungarian 13.43
    8 Ukrainian 14.2
    9 South_Polish 14.88
    10 Southwest_Russian 15.57
    11 Ukrainian_Belgorod 15.92
    12 Polish 17.49
    13 Austrian 18.05
    14 Russian_Smolensk 18.08
    15 Tatar 18.42
    16 Estonian_Polish 18.45
    17 East_German 18.5
    18 Kargopol_Russian 19.22
    19 Belorussian 19.24
    20 Erzya 19.34

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 68.8% Estonian_Polish + 31.2% Cyprian @ 3.44
    2 59.5% Erzya + 40.5% East_Sicilian @ 3.49
    3 72.5% Southwest_Russian + 27.5% Cyprian @ 3.53
    4 58.5% Erzya + 41.5% Central_Greek @ 3.56
    5 51.5% Erzya + 48.5% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.58
    6 63.4% Lithuanian + 36.6% Cyprian @ 3.62
    7 69.3% Russian_Smolensk + 30.7% Cyprian @ 3.73
    8 74.9% Southwest_Russian + 25.1% Samaritan @ 3.89
    9 65.3% Erzya + 34.7% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.89
    10 62.3% Erzya + 37.7% South_Italian @ 3.9
    11 65.6% Erzya + 34.4% Italian_Jewish @ 3.96
    12 76.7% Ukrainian + 23.3% Samaritan @ 3.98
    13 77.2% Ukrainian + 22.8% Lebanese_Christian @ 4.03
    14 68% Kargopol_Russian + 32% Cyprian @ 4.11
    15 65.6% Erzya + 34.4% Sephardic_Jewish @ 4.13
    16 71.4% Estonian_Polish + 28.6% Samaritan @ 4.13
    17 60.1% Erzya + 39.9% Ashkenazi @ 4.14
    18 78.9% Ukrainian_Lviv + 21.1% Lebanese_Christian @ 4.14
    19 61.4% Bulgarian + 38.6% Erzya @ 4.14
    20 71.9% Estonian_Polish + 28.1% Lebanese_Christian @ 4.15
    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Done.
    His NA is fucking low. The data source appears to be MyHeritage though.

    Apparently his sibling or something like that (2,700+ cM shared)

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Baltic 33.11
    2 North_Atlantic 18.96
    3 West_Med 16.96
    4 West_Asian 11.31
    5 East_Med 10.52
    6 Red_Sea 4.28
    7 Siberian 2.03
    8 Oceanian 1.71
    9 East_Asian 1.1

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Moldavian 6.24
    2 Croatian 9.35
    3 Serbian 10.33
    4 Romanian 11.5
    5 Bulgarian 12.22
    6 Ukrainian_Lviv 13.27
    7 Hungarian 13.42
    8 Ukrainian 14.87
    9 South_Polish 15.6
    10 Austrian 17.18
    11 Southwest_Russian 17.32
    12 Ukrainian_Belgorod 17.36
    13 East_German 17.66
    14 Polish 18.19
    15 Tatar 18.89
    16 Russian_Smolensk 19.28
    17 Estonian_Polish 19.92
    18 Greek_Thessaly 20.08
    19 Kargopol_Russian 20.44
    20 Belorussian 20.9

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 93.1% Moldavian + 6.9% Bedouin @ 5.34
    2 94.3% Moldavian + 5.7% Saudi @ 5.38
    3 93.4% Moldavian + 6.6% Georgian_Jewish @ 5.41
    4 93.1% Moldavian + 6.9% Syrian @ 5.44
    5 93.7% Moldavian + 6.3% Samaritan @ 5.44
    6 94% Moldavian + 6% Lebanese_Christian @ 5.48
    7 76.8% Ukrainian_Lviv + 23.2% Cyprian @ 5.49
    8 94% Moldavian + 6% Kurdish_Jewish @ 5.5
    9 93.8% Moldavian + 6.2% Assyrian @ 5.5
    10 93.2% Moldavian + 6.8% Cyprian @ 5.51
    11 93.7% Moldavian + 6.3% Jordanian @ 5.51
    12 93.4% Moldavian + 6.6% Lebanese_Muslim @ 5.52
    13 93.9% Moldavian + 6.1% Armenian @ 5.53
    14 92.6% Moldavian + 7.4% Turkish @ 5.54
    15 94.4% Moldavian + 5.6% Abhkasian @ 5.54
    16 92.7% Moldavian + 7.3% Kabardin @ 5.55
    17 94.2% Moldavian + 5.8% Georgian @ 5.56
    18 93% Moldavian + 7% Balkar @ 5.56
    19 94.3% Moldavian + 5.7% Iranian_Jewish @ 5.58
    20 94.2% Moldavian + 5.8% Palestinian @ 5.59
    So these individuals are mixed, 3/4 Romanian, 1/4 Moldovan Russian, but fully from the Moldavia region. The mix is 1/4 Suceava, 1/4 Neamt (village literally on the "border" with Suceava), 1/4 Vaslui and 1/4 Russian from Chisinau. This particular mix place them well within the Moldovan/Romanian diversity from Moldavia, but G25 manages to pick them up as mixed, probably due to how the ratio between North Atlantic and Baltic is unbalanced.

    N_Atlantic Baltic West_Me
    d
    West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan
    18.92 35.39 13.66 9.66 14.69 4.24 0 0 2.89 0 0.54 0 0
    18.96 33.11 16.96 11.31 10.52 4.28 0 1.10 2.03 0 1.71 0 0

    Distance to: Moldavia_1
    6.42600965 Moldova_North
    7.37241480 Moldova_average
    7.46887542 Moldova_Centre
    7.80697765 Bosniak
    8.45240794 Romania_Moldavia_North
    9.08175644 Serb_north
    9.10774396 Croat_East
    9.46930832 Croat_South
    9.70255636 Serb
    10.04842774 Romania_Maramures
    10.05291500 Serb_central
    10.29534846 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
    10.75801562 Croat
    11.18048299 Romania_Moldavia_South
    11.24157462 Serb_south
    11.32366107 Csángó
    11.42813633 Croat_West
    11.74828073 Romania_average
    11.75757628 Bulgaria_Northwestern
    12.06642449 Romania_Banat
    12.10495353 Moldova_South
    12.15574350 Romania_Transylvania
    12.23467204 Székely
    12.25668389 Hungarian_Alföld
    12.61592644 Pomak_Bulgaria

    Distance to: Moldavia_2
    6.72491636 Moldova_North
    7.36541920 Moldova_average
    7.69463449 Moldova_Centre
    8.16932066 Bosniak
    8.78578966 Romania_Moldavia_North
    8.85462591 Serb_north
    9.34646992 Serb
    9.41136016 Croat_South
    9.56535415 Romania_Maramures
    9.86481120 Croat_East
    9.91488780 Serb_central
    10.66094743 Csángó
    10.74010708 Romania_Moldavia_South
    10.75237648 Croat
    11.22923862 Romania_average
    11.44640992 Serb_south
    11.47937716 Romania_Banat
    11.49661689 Moldova_South
    11.50083475 Croat_West
    11.52516377 Romania_Transylvania
    11.69525972 Székely
    11.83435254 Bulgaria_Northwestern
    11.83780807 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
    11.86632631 Romania_Crisana
    11.93712696 Hungarian_Alföld

    Distance to local averages from Moldova, Romania and Ukraine

    Distance to: Moldavia_1
    5.67854735 Moldova_Edinet
    6.17185547 Ukrainian_Chernivetska
    6.53622215 Moldova_Soldanesti
    6.57361392 Moldova_Chisinau
    6.69655135 Moldova_Briceni
    6.75268835 Moldova_Singerei
    7.35522943 Moldova_Glodeni
    7.61502462 Moldova_AneniiNoi
    7.75069674 Romania_Dobruja_Tulcea
    7.84181102 Moldova_Balti
    7.94925154 Moldova_Falesti
    7.98223653 Moldova_Cimislia
    8.05304911 Moldova_Floresti
    8.20889152 Moldova_Telenesti
    8.35452572 Moldova_Ialoveni
    8.45986998 Moldova_Orhei
    8.65902997 Moldova_1/2Moldovan_1/2EastSlavic
    8.67843304 Moldova_Hincesti
    8.71868683 Moldova_Straseni
    8.74025743 Romania_Crisana_Salaj
    9.37312648 Moldova_Ungheni
    9.65001554 Moldova_Ocnita
    9.65532496 Romania_Moldavia_Iasi
    9.69126411 Romania_Maramures_Maramures
    10.04699955 Moldova_Calarasi

    Distance to: Moldavia_2
    4.80450830 Moldova_Glodeni
    4.99405647 Moldova_Edinet
    6.90128249 Moldova_Singerei
    6.98384565 Moldova_Chisinau
    7.17761799 Moldova_Straseni
    7.23897783 Moldova_Telenesti
    7.44648239 Ukrainian_Chernivetska
    7.55789653 Moldova_Ialoveni
    7.78544154 Moldova_Hincesti
    7.81941174 Romania_Crisana_Salaj
    7.90869774 Moldova_Orhei
    8.17116271 Moldova_Briceni
    8.60197652 Moldova_Cimislia
    8.65726285 Romania_Dobruja_Tulcea
    8.66183006 Moldova_Balti
    8.66833894 Moldova_Ocnita
    8.67591494 Moldova_Soldanesti
    8.87167966 Moldova_1/2Moldovan_1/2EastSlavic
    8.94869264 Moldova_Falesti
    9.09255740 Romania_Moldavia_Iasi
    9.14514079 Moldova_Ungheni
    9.17435011 Romania_Maramures_Maramures
    9.24591261 Moldova_Calarasi
    9.79753540 Moldova_AneniiNoi
    9.86755289 Romania_Moldavia_Bacau

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    Hopefully you're not including recetly mixed people in official averages you make in Vahaduo.
    No, I am not, which is why I have averages for full ethnics, halfies and in those like Roma where it is more obvious even quarters.
    Those from above are not recently mixed. It just happens that in regions where Ukrainian presence was massive, such people have a higher likelihood of preserving this admixture due to mixing with people who carry similar genetic profiles. None of them identify as Ukrainian.

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    ^^^^Thanks for explanation, that makes sense.

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