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    Quote Originally Posted by Pine View Post
    Get them on G25. K13 is TA autism.
    G25 is absolutely inferior to K13 when it comes to moderns, and people even need to pay for that trash. No comment.

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    Here is the final set of academic samples:

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    UKR-1951_Rovenskaya,28.04,45.29,12.53,5.53,3.7,1.88,1.3,0.48,0.11,0.18,0.95,0,0
    UKR-1978_Rovenskaya,29.85,44.46,9.18,11.42,0.12,3.09,0,0,0.89,0.68,0.14,0.01,0.17
    UKR-1992_Rovenskaya,31.96,47.65,9.32,4.12,3.05,0.46,0,0,1.75,0.19,1.03,0.46,0
    UKR-1283_Sumskaya,30.73,39.21,15.31,5.65,3.15,3.12,0,0,0.73,1.21,0.24,0.26,0.38
    UKR-1291_Sumskaya,27.9,41.75,14.39,8.24,3.81,0,0.58,0,0.37,1.69,0.88,0,0.38
    UKR-1292_Sumskaya,26.79,49.29,10.68,2.55,4.57,0.7,0.18,0.05,2.73,1.76,0.06,0.64,0.01
    UKR-1377_Sumskaya,25.49,46.53,8.26,6.6,9.46,0.66,0.08,1.21,0.93,0.21,0.04,0.51,0
    UKR-1399_Sumskaya,31.67,45.38,9.45,3.17,6.31,0.49,0,1.08,1.25,0,0.55,0.04,0.6
    UKR-1903_Zhitomirskaya,26.39,45.82,7.8,4.43,8.21,1.07,3.08,2.53,0.64,0.03,0,0,0
    UKR-1909_Zhitomirskaya,24.56,51.21,9.91,5.02,6,0,0.18,0,2.4,0.72,0,0,0
    UKR-1913_Zhitomirskaya,28.01,41.86,9.15,2.99,12.03,0,0,1.52,2.4,0,0.95,0.03,1.06
    UKR-2021_Zhitomirskaya,26.79,45.04,9.87,4.66,7.02,1.29,2.44,0.05,0.44,1.4,1,0,0
    thanks to Lucas for the dataset.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ion Basescul View Post
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    are these samples confirmed? (or their last names just peak in Cherkasy?)

    Quote Originally Posted by smd555 View Post
    No academic kits, only k-13 posted by Ion Basescul presumably from those places
    ukr1,28.9,43.25,8.42,8.8,6.51,0.14,0.34,0,1.75,0.2 ,0.63,0.96,0.11
    ukr2,28.47,43.03,9.23,6.32,9.2,1.43,0,1.34,0,0.62, 0.07,0,0.3
    ukr3,30.63,39.95,12.74,6.87,3.94,1,1.72,1.02,0.75, 0.66,0,0.08,0.63
    ukr4,29.06,40.34,11.94,4.55,6.64,2.75,0,0.22,2.57, 0.93,0.85,0,0.15
    ukr5,29.83,42.15,13.28,8.56,2.62,0,0.92,0,0,1.88,0 .72,0,0.05

    Including that sample from Zolotonosha they have a specific feature - the highest North-Atlantic component among other average Ukrainian populations.
    Last edited by vbnetkhio; 01-02-2021 at 09:03 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smd555 View Post
    Ion, where do you find Ukrainian samples? On some forums?
    One to many on GEDmatch, combined with some googling to find the person. I've only posted those that I could track down. If you want to go deeper to get both sides of the family tree, then you would need to email them. Some of them have GEDmatch trees, but that's a rarity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ion Basescul View Post
    For Ivano-Frankivsk I can share those that make the average on K13

    Ind N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan
    Ukrainian_Ivano-Frankivsk_1 29.11 36.54 13.52 5.76 11.18 0 0 0 2.17 0.75 0 0 0.96
    Ukrainian_Ivano-Frankivsk_2 27.11 37.38 12.55 4.40 12.93 2.10 0 0 3.22 0.29 0 0 0
    Ukrainian_Ivano-Frankivsk_3 28.09 36.85 13.54 5.22 12.79 0 1.12 0 1.84 0 0.56 0 0
    Ukrainian_Ivano-Frankivsk_4 23.99 35.97 15.62 8.12 10.41 0.69 2.01 1.01 1.25 0.78 0 0.15 0
    Ukrainian_Ivano-Frankivsk_5 29.3 38.66 10.9 5.47 12.03 0.64 0.69 0 0.23 0.93 0.18 0.94 0
    Ukrainian_Ivano-Frankivsk_6 26.73 37.91 15.6 5.36 11.7 0 1 0 0 0.6 0 0 1.09
    Ukrainian_Ivano-Frankivsk_7 24.63 40.69 13.94 6.02 8.42 2.41 2.26 0.65 0.37 0.42 0.18 0 0
    Ukrainian_Ivano-Frankivsk_8 23.65 42.35 13.61 5.3 8.99 1.24 2.61 0.38 1.37 0.1 0 0.4 0
    Ukrainian_Ivano-Frankivsk_9 24.52 40.65 14.67 2.83 12.23 0.71 1.57 0 1.36 0.91 0.45 0.07 0
    Ukrainian_Ivano-Frankivsk_10 24.62 37.38 14.91 5.85 11.35 3.37 0 0 1.65 0.2 0.67 0 0
    Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk_average 26.18 38.44 13.89 5.43 11.20 1.12 1.13 0.20 1.35 0.50 0.20 0.16 0.21
    is the Lundiak family already in here? (maybe in a slightly different version from what I have?)
    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...ical-to-Croats

    samples 1 and 4 have results simialr to 2 of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ion Basescul View Post
    One to many on GEDmatch, combined with some googling to find the person. I've only posted those that I could track down. If you want to go deeper to get both sides of the family tree, then you would need to email them. Some of them have GEDmatch trees, but that's a rarity.
    And if I just want to search admixture results of person with some regions with possibility of connecting with that person - what is the best way?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    You can also use Daos' mother
    what about Daos himself? and Lemgrant and his mother? they are a mix of different regions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    and that Lugansk girl.
    is this A-ha?

    A-ha(ukrainian),26.32,45.80,7.97,7.78,5.10,0.75,2.54 ,0.06,1.99,0,0,1.68,0

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    Quote Originally Posted by smd555 View Post
    And if I just want to search admixture results of person with some regions with possibility of connecting with that person - what is the best way?
    start with one Ukrainian kit, check it's matches on gedmatch. then you can check those who have a gedcom (family tree), and those with Ukrainian names, and contact them via email.

    than you can also check the matches of these new kits you found...

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    Quote Originally Posted by smd555 View Post
    And if I just want to search admixture results of person with some regions with possibility of connecting with that person - what is the best way?
    It's usually by chance, but if you are lucky then you will see strong matches at the top (70cm+) for someone. In cases like this they could descend from same or nearby localities. Another trick is to take two kits from a region/locality and use them for "People who match both, or 1 of 2 kits". It's a tedious process, there is no easy way for this, as GEDmatch doesn't have a proper global search function. You can only search for those surnames that have trees.

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    I'll add some more tomorrow

    ukr1, 19.93,48.41,13.03,7.43,7.26,0,2.94,0.56,0,0,0.12,0 ,0.34

    ukr2,27.9,39.3,13.46,6.2,8.22,0,1.76,0,2.05,0.61,0 .47,0,0 QM7862534

    ukr3,26.84,34.9,15.12,5.03,15.08,0.34,0,0.87,0.41, 0.52,0.22,0.67,0 M464439

    ukr4,28.9,43.25,8.42,8.8,6.51,0.14,0.34,0,1.75,0.2 ,0.63,0.96,0.11

    ukr5,28.47,43.03,9.23,6.32,9.2,1.43,0,1.34,0,0.62, 0.07,0,0.3

    ukr6,30.63,39.95,12.74,6.87,3.94,1,1.72,1.02,0.75, 0.66,0,0.08,0.63

    ukr7,29.06,40.34,11.94,4.55,6.64,2.75,0,0.22,2.57, 0.93,0.85,0,0.15

    ukr8,29.83,42.15,13.28,8.56,2.62,0,0.92,0,0,1.88,0 .72,0,0.05

    ukr9,26.21,48.56,12.5,4.67,3.31,1.08,1.46,0,0.96,0 .97,0,0.28,0

    ukr10,29.05,43.2,12.41,5.55,4.75,0,2.1,0.47,1.59,0 .65,0,0.23,0

    ukr11,27.19,44.03,11.89,3.74,8.85,1.3,0.92,1.18,0. 27,0.28,0.36,0,0

    ukr12,26.49,43.46,12.06,5.44,8.21,0.44,0.4,1.26,0, 0.68,1.57,0,0

    ukr13,30.96,44.83,7.79,6.56,6.5,0,1.91,0,0.12,1,0, 0,0.32

    ukr14,26.4,43.64,10.08,6.53,6.87,0.81,2.33,0,2,0.9 4,0.4,0,0

    ukr15,23.26,46.76,13.26,6.19,6.02,0,0.54,0.98,0.19 ,2.19,0.01,0.6,0

    ukr16,25.16,48.4,10.46,5.76,6.72,0.31,0.13,0,1.59, 0,0.2,1.06,0.21

    ukr17,27.09,43.77,12.48,6.56,6.62,0.74,1.5,0.2,0,0 .38,0.66,0,0

    ukr18,27.39,43.92,12.22,4.61,8.24,0.06,0.47,0.54,0 ,1.37,0.35,0.82,0

    ukr19,22.44,49.58,10.56,5.25,8.52,0.89,0.29,0.65,1 .21,0,0,0.26,0.35


    Mykolaiv,22.19,43.66,12.21,8.53,5.94,0,2.26,0.01,3 .49,1.27,0.45,0,0

    Kyiv_oblast,30.34,45.39,9.78,4,5.3,2.01,0,0.58,0.4 6,0.99,0.71,0.45,0

    Poltava_oblast,21.99,42.55,11.61,10.13,7.6,0,0.05, 0,3.93,1.71,0.34,0.1,0

    Odesa_oblast_1,24.82,40.06,14.14,5.78,8.66,1.42,1. 15,0,1.83,0.97,0,0.65,0.49


    Odesa_oblast_2,25.21,40.00,10.23,6.74,11.15,2.47,0 .36,0.86,1.34,0.41,0.28,0,0.94

    angiesiveria,24.56,42.02,14,6.73,8.52,0,0.92,1.74, 0,5.57,0.6,0.33,0

    Kharkiv_1,20.68,41.66,8.38,11.62,12.97,0.57,0.46,1 .36,0.48,1.17,0.63,0,0

    Kharkiv_2,24.1,47.44,8.44,7.54,6.51,1.25,2.65,0.22 ,0.88,0.36,0.24,0.36,0

    Kharkiv_3,22.96,51.04,5.87,7.42,8.12,1.18,1.32,0,0 .77,0.86,0.08,0.39,0

    Kharkiv_4,26.82,44.99,11.5,5.18,5.86,0,3.54,0,1.05 ,0.28,0,0,0.78

    Kharkiv_5,25.25,49.28,9.52,5.43,5.88,0.74,0.7,0,1. 63,0.3,0,0,1.28

    Kharkiv_6,27.8,46.63,11.23,5.42,5.53,0,0,0,1.13,0. 93,0.17,1.17,0

    Kharkiv_7,22.77,45.63,9.73,7.04,10.41,0,1.46,1.64, 0.35,0.29,0,0.53,0.13

    Kharkiv_8,29.13,45.81,9.86,8.52,3.14,0,0.43,1.74,0 .15,0.47,0.75,0,0

    Kaniv/Kharkiv,27.26,44.33,11.57,1.51,9.11,0.95,0.92,0,1. 97,1,0,0.69,0.7

    Lviv, 24.74,41.16,16.83,10.74,3.71,0.41,1.1,0,0.1,0.9,0. 32,0,0

    Khmelnytska_oblast_Yarmolyntsi,29.11,36.54,13.52,5 .76,11.18,0,0,0,2.17,0.75,0,0,0.96

    Khmelnytska_oblast_Kamianets_Podilskii,25.33,38.58 ,13.26,7.47,9.85,1.84,0.45,0.32,2.37,0.34,0,0,0.2

    Chernivtsi, 22.53,36.68,12.45,11.12,13.45,0.92,0,0.37,1.3,1.01 ,0.17,0,0

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