Dodecad k12b West & Central Asian results Vol 4.

**Saba** · 01-29-2021, 03:31 AM

Iraqi Turkmen of the Bayat tribe from Kerkuk

Gedrosia 21.54 Pct
Siberian 2.23 Pct
Northwest_African 1.05 Pct
Southeast_Asian 1.53 Pct
Atlantic_Med 6.99 Pct
North_European 6.39 Pct
South_Asian 1.64 Pct
East_African 1.65 Pct
Southwest_Asian 14.4 Pct
East_Asian 0.54 Pct
Caucasus 42.04 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Target: bayat
Distance: 2.6298% / 2.62983743 | ADC: 0.5x RC
44.9 Iraq_Turkmen
23.3 Turk_East
20.8 Talysh_Azerbaijan
11.0 Udi_Azerbaijan

**Kyp** · 01-30-2021, 09:10 AM

Turk 50%Kars, 50% Erzurum:

Gedrosian: 19.59
Siberian: 1.16
Northwest_African: 0.56
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 11.11
North_European: 6.07
South_Asian: 3.46
East_African: 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 9.25
East_Asian: 1.17
Caucasian: 47.64
Sub_Saharan: 0.00

Distance to: KarsErzurum
4.77476701 Turk_East
5.42791857 Udi_Azerbaijan
6.58395018 Armenian_East
7.56545438 Turk_Ahiska
8.72753115 Armenian_West
8.85324234 Azerbaijani_Turkey
8.90708707 Zaza
8.95117311 Turk_East_Black_Sea
9.99971500 Talysh_Azerbaijan
10.30517346 Greek_Pontus
10.37258406 Turk_Central_East
10.40846290 Georgian
10.42914666 Hemshin
10.45160275 Azerbaijani_Iran
10.65171348 Kurd_Kurmanji
10.85522455 Azerbaijani
10.89105137 Azeri_Jew
11.00586207 Laz
11.03733664 Assyrian_North
11.15424583 Kurd_Adygea
11.32401872 Assyrian_West
11.39291008 Turk_Southeast
11.44091343 Assyrian_South
12.04826959 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
12.08019040 Georgian_Adjara

Target: KarsErzurum
Distance: 2.3856% / 2.38562146 | ADC: 0.5x RC
62.5 Turk_East
30.2 Georgian_Adjara
7.3 Bnei_Menashe_Jews

Turk 50% Kirikkale, 50% Hatay (The Hatay part is partly arab partly turk)

Gedrosian: 19.60
Siberian: 2.43
Northwest_African: 1.94
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 13.24
North_European: 9.02
South_Asian: 1.85
East_African: 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 13.94
East_Asian: 7.33
Caucasian: 30.64
Sub_Saharan: 0.00

Distance to: Hatay_Kirikkale
9.06689583 Turk_Southeast
9.56627409 Turk_South
9.75424523 Turk_Southwest
9.86059836 Turk_Central_West
9.98268000 Azerbaijani
11.04144465 Turk_Northwest
11.17869849 Turk_West_BlackSea
11.27313621 Azerbaijani_Iran
11.30764785 Turk_Central_East
11.62693855 Azerbaijani_Turkey
11.84099658 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
12.80276923 Iraq_Turkmen
13.32029279 Kurd_Kurmanji
13.63158098 Yazidi
13.73947233 Kurd_Sorani
13.80491217 Iraqi_Baghdad
13.86655328 Iran_Khorasan
14.32331316 Iranian_Fars
14.73924014 Turkmen_TM
14.85967698 Zaza
14.92516667 Turkmen_Iran
14.92900533 Kurd_Adygea
15.81595713 Iran_Arab
16.12642862 Talysh_Azerbaijan
16.25556520 Lebanese_Muslim

Target: Hatay_Kirikkale
Distance: 2.2886% / 2.28861461 | ADC: 0.25x RC
41.7 Yazidi
19.3 Turk_Southeast
15.0 Iraqi_Arab
12.4 Spanish_Asturias
5.0 Hazara
5.0 Japanese
1.6 Tajik_Mountain

**Mejgusu** · 01-30-2021, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by Kyp

Turk 50% Kirikkale, 50% Hatay (The Hatay part is partly arab partly turk)

Gedrosian: 19.60
Siberian: 2.43
Northwest_African: 1.94
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 13.24
North_European: 9.02
South_Asian: 1.85
East_African: 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 13.94
East_Asian: 7.33
Caucasian: 30.64
Sub_Saharan: 0.00

Target: Hatay_Kirikkale
Distance: 2.2886% / 2.28861461 | ADC: 0.25x RC
41.7 Yazidi
19.3 Turk_Southeast
15.0 Iraqi_Arab
12.4 Spanish_Asturias
5.0 Hazara
5.0 Japanese
1.6 Tajik_Mountain

I would like to see the Kirikkale side, if the Hatay side was 3-6% east eurasian the other side must be enormously Turkic influenced. As far i know there is not an average for this province and also never saw a sample from there.

**Kaazi** · 01-30-2021, 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by Saba

Iraqi Turkmen of the Bayat tribe from Kerkuk

Gedrosia 21.54 Pct
Siberian 2.23 Pct
Northwest_African 1.05 Pct
Southeast_Asian 1.53 Pct
Atlantic_Med 6.99 Pct
North_European 6.39 Pct
South_Asian 1.64 Pct
East_African 1.65 Pct
Southwest_Asian 14.4 Pct
East_Asian 0.54 Pct
Caucasus 42.04 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Target: bayat
Distance: 2.6298% / 2.62983743 | ADC: 0.5x RC
44.9 Iraq_Turkmen
23.3 Turk_East
20.8 Talysh_Azerbaijan
11.0 Udi_Azerbaijan

This sample looks almost pure West Asian. Aren't Turkic people supposed to have very high Mongoloid component?

**~~Altaylı~~** · 01-30-2021, 11:40 AM

Originally Posted by Kaazi

This sample looks almost pure West Asian. Aren't Turkic people supposed to have very high Mongoloid component?

He is Iraqi Turkmen not Turkmenistani or Afghanistan Turkmen

**Kaazi** · 01-30-2021, 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by Altaylı

He is Iraqi Turkmen not Turkmenistani or Afghanistan Turkmen

Thanks. Just curious, how much Mongoloid are typical Turks?

**~~Altaylı~~** · 01-30-2021, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by Kaazi

Thanks. Just curious, how much Mongoloid are typical Turks?

Turkish people 5-20%
Medieval Turkic 30-50%
Kazakhs and Kyrgyz 60-80%
Turkmens 15-50% mongoloid
Bashkirs 30-40% probably
Kazan Tatars 20-30%

**Fedora** · 01-30-2021, 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by Altaylı

Turkish people 5-20%
Medieval Turkic 30-50%
Kazakhs and Kyrgyz 60-80%
Turkmens 15-50% mongoloid
Bashkirs 30-40% probably
Kazan Tatars 20-30%

Turkish 0-20%**,
Medieval Turkic 20%-75%** There are Orkhun sampes who score 75% eurasian.

**Leto** · 01-30-2021, 02:00 PM

Originally Posted by Altaylı

Turkish people 5-20%
Medieval Turkic 30-50%
Kazakhs and Kyrgyz 60-80%
Turkmens 15-50% mongoloid
Bashkirs 30-40% probably
Kazan Tatars 20-30%

Kazan Tatars are 15-25%, most would range from 18 to 22%. Also Kazakhs are 57-65%, not anywhere near 80%. Some Kyrgyz can reach 70% East Eurasian but that's again above the average.

**Kyp** · 01-31-2021, 08:26 AM

Two Republic Azerbaijanis:

From Tartar (possible significant Kurdish ancestry):

Gedrosian: 22.47
Siberian: 2.87
Northwest_African: 0.49
Southeast_Asian: 0.24
Atlantic_Med: 8.04
North_European: 6.38
South_Asian: 2.22
East_African: 0.18
Southwest_Asian: 14.31
East_Asian: 2.58
Caucasian: 40.22
Sub_Saharan: 0.00

Distance to: Azerbaijani_Tartar
3.22082288 Azerbaijani_Iran
3.27577472 Kurd_Kurmanji
3.70033782 Zaza
4.14957829 Iraq_Turkmen
4.56040568 Kurd_Adygea
4.56396757 Azerbaijani_Turkey
4.57508470 Azerbaijani
4.82810522 Kurd_Sorani
5.05747961 Yazidi
5.10094109 Talysh_Azerbaijan
6.16056004 Turk_Southeast
6.85989067 Lur_Iran
7.55123831 Iranian
7.82202020 Iran_Central
7.82269774 Udi_Azerbaijan
8.17030599 Turk_East
9.06843426 Iraqi_Baghdad
9.10364762 Turk_Central_East
9.14025164 Iranian_Fars
10.18570076 Turk_South
10.52019011 Mandean
10.63896142 Azeri_Jew
10.75531032 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
10.94466080 Iranian_Jew
11.33884915 Assyrian_North

Target: Azerbaijani_Tartar
Distance: 1.4996% / 1.49961963 | ADC: 0.5x RC
61.1 Azerbaijani_Iran
14.7 Zaza
14.2 Azeri_Jew
10.0 Iraq_Turkmen

From Barda:

Gedrosian: 21.35
Siberian: 2.40
Northwest_African: 0.86
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 12.27
North_European: 8.13
South_Asian: 2.51
East_African: 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 10.68
East_Asian: 4.07
Caucasian: 37.72
Sub_Saharan: 0.00

Distance to: Azerbaijnai_Barda
3.90349843 Azerbaijani
4.29270311 Azerbaijani_Turkey
4.87319197 Azerbaijani_Iran
4.88034835 Turk_Southeast
6.63679893 Turk_Central_East
7.11613659 Kurd_Kurmanji
7.21307147 Turk_South
7.86825266 Zaza
7.88655818 Turk_Central_West
8.14691353 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
8.21946470 Yazidi
8.74066359 Kurd_Adygea
8.78624493 Iraq_Turkmen
9.16665152 Talysh_Azerbaijan
9.24596669 Kurd_Sorani
9.50641888 Turk_East
10.05710197 Turk_Southwest
10.07097314 Udi_Azerbaijan
10.08394268 Turk_West_BlackSea
10.11577481 Iran_Central
11.26704930 Lur_Iran
11.36994723 Iranian
11.46092056 Iranian_Fars
11.89655833 Iran_Khorasan
12.37278061 Azerbaijani_Dagestan

Target: Azerbaijnai_Barda
Distance: 1.4447% / 1.44466606 | ADC: 0.25x RC
64.0 Azerbaijani_Turkey
21.7 Yazidi
6.5 Iran_Khorasan
4.4 Sardinian
2.0 Spanish_Basque
1.3 Japanese
0.1 Hazara