Serbian Autosomal DNA

[Dušan]

from Vojvodina

North_Atlantic	Baltic	West_Med	West_Asian	East_Med	Red_Sea	South_Asian	East_Asian	Siberian	Amerindian	Oceanian	Northeast_Afr	Sub0Saharan
26.35	23.93	19.28	9.2	16.51	1.17	2.64	0.93	0	0.00	0.00	0.00	0.00
29.15	24.38	18.11	5.65	17.03	2.89	0.63	0	1.73	0.31	0	0.11	0
21.75	25.45	16.87	13.04	17.59	1.18	1.56	0.7	0.56	0.31	0.22	0.14	0.63
25.88	27.57	18.12	7.9	17.73	1.24	0.17	0	0.08	1.3	0	0	0
20.25	28.47	17.62	8.98	20.51	2.74	0	0	0.48	0.76	0.12	0	0.07
20.85	29.26	14	13.95	17.61	1.36	0	0.72	0.85	0.42	0.16	0	0.83

all ancestry from the Čačak area

All in southern half of Serbian autosomal range.

[Dušan]

These Vojvodina Serbs are in line with Milenko. Basically southern Serbian results that reflect what we know of their origin from historical sources.

I have to say it's really sad that even some ethnic Serbs took the Croatian bait and believe that those from Vojvodina are 'pure' Serbs while southerners like the ones in Niš and Leskovac are just a bunch mutts.
Fact is that if we discount Srem there's just as many Gypsies in Vojovodina as in the south and plenty more individuals mix with them.

All Serbs are Serbs, there are no "pure" and "non-pure" because of regional origin.

BTW there are Gypsies in Srem, too. I don't understand why are you mentioning them in this topic?

[CommonSense]

All Serbs are Serbs, there are no "pure" and "non-pure" because of regional origin.

BTW there are Gypsies in Srem, too. I don't understand why are you mentioning them in this topic?

Why am I mentioning them? Haven't you seen a bunch of internet comments in the lines of 'white Serbs live in Vojvodina, those from the south are mixed with Gypsies and Turks'!? People comparing Vojvodinians to Croats in pigmentation, etc. Just a bunch of dumb stereotypes really. I'm trying to say that most Serbs from municipalities south of the Danube and Sava rivers have more Slavic DNA than native Vojovdina Serbs and less individuals with exotic admixture.

[MINARDOWICZ]

I am not Serbian but I only missed the sample by A LITTLE. I am not Baltic enough and too North Atlantic... SO CLOSE!

1 North_Atlantic 33.18
2 Baltic 21.21
3 West_Med 17.12
4 East_Med 15.96
5 West_Asian 7.8
6 Red_Sea 2.86
7 Amerindian 0.84
8 South_Asian 0.58
9 Sub-Saharan 0.33
10 Oceanian 0.06
11 Northeast_African 0.05

[MandM]

These Vojvodina Serbs are in line with Milenko. Basically southern Serbian results that reflect what we know of their origin from historical sources.

I have to say it's really sad that even some ethnic Serbs took the Croatian bait and believe that those from Vojvodina are 'pure' Serbs while southerners like the ones in Niš and Leskovac are just a bunch mutts.
Fact is that if we discount Srem there's just as many Gypsies in Vojovodina as in the south and plenty more individuals mix with them.

correect me if i am wrong, but are you saying that I and other from Vojvodina are mixed with Exotic elements??? and does from the south are more "Slavic"

[CommonSense]

correect me if i am wrong, but are you saying that I and other from Vojvodina are mixed with Exotic elements??? and does from the south are more "Slavic"

Not you, obviously, but on average in Vojvodina you will find more people who have exotic admixture but identify as Serbs. And, yes, Serbs from most areas south of the two rivers are somewhat more Slavic, you're about the same as Serbian Torlakian speakers.

[Dušan]

Why am I mentioning them? Haven't you seen a bunch of internet comments in the lines of 'white Serbs live in Vojvodina, those from the south are mixed with Gypsies and Turks'!? People comparing Vojvodinians to Croats in pigmentation, etc. Just a bunch of dumb stereotypes really. I'm trying to say that most Serbs from municipalities south of the Danube and Sava rivers have more Slavic DNA than native Vojovdina Serbs and less individuals with exotic admixture.

These are stupid malicious comments of Croatian trolls, I dont pay attention on that.

Tiny regional difference is more east-west, than north-south, as Krajina and Bosnian Serbs have bit more Slavic share. But that difference will be less and less in next generations, since high rate of marriages of Serbs from different regions.

I dont see any exotic in Vojvodina Serb, neither southern Serbian results.
I am in same line as Milenko and these other two Vojvodina Serbs, only a bit northern shifted.

[CommonSense]

These are stupid malicious comments of Croatian trolls, I dont pay attention on that.

Tiny regional difference is more east-west, than north-south, as Krajina and Bosnian Serbs have bit more Slavic share. But that difference will be less and less in next generations, since high rate of marriages of Serbs from different regions.

I dont see any exotic in Vojvodina Serb, neither southern Serbian results.
I am in same line as Milenko and these other two Vojvodina Serbs, only a bit northern shifted.

But some Serbs have bought into it, that's the problem. There's a Danish guy who toured most of the countries in Europe and the surrondings in the past few monhts and made a video comparing Serbia and Croatia. He had to reupload it, but the original one had a LOT of comments. Some Serbs wrote a bunch of bullshit how our country has great regional differences, that people from Vojvodina tend to be hardly any different from Croats, while those from the south have darker skin and hair.
Like you I am indifferent to Croats and Bosniaks saying stuff like that, but it really pisses me off to see it come from one of my own people.

[CommonSense]

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[Varda]

But some Serbs have bought into it, that's the problem. There's a Danish guy who toured most of the countries in Europe and the surrondings in the past few monhts and made a video comparing Serbia and Croatia. He had to reupload it, but the original one had a LOT of comments. Some Serbs wrote a bunch of bullshit how our country has great regional differences, that people from Vojvodina tend to be hardly any different from Croats, while those from the south have darker skin and hair.
Like you I am indifferent to Croats and Bosniaks saying stuff like that, but it really pisses me off to see it come from one of my own people.

Among Serbs exist some idiots who say that southern Serbs are Turkish influenced, serbified Bulgarians or mixed with Bulgarians. Those are nonsenses, and should not pay attention to it.

It's not surprise the fact that some native Vojvodinian Serbs are more southern than Serbian average and in the level of southern Serbs. Because large part of native Vojvodinian Serbs are descendants of settlers from Kosovo and SE Serbia (migrations from 16th to 18th century), especially in Banat. I thinks native Serbs of Vojvodina are pretty diverse, because of their deeper origin from various regions from Kumanovo to the Bela Krajina.
I know few examples of native Vojvodinian Serbs who are more northern than Serbian average. For example Delija from Poreklo who is half Banat half Syrmian Serb is significant more northern than current Serbian average.