Dodecad k12b West & Central Asian results Vol 4.

**Leto** · 02-02-2021, 08:54 PM

Originally Posted by Sterling Archer

Super interesting, looking forward for the new thread!

The thread already exists

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...ighlight=Azeri

By the way, hopefully there will be Kumyk and Lezgin samples from Lazaridis in the coming days.

**Sterling Archer** · 02-02-2021, 08:59 PM

Thanks!
I see that it has been quite there for some time.

**Kyp** · 02-02-2021, 10:27 PM

Another one from Teheran:

Gedrosian: 25.33
Siberian: 2.20
Northwest_African: 1.48
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 5.68
North_European: 7.10
South_Asian: 5.99
East_African: 0.22
Southwest_Asian: 11.22
East_Asian: 3.07
Caucasian: 37.71
Sub_Saharan: 0.00

Distance to: Teheran2
4.11049875 Iran_Central
5.38196990 Iranian_Fars
5.68717856 Talysh_Azerbaijan
5.74337009 Azerbaijani_Iran
5.90134730 Yazidi
6.02076407 Iranian
6.32764569 Kurd_Adygea
6.35651634 Kurd_Kurmanji
6.42478793 Lur_Iran
6.60642112 Kurd_Sorani
7.09343358 Iran_Khorasan
7.11912916 Azerbaijani
7.40254010 Iraq_Turkmen
7.58963108 Zaza
7.60937580 Iran_C_East
7.76972329 Azerbaijani_Turkey
9.49064803 Iran_Mazandaran
10.19531755 Turk_Southeast
11.49301527 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
11.82638575 Udi_Azerbaijan
13.01466481 Iraqi_Baghdad
13.04963218 Turk_East
13.10840189 Turk_Central_East
13.15155124 Turk_South
14.16537680 Turk_Central_Black_Sea

Target: Teheran2
Distance: 0.9672% / 0.96721327 | ADC: 0.25x RC
70.7 Talysh_Azerbaijan
11.9 Iranian_Fars
9.5 Iran_Khorasan
2.6 Brahmins_from_Uttaranchal
2.2 Turkmen_TM
1.7 Nivh
1.4 Pulliyar

**Dr_Maul** · 02-03-2021, 01:32 PM

I believe the following individual is around half Caucasus half Slavic

Gedrosia 11.91 Pct
Siberian 0.5 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.17 Pct
Atlantic_Med 15.95 Pct
North_European 33.37 Pct
South_Asian 1.6 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 4.54 Pct
East_Asian 1.3 Pct
Caucasus 30.66 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Target: Osfy
Distance: 2.1407% / 2.14065293 | R2P
58.6 Bosnian
41.4 Kumyks

Target: Osfy
Distance: 1.6368% / 1.63678361 | R3P
47.8 PL_Mazovia
27.5 Tsakhur_Azerbaijan
24.7 Greek_Pontus

Target: Osfy
Distance: 2.4653% / 2.46528664 | ADC: 0.25x RC
55.4 Pomak_Greece
35.7 Kaitag_Dagestan
8.9 Russian_Kursk

I also have this kit which is some sort of Russian-Chuvash hybrid or something
H416498

**Dr_Maul** · 02-03-2021, 04:02 PM

10 Armenian kits, not sure if any were posted here before. A couple are "southern" shifted towards Assyrians and Jews

QM5373323
T763751
T632601
T699065
T331231
UP6275953
CB8344895
YS7258526
T170278
NB1556601

**harutsafaryan07** · 02-03-2021, 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by Dr_Maul

UP6275953
CB8344895

it is Look most as Hemshin

Отправлено с моего DLI-TL20 через Tapatalk

**harutsafaryan07** · 02-03-2021, 04:37 PM

@Dr_Maul

for Armenians who have ancestors from SE Turkey as Gaziantep or Diyarbakır
has a shift towards the Assyrians

Отправлено с моего DLI-TL20 через Tapatalk

**Sterling Archer** · 02-03-2021, 04:39 PM

Originally Posted by harutsafaryan07

it is Look most as Hemshin

Отправлено с моего DLI-TL20 через Tapatalk

Are Hemshin considered Armenian? Wikipedia says so, but their results are quit different.
Autosomally they are very close to Laz and Pontic Greeks rather than the Armenians.

**Leto** · 02-03-2021, 04:50 PM

Originally Posted by Dr_Maul

I also have this kit which is some sort of Russian-Chuvash hybrid or something
H416498

More like a full Chuvash, just less East Eurasian than the average

Gedrosia 5.63 Pct
Siberian 17.65 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 13.9 Pct
North_European 47.99 Pct
South_Asian 2 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian -
East_Asian 4.78 Pct
Caucasus 8.05 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: A.
4.38778988 Chuvash
6.22152714 Komi
7.18149706 Besermyan_Udmurtia
8.70155733 Bashkir_North
8.80459539 Mari
8.88229700 Tatar_Mishar
9.29016684 Tatar_Kazan
9.48962065 Udmurt
12.57747987 Russian_Ural
13.62897282 Bashkir_Central

Target: A.
Distance: 1.5276% / 1.52762146 | ADC: 0.25x RC
48.0 Chuvash
40.9 Russian_Ural
6.2 Dolgan
4.9 Ukrainian_Ivano-Frankivsk

Target: A.
Distance: 2.5139% / 2.51385893 | ADC: 0.5x RC
75.8 Chuvash
21.0 Russian_Ural
3.2 Tatar_Mishar

**harutsafaryan07** · 02-03-2021, 05:27 PM

Originally Posted by Sterling Archer

Are Hemshin considered Armenian? Wikipedia says so, but their results are quit different.
Autosomally they are very close to Laz and Pontic Greeks rather than the Armenians.

in fact Hemshin is 8th сentury, the Armenian princes Hamam and Shapuh Amatuni, who lost their domains in Vaspurakan (Van) to Arabs, moved to the Byzantine Empire with 12,000 of their people.They given the town of Rize btw also unlike of Turkey Hemshin Hemshin from southern Russia and Abkhazia Are Christians Hemshin are different because they have influences from Laz and Pontic Greeks