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    Early bronze age serbian samples from Mokrin necropolis (Vojvodina)


    Code:
    SRB_Mokrin_EBA:MOK9B,0.119514,0.141159,0.049403,0.008721,0.036007,0.004741,-0.004465,0.001154,0.015339,0.018224,-0.00341,-0.001798,-0.0055,0.007019,-0.002714,-0.006232,-0.009779,0.006714,0.002137,0.00075,-0.004243,0.002844,-0.00912,-0.005422,-0.003832
    SRB_Mokrin_EBA:MOK10B,0.121791,0.149283,0.035449,0.007429,0.038469,0.005857,-0.007285,0.004384,0.019839,0.017859,-0.002761,0.005845,-0.01219,-0.006055,0.00095,-0.003713,0.004824,-0.000507,0.009176,-0.00075,-0.000749,0.00371,-0.002958,0.004579,-0.000958
    SRB_Mokrin_EBA:MOK12,0.129758,0.145221,0.05242,0.01292,0.052933,-0.008367,-0.00047,-0.002538,0.012476,0.023508,0.002598,0.009741,-0.005946,-0.003716,-0.017101,-0.001193,0.014081,-0.001647,0.002388,-0.003752,0.000873,0.000742,-0.004067,-0.017352,-0.007305
    SRB_Mokrin_EBA:MOK13,0.121791,0.153345,0.039975,0.000646,0.040623,-0.011435,0.000235,0.001846,0.01493,0.032074,0.003735,0.009292,-0.011001,-0.005918,-0.010722,0.0118,0.022165,0.004307,0.007668,0.003877,-0.004243,0.002968,-0.001725,-0.005422,0.000958
    SRB_Mokrin_EBA:MOK14,0.125205,0.144205,0.049403,0.017442,0.03693,0.001116,-0.00047,-0.001615,0.014521,0.013485,0.008931,0.004946,-0.011298,-0.001514,-0.001357,0.001326,0.004694,0.006461,0.010307,0.002376,-0.004243,0.006059,-0.007272,0.003735,-0.00479
    SRB_Mokrin_EBA:MOK15,0.121791,0.152329,0.046009,0.012597,0.047393,-0.000837,0.011751,0.002769,0.016362,0.023508,-0.000974,0.00015,-0.007582,0.000688,-0.004343,-0.009944,-0.014342,-0.006461,0.001006,-0.000875,0.000374,-0.000124,-0.007765,-0.013737,-0.003113
    SRB_Mokrin_EBA:MOK16A,0.126344,0.153345,0.053551,0.027455,0.052933,0.001116,0.00799,0.005077,0.008999,0.019681,-0.004384,0.006744,-0.005203,0.007569,-0.005293,-0.013259,-0.012126,0.00038,0.006034,-0.000125,-0.001872,0.001855,-0.007518,-0.011327,0.003473
    SRB_Mokrin_EBA:MOK17A,0.114961,0.149283,0.020742,-0.007752,0.035083,-0.002231,0.00658,-0.000231,0.012885,0.025513,0.000325,0.005995,-0.021704,-0.005367,-0.016422,-0.012994,0.005476,0.006588,0.006034,-0.001,0.007362,0.000989,0.001479,-0.002892,-0.003353
    SRB_Mokrin_EBA:MOK19A,0.126344,0.139128,0.067127,0.036176,0.055395,0.009482,0.002115,0.006923,0.016975,0.015126,-0.000325,-0.001948,0.000743,0.010597,-0.010722,0.02254,0.020861,0.001014,-0.00352,0.004377,0.0141,-0.004575,-0.003821,-0.025787,0.001676
    SRB_Mokrin_EBA:MOK20,0.125205,0.153345,0.035449,0.011305,0.039084,0.004741,0.00329,-0.004846,0.013908,0.020775,0.006008,0.000899,-0.013528,-0.009496,-0.013029,0.007027,0.022296,-0.004941,-0.004274,0.002501,0.001996,0.004575,-0.00456,0.002651,0.00467
    SRB_Mokrin_EBA:MOK21A,0.133173,0.141159,0.076555,0.048127,0.051702,0.005857,0.002115,0.004615,0.016362,0.006196,-0.001786,-0.005995,0.005649,0.016102,-0.005429,-0.005967,0.000522,0.005828,0.003142,-0.002376,0.008235,0.007419,-0.004067,-0.023859,-0.002515
    SRB_Mokrin_EBA:MOK22,0.127482,0.14319,0.075047,0.042959,0.06832,0.012271,-0.00329,0.004384,0.023725,0.014214,-0.003248,0.001649,0.008028,0.011285,-0.017236,0.001458,0.01369,-0.00038,-0.00264,-0.001626,0.012977,0.004946,-0.008504,-0.030125,-0.002275
    SRB_Mokrin_EBA:MOK23,0.127482,0.13405,0.084852,0.041344,0.060011,0.023985,0.000705,0.007384,0.022907,0.008383,-0.00341,-0.012589,0.007136,0.013074,-0.006922,-0.012066,-0.009909,-0.004181,-0.003017,0.001751,0.006364,0.004204,-0.008011,-0.028438,-0.000958
    SRB_Mokrin_EBA:MOK24A,0.126344,0.146236,0.048649,0.018411,0.048932,0.007251,0.002115,0.005769,0.019839,0.017495,0.002761,0.006145,-0.013379,0,0.002986,-0.012066,-0.0103,0.007348,0.007165,-0.001626,0.00025,0.004946,0.000739,-0.003856,-0.001676
    SRB_Mokrin_EBA:MOK25A,0.125205,0.147252,0.054682,0.010982,0.052933,0.001673,-0.00235,0.005769,0.011453,0.024237,-0.001624,0.003447,-0.01219,-0.000963,-0.003122,-0.002519,-0.001565,0.002154,0.005782,0.00025,-0.003619,0.002968,-0.007518,-0.002892,-0.010059
    SRB_Mokrin_EBA:MOK26A,0.126344,0.144205,0.037712,0.001292,0.044624,0.001394,0.007285,0.006231,0.005318,0.019499,0.003248,0,-0.00996,-0.007844,-0.010179,0.013657,0.021905,0.009755,0.003017,-0.003877,-0.00262,0.00779,-0.000246,-0.001687,0.000239
    SRB_Mokrin_EBA:MOK27,0.118376,0.151314,0.047517,0.004845,0.040007,-0.003626,0.005405,0.003923,0.009613,0.026606,0.006171,0.005395,-0.01115,-0.00578,-0.015472,-0.00716,0.017471,0.003041,0.009302,-0.007879,-0.00262,0.004946,-0.006532,-0.003856,-0.005269
    SRB_Mokrin_EBA:MOK28A,0.132035,0.141159,0.066373,0.047481,0.056626,0.009203,0.00188,0.013384,0.010022,0.010023,-0.002436,-0.002847,0.005352,0.015001,-0.007465,-0.001458,0.000522,-0.005701,-0.001383,0.000625,-0.001123,-0.002597,0.00493,-0.017352,-0.00958
    SRB_Mokrin_EBA:MOK29A,0.126344,0.144205,0.046009,0.007752,0.040315,0.003904,0.00282,0.008769,0.008385,0.027335,-0.002761,0.010191,-0.014717,-0.003853,-0.001493,-0.004641,-0.008084,-0.000253,0.002514,-0.004627,-0.00574,0.01014,0.000246,-0.002289,-0.007903
    SRB_Mokrin_EBA:MOK30,0.132035,0.140143,0.065242,0.040052,0.056626,0.011156,0.000235,0.01823,0.016362,0.019499,-0.004872,0.002548,0.002081,0.001514,-0.014386,0.012861,0.008084,0.00266,0.001006,0.008879,0.004243,0.00643,-0.010476,-0.024823,-0.002874
    SRB_Mokrin_EBA:MOK31,0.124067,0.147252,0.033564,-0.010982,0.041854,-0.013108,-0.000235,0.007846,0.018816,0.03262,0.008607,0.01139,-0.013082,-0.003853,-0.013708,-0.007558,-0.002608,0.004434,0.006662,-0.008879,-0.00574,0.017559,-0.006162,0.003374,-0.001916
    SRB_Mokrin_EBA:MOK32,0.129758,0.14319,0.048271,0.011305,0.03416,-0.003347,0.00329,0.001154,0.012476,0.019864,0.005196,-0.001948,-0.010258,-0.009083,-0.000679,-0.008751,-0.008996,0.004814,0.006913,0.004377,-0.001747,0.008779,-0.010106,0.00253,-0.00455
    SRB_Mokrin_EBA:MOK33,0.127482,0.155376,0.053174,0.011628,0.047701,0.00251,-0.00094,0.003461,0.010226,0.024602,0.006008,-0.004496,-0.003122,0.005092,-0.007193,-0.018828,-0.008214,0.005701,0.006411,0.005503,-0.005241,0.000247,-0.00986,-0.015424,-0.004311

    Source: Anthrogenica, user Ajeje Brazorf
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    Do you have K13 for these samples?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dušan View Post
    Do you have K13 for these samples?
    Nope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andre View Post
    Early bronze age serbian samples from Mokrin necropolis (Vojvodina)


    Code:
    SRB_Mokrin_EBA:MOK9B,0.119514,0.141159,0.049403,0.008721,0.036007,0.004741,-0.004465,0.001154,0.015339,0.018224,-0.00341,-0.001798,-0.0055,0.007019,-0.002714,-0.006232,-0.009779,0.006714,0.002137,0.00075,-0.004243,0.002844,-0.00912,-0.005422,-0.003832
    SRB_Mokrin_EBA:MOK10B,0.121791,0.149283,0.035449,0.007429,0.038469,0.005857,-0.007285,0.004384,0.019839,0.017859,-0.002761,0.005845,-0.01219,-0.006055,0.00095,-0.003713,0.004824,-0.000507,0.009176,-0.00075,-0.000749,0.00371,-0.002958,0.004579,-0.000958
    SRB_Mokrin_EBA:MOK12,0.129758,0.145221,0.05242,0.01292,0.052933,-0.008367,-0.00047,-0.002538,0.012476,0.023508,0.002598,0.009741,-0.005946,-0.003716,-0.017101,-0.001193,0.014081,-0.001647,0.002388,-0.003752,0.000873,0.000742,-0.004067,-0.017352,-0.007305
    SRB_Mokrin_EBA:MOK13,0.121791,0.153345,0.039975,0.000646,0.040623,-0.011435,0.000235,0.001846,0.01493,0.032074,0.003735,0.009292,-0.011001,-0.005918,-0.010722,0.0118,0.022165,0.004307,0.007668,0.003877,-0.004243,0.002968,-0.001725,-0.005422,0.000958
    SRB_Mokrin_EBA:MOK14,0.125205,0.144205,0.049403,0.017442,0.03693,0.001116,-0.00047,-0.001615,0.014521,0.013485,0.008931,0.004946,-0.011298,-0.001514,-0.001357,0.001326,0.004694,0.006461,0.010307,0.002376,-0.004243,0.006059,-0.007272,0.003735,-0.00479
    SRB_Mokrin_EBA:MOK15,0.121791,0.152329,0.046009,0.012597,0.047393,-0.000837,0.011751,0.002769,0.016362,0.023508,-0.000974,0.00015,-0.007582,0.000688,-0.004343,-0.009944,-0.014342,-0.006461,0.001006,-0.000875,0.000374,-0.000124,-0.007765,-0.013737,-0.003113
    SRB_Mokrin_EBA:MOK16A,0.126344,0.153345,0.053551,0.027455,0.052933,0.001116,0.00799,0.005077,0.008999,0.019681,-0.004384,0.006744,-0.005203,0.007569,-0.005293,-0.013259,-0.012126,0.00038,0.006034,-0.000125,-0.001872,0.001855,-0.007518,-0.011327,0.003473
    SRB_Mokrin_EBA:MOK17A,0.114961,0.149283,0.020742,-0.007752,0.035083,-0.002231,0.00658,-0.000231,0.012885,0.025513,0.000325,0.005995,-0.021704,-0.005367,-0.016422,-0.012994,0.005476,0.006588,0.006034,-0.001,0.007362,0.000989,0.001479,-0.002892,-0.003353
    SRB_Mokrin_EBA:MOK19A,0.126344,0.139128,0.067127,0.036176,0.055395,0.009482,0.002115,0.006923,0.016975,0.015126,-0.000325,-0.001948,0.000743,0.010597,-0.010722,0.02254,0.020861,0.001014,-0.00352,0.004377,0.0141,-0.004575,-0.003821,-0.025787,0.001676
    SRB_Mokrin_EBA:MOK20,0.125205,0.153345,0.035449,0.011305,0.039084,0.004741,0.00329,-0.004846,0.013908,0.020775,0.006008,0.000899,-0.013528,-0.009496,-0.013029,0.007027,0.022296,-0.004941,-0.004274,0.002501,0.001996,0.004575,-0.00456,0.002651,0.00467
    SRB_Mokrin_EBA:MOK21A,0.133173,0.141159,0.076555,0.048127,0.051702,0.005857,0.002115,0.004615,0.016362,0.006196,-0.001786,-0.005995,0.005649,0.016102,-0.005429,-0.005967,0.000522,0.005828,0.003142,-0.002376,0.008235,0.007419,-0.004067,-0.023859,-0.002515
    SRB_Mokrin_EBA:MOK22,0.127482,0.14319,0.075047,0.042959,0.06832,0.012271,-0.00329,0.004384,0.023725,0.014214,-0.003248,0.001649,0.008028,0.011285,-0.017236,0.001458,0.01369,-0.00038,-0.00264,-0.001626,0.012977,0.004946,-0.008504,-0.030125,-0.002275
    SRB_Mokrin_EBA:MOK23,0.127482,0.13405,0.084852,0.041344,0.060011,0.023985,0.000705,0.007384,0.022907,0.008383,-0.00341,-0.012589,0.007136,0.013074,-0.006922,-0.012066,-0.009909,-0.004181,-0.003017,0.001751,0.006364,0.004204,-0.008011,-0.028438,-0.000958
    SRB_Mokrin_EBA:MOK24A,0.126344,0.146236,0.048649,0.018411,0.048932,0.007251,0.002115,0.005769,0.019839,0.017495,0.002761,0.006145,-0.013379,0,0.002986,-0.012066,-0.0103,0.007348,0.007165,-0.001626,0.00025,0.004946,0.000739,-0.003856,-0.001676
    SRB_Mokrin_EBA:MOK25A,0.125205,0.147252,0.054682,0.010982,0.052933,0.001673,-0.00235,0.005769,0.011453,0.024237,-0.001624,0.003447,-0.01219,-0.000963,-0.003122,-0.002519,-0.001565,0.002154,0.005782,0.00025,-0.003619,0.002968,-0.007518,-0.002892,-0.010059
    SRB_Mokrin_EBA:MOK26A,0.126344,0.144205,0.037712,0.001292,0.044624,0.001394,0.007285,0.006231,0.005318,0.019499,0.003248,0,-0.00996,-0.007844,-0.010179,0.013657,0.021905,0.009755,0.003017,-0.003877,-0.00262,0.00779,-0.000246,-0.001687,0.000239
    SRB_Mokrin_EBA:MOK27,0.118376,0.151314,0.047517,0.004845,0.040007,-0.003626,0.005405,0.003923,0.009613,0.026606,0.006171,0.005395,-0.01115,-0.00578,-0.015472,-0.00716,0.017471,0.003041,0.009302,-0.007879,-0.00262,0.004946,-0.006532,-0.003856,-0.005269
    SRB_Mokrin_EBA:MOK28A,0.132035,0.141159,0.066373,0.047481,0.056626,0.009203,0.00188,0.013384,0.010022,0.010023,-0.002436,-0.002847,0.005352,0.015001,-0.007465,-0.001458,0.000522,-0.005701,-0.001383,0.000625,-0.001123,-0.002597,0.00493,-0.017352,-0.00958
    SRB_Mokrin_EBA:MOK29A,0.126344,0.144205,0.046009,0.007752,0.040315,0.003904,0.00282,0.008769,0.008385,0.027335,-0.002761,0.010191,-0.014717,-0.003853,-0.001493,-0.004641,-0.008084,-0.000253,0.002514,-0.004627,-0.00574,0.01014,0.000246,-0.002289,-0.007903
    SRB_Mokrin_EBA:MOK30,0.132035,0.140143,0.065242,0.040052,0.056626,0.011156,0.000235,0.01823,0.016362,0.019499,-0.004872,0.002548,0.002081,0.001514,-0.014386,0.012861,0.008084,0.00266,0.001006,0.008879,0.004243,0.00643,-0.010476,-0.024823,-0.002874
    SRB_Mokrin_EBA:MOK31,0.124067,0.147252,0.033564,-0.010982,0.041854,-0.013108,-0.000235,0.007846,0.018816,0.03262,0.008607,0.01139,-0.013082,-0.003853,-0.013708,-0.007558,-0.002608,0.004434,0.006662,-0.008879,-0.00574,0.017559,-0.006162,0.003374,-0.001916
    SRB_Mokrin_EBA:MOK32,0.129758,0.14319,0.048271,0.011305,0.03416,-0.003347,0.00329,0.001154,0.012476,0.019864,0.005196,-0.001948,-0.010258,-0.009083,-0.000679,-0.008751,-0.008996,0.004814,0.006913,0.004377,-0.001747,0.008779,-0.010106,0.00253,-0.00455
    SRB_Mokrin_EBA:MOK33,0.127482,0.155376,0.053174,0.011628,0.047701,0.00251,-0.00094,0.003461,0.010226,0.024602,0.006008,-0.004496,-0.003122,0.005092,-0.007193,-0.018828,-0.008214,0.005701,0.006411,0.005503,-0.005241,0.000247,-0.00986,-0.015424,-0.004311

    Source: Anthrogenica, user Ajeje Brazorf
    interesting.



    they are steppe + neolithic, but the WHG is clearly increased too.

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    They are aprox. 50% EEF, 30% YAMNAYA,20% WHG. Like modern spanish and southern french.

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    They are in last Reich dataset?

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    Based on this they should be similar to Illyrians (IA/BA age samples from Croatia and few Panonnian samples from Hungary)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by andre View Post
    Early bronze age serbian samples from Mokrin necropolis (Vojvodina)

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    There are scaled? Seems mainly continental Celtic-like, but some look Slavic-like admixed ( I know it is Bronze Age but still).

    Distance to: SRB_Mokrin_EBA:MOK33
    0.04383642 Spanish_Barcelones
    0.04427506 French_Auvergne
    0.04519945 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige

    Distance to: SRB_Mokrin_EBA:MOK32
    0.02780500 French_Auvergne
    0.02930295 Swiss_German
    0.02966354 French_Occitanie

    Distance to: SRB_Mokrin_EBA:MOK31
    0.03016588 Italian_Bergamo
    0.03127560 Italian_Lombardy
    0.03262793 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige

    Distance to: SRB_Mokrin_EBA:MOK30
    0.05321759 Austrian
    0.05539807 Slovenian
    0.05586501 German

    Distance to: SRB_Mokrin_EBA:MOK29A
    0.02448772 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
    0.02450769 French_Auvergne
    0.02679853 French_Provence

    Distance to: SRB_Mokrin_EBA:MOK28A
    0.03958505 German_East
    0.04102156 Slovenian
    0.04146324 Czech

    Distance to: SRB_Mokrin_EBA:MOK27
    0.03289864 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
    0.03348963 Italian_Northeast
    0.03449671 Italian_Veneto

    Distance to: SRB_Mokrin_EBA:MOK26A
    0.03095074 Italian_Northeast
    0.03205367 Macedonian:East1
    0.03246767 Italian_Veneto

    Distance to: SRB_Mokrin_EBA:MOK25A
    0.02495149 French_Auvergne
    0.02744129 French_Occitanie
    0.02896858 Spanish_Barcelones

    Distance to: SRB_Mokrin_EBA:MOK24A
    0.02566204 French_Auvergne
    0.02621223 French_Occitanie
    0.02762347 Swiss_German

    Distance to: SRB_Mokrin_EBA:MOK23
    0.05796493 German_East
    0.05856769 Ukrainian_B
    0.06007786 Czech

    Distance to: SRB_Mokrin_EBA:MOK22
    0.06479977 Slovenian
    0.06639147 Sorb_Niederlausitz
    0.06653669 German_East

    Distance to: SRB_Mokrin_EBA:MOK21A
    0.04459028 German_East
    0.04684943 Slovenian
    0.04822756 Czech

    Distance to: SRB_Mokrin_EBA:MOK20
    0.03429997 Italian_Northeast
    0.03459403 Swiss_French
    0.03526550 Italian_Aosta_Valley

    Distance to: SRB_Mokrin_EBA:MOK19A
    0.05619718 Austrian
    0.05770596 Slovenian
    0.05800253 Slovakian

    Distance to: SRB_Mokrin_EBA:MOK17A
    0.02875681 Italian_Bergamo
    0.02980493 Italian_Piedmont
    0.02989071 Italian_Liguria

    Distance to: SRB_Mokrin_EBA:MOK16A
    0.04021101 French_Occitanie
    0.04109038 French_Alsace
    0.04114813 French_Auvergne

    Distance to: SRB_Mokrin_EBA:MOK15
    0.03056794 Spanish_Barcelones
    0.03560987 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
    0.03611665 French_Auvergne

    Distance to: SRB_Mokrin_EBA:MOK14
    0.02602080 Swiss_German
    0.02603871 French_Auvergne
    0.02816770 French_Alsace

    Distance to: SRB_Mokrin_EBA:MOK13
    0.03461822 Italian_Veneto
    0.03527866 Spanish_Mallorca
    0.03532779 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige

    Distance to: SRB_Mokrin_EBA:MOK12
    0.04221948 French_Auvergne
    0.04270077 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
    0.04297288 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona

    Distance to: SRB_Mokrin_EBA:MOK10B
    0.02107159 French_Provence
    0.02180906 Swiss_French
    0.02270540 French_Auvergne

    Distance to: SRB_Mokrin_EBA:MOK9B
    0.03155398 Italian_Northeast
    0.03219824 French_Auvergne
    0.03320167 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige

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    Nice, very undersampled region in Europe in terms of ancients. Less East Med and of course less Slavic shift isn't too surprising. Higher steppe samples also isn't surprising given it's early BA, by the IA they probably averaged around MOK32, or similar to early Italics and early Alpine Celts.
    The Guanche skulls as a whole are unlike those of modern European Mediterraneans, and resemble northern European series most closely, especially those in which a brachycephalic element is present, as in Burgundian and Alemanni series.
    divided them into clearly differentiated types, which include a Mediterranean, a Nordic, a "Guanche," and an Alpine. The "Guanche" accounts for 50 per cent of the whole on the four islands of Teneriffe, Gomera, Gran Canaria, and Hierro; the Nordic for 31 per cent, the Mediterranean for 13 per cent, and the Alpine
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucas View Post
    There are scaled? Seems mainly continental Celtic-like, but some look Slavic-like admixed ( I know it is Bronze Age but still).
    I don't see nothing strage. We should take in account that Vojvodina it's in Pannonia, so it's not that strange.

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