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    Quote Originally Posted by Sterling Archer View Post
    Azerbaijani from the republic:
    Y-dna: R1a
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    Hey Sterling. Someone from Azerbaijani DNA Project told me that the Absheron average should be disregarded (at least if it's the one I made) as it consists of people living in Absheron but not native people from Absheron. So I suggest not using it anymore.

    And do you know where his paternal ancestor is from? (Asking because of his YDNA)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyp View Post
    Hey Sterling. Someone from Azerbaijani DNA Project told me that the Absheron average should be disregarded (at least if it's the one I made) as it consists of people living in Absheron but not native people from Absheron. So I suggest not using it anymore.
    I agree. I saw that they were discussing your list in that project
    You remember I told you the same about some of the results from Gabala and Derbent (in both regions NE=8). Knowing what I know about the mobility of Azerbaijanis, those results are definitely outlier, likely recent movers to the region. I think they should be removed or scrutinized more.
    Absheron will be even more challenging due to the huge influx from all over the country.

    They also explained why separated Qax-Zagatala from Dagestan because they thought it was distinct enough. I guess, also because it is useful to have North region for the republic also, as possessed to Derbent which is in another country )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sterling Archer View Post
    I agree. I saw that they were discussing your list in that project
    You remember I told you the same about some of the results from Gabala and Derbent (in both regions NE=8). Knowing what I know about the mobility of Azerbaijanis, those results are definitely outlier, likely recent movers to the region. I think they should be removed or scrutinized more.
    Absheron will be even more challenging due to the huge influx from all over the country.

    They also explained why separated Qax-Zagatala from Dagestan because they thought it was distinct enough. I guess, also because it is useful to have North region for the republic also, as possessed to Derbent which is in another country )
    Yes unfortunately I didn't knew that otherwise I wouldn't have included Absheron. It also is the question if someone wants to make an average for the region in general or just for the native people.
    Same goes for Qazvin/Zanjan as almost all of the results were mixed with Persians. On the one hand this is very common for that region but on the other hand I see why it shouldn't be included. It was misleading in that regard.

    I agree about the "North" being worth seperated from the other I just don't agree with small countries having that much averages in the default list. But it's definetly worth for Azerbaijani results to add them manually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyp View Post
    And do you know where his paternal ancestor is from? (Asking because of his YDNA)
    His paternal ancestors are from Baku, Gazakh and Sarab.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyp View Post
    Yes unfortunately I didn't knew that otherwise I wouldn't have included Absheron. It also is the question if someone wants to make an average for the region in general or just for the native people.
    Same goes for Qazvin/Zanjan as almost all of the results were mixed with Persians. On the one hand this is very common for that region but on the other hand I see why it shouldn't be included. It was misleading in that regard.

    I agree about the "North" being worth seperated from the other I just don't agree with small countries having that much averages in the default list. But it's definetly worth for Azerbaijani results to add them manually.
    It is a learning experience, I see no issues with that ))
    Did you discuss with them the unusual Gabala results too? I have not seen those results on their page, which leads me to believe that they are not genuine to the region also. One is most likely Udi (Gabala is their "home"), the other is not from that region judging by his/her results.
    Ditto for Derbent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sterling Archer View Post
    It is a learning experience, I see no issues with that ))
    Did you discuss with them the unusual Gabala results too? I have not seen those results on their page, which leads me to believe that they are not genuine to the region also. One is most likely Udi (Gabala is their "home"), the other is not from that region judging by his/her results.
    Ditto for Derbent.
    Yep surely it will improve from there.

    No I haven't discussed it.
    The Udi one I didn't include, it was too obvious of an outlier. The other one I probably included but I don't remember where it was from.

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    New Iranian Azerbaijani:


    Gedrosian: 22.74
    Siberian: 3.25
    Northwest_African: 0.25
    Southeast_Asian: 1.06
    Atlantic_Med: 8.96
    North_European: 9.25
    South_Asian: 3.48
    East_African: 0.37
    Southwest_Asian: 11.89
    East_Asian: 2.07
    Caucasian: 36.43
    Sub_Saharan: 0.25

    Distance to: RS
    3.40640573 Azerbaijani
    3.42454377 Azerbaijani_Iran
    3.51754176 Azerbaijani_Tabriz
    3.76486388 Azerbaijani_Ardabil_Moghan
    4.49998889 Azerbaijani_Karabakh
    4.79285927 Azerbaijani_Northwest
    4.96294268 Azerbaijani_Turkey
    5.53122952 Kurd_Kurmanji
    6.05995875 Turk_Southeast
    6.21260815 Yazidi
    6.63058067 Iran_Central
    6.84374167 Azerbaijani_North
    6.86939590 Iraq_Turkmen
    6.92056356 Kurd_Sorani
    6.99992143 Kurd_Adygea
    7.07292726 Zaza
    7.44157241 Talysh_Azerbaijan
    7.55584542 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
    8.07978960 Iranian_Fars
    8.73375063 Iran_Khorasan
    8.83311949 Iranian
    8.92864491 Turk_South
    9.04832029 Lur_Iran
    9.12195155 Turk_Central_East
    9.79388585 Iran_C_East

    Target: RS
    Distance: 1.5626% / 1.56263736 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    62.5 Azerbaijani
    16.7 Azerbaijani_Iran
    15.2 Iran_C_East
    5.6 Yagnobi
    Last edited by Kyp; 02-08-2021 at 07:28 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyp View Post
    New Iranian Azerbaijani:
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    Gedrosian: 22.74
    Siberian: 3.25
    Northwest_African: 0.25
    Southeast_Asian: 1.06
    Atlantic_Med: 8.96
    North_European: 9.25
    South_Asian: 3.48
    East_African: 0.37
    Southwest_Asian: 11.89
    East_Asian: 2.07
    Caucasian: 36.43
    Sub_Saharan: 0.25

    Distance to: RS
    3.40640573 Azerbaijani
    3.42454377 Azerbaijani_Iran
    3.51754176 Azerbaijani_Tabriz
    3.76486388 Azerbaijani_Ardabil_Moghan
    4.49998889 Azerbaijani_Karabakh
    4.79285927 Azerbaijani_Northwest
    4.96294268 Azerbaijani_Turkey
    5.53122952 Kurd_Kurmanji
    6.05995875 Turk_Southeast
    6.21260815 Yazidi
    6.63058067 Iran_Central
    6.84374167 Azerbaijani_North
    6.86939590 Iraq_Turkmen
    6.92056356 Kurd_Sorani
    6.99992143 Kurd_Adygea
    7.07292726 Zaza
    7.44157241 Talysh_Azerbaijan
    7.55584542 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
    8.07978960 Iranian_Fars
    8.73375063 Iran_Khorasan
    8.83311949 Iranian
    8.92864491 Turk_South
    9.04832029 Lur_Iran
    9.12195155 Turk_Central_East
    9.79388585 Iran_C_East

    Target: RS
    Distance: 1.5626% / 1.56263736 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    62.5 Azerbaijani
    16.7 Azerbaijani_Iran
    15.2 Iran_C_East
    5.6 Yagnobi
    She looks very Turkic also her autosomal too

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    Afghan

    Gedrosia 31.12 Pct
    Siberian 5.55 Pct
    Northwest_African 0.14 Pct
    Southeast_Asian -
    Atlantic_Med 2.59 Pct
    North_European 14.11 Pct
    South_Asian 21.6 Pct
    East_African -
    Southwest_Asian 3.08 Pct
    East_Asian 4.35 Pct
    Caucasus 17.46 Pct
    Sub_Saharan -

    Distance to: Jahed
    4.87928273 Tajik_Kabul
    7.72800104 Pashtun_Uthmankhel
    8.14751496 Pashtun_Tarkalani
    8.19940852 Pashtun_Yusafzai
    8.61138781 Pashtun_Kandahar
    8.66228607 Kho
    9.16882217 Tajik_Panjshir&Kapisa
    11.92283104 Kalash
    11.97590080 Pamiri_Ishkashim
    12.13297161 Nuristani

    Target: Jahed
    Distance: 0.9005% / 0.90049818 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    54.4 Tajik_Kabul
    32.4 Kho
    6.1 Balkan_Gypsy
    3.6 Pulliyar
    2.6 Dolgan
    0.9 Tatar_Zabolotniye

    Target: Jahed
    Distance: 3.1143% / 3.11427401 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    54.6 Tajik_Kabul
    24.9 Kho
    11.0 Balkan_Gypsy
    9.5 Nepali_Khas_Brahmin

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    Armenian have one Lezgin great great grandparent interesting from where did she get Lezgin great great grandparent

    Gedrosia 20.32
    Siberian 0
    Northwest_African 0.75
    Southeast_Asian 0
    Atlantic_Med 9.93
    North_European 6.44
    South_Asian 1.30
    East_African 0.32
    Southwest_Asian 12.71
    East_Asian 0
    Caucasus 48.24
    Sub_Saharan 0

    Distance to: Nat
    3.31238585 Udi_Azerbaijan
    3.95828246 Armenian_East
    4.30258062 Turk_East
    6.19627307 Armenian_West
    6.66817066 Turk_Ahiska
    7.55775099 Zaza
    7.79333048 Azeri_Jew
    7.94305986 Assyrian_North
    8.42327727 Assyrian_West
    8.50944769 Turk_East_Black_Sea
    8.51380643 Assyrian_South
    9.30592285 Greek_Pontus
    9.31553004 Talysh_Azerbaijan
    9.42987275 Hemshin
    9.66654540 Azerbaijani_Turkey
    9.69033539 Kurd_Kurmanji
    9.89938382 Kurd_Adygea
    10.13579301 Georgian
    10.26163730 Laz
    10.60940149 Azerbaijani_Iran
    10.80798316 Iranian_Jew
    11.10516546 Mandean
    11.26259739 Azerbaijani
    11.39312951 Kurdish_Jew
    11.46047556 Turk_Central_East

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