Transylvanian/Romanian GEDmatch Results

**~~Ion Basescul~~** · 12-23-2020, 12:29 AM

From Mures

N_Atlantic	Baltic	West_Med	West_Asian	East_Med	Red_Sea	South_Asian	East_Asian	Siberian	Amerindian	Oceanian	NE_African	Sub-Saharan
28.08	23.63	18.50	8.13	14.24	0.79	1.27	0.88	1.70	0.67	0.91	1.19	0

Compared to others from Mures

N_Atlantic	Baltic	West_Med	West_Asian	East_Med	Red_Sea	South_Asian	East_Asian	Siberian	Amerindian	Oceanian	NE_African	Sub-Saharan
24.25	30.41	14.82	9.94	16.08	1.64	0	0.47	0.99	0.65	0.73	0	0
21.44	28.59	16.86	10.54	16.15	3.25	0.87	0	1.41	0.90	0	0	0
26.34	22.26	19.68	10.29	14.43	2.80	2.11	0	1.52	0.30	0.28	0	0
25.50	23.15	17.63	10.05	17.66	2.79	0.10	0.55	2.01	0.27	0.30	0	0
25.25	24.30	18.85	9.80	14.83	2.78	2.41	0	0.18	0.68	0.58	0.34	0
24.49	30.54	13.40	9.93	16.80	2.35	0	0.31	1.77	0	0.41	0	0
25.07	23.78	16.99	11.66	16.06	2.05	1.78	0	0.85	0.87	0.65	0.05	0.19

Distance to:	Mures_ind
4.83290803	Romania_Crisana
5.99695756	Romania_Transylvania
6.00520607	Montenegrin
6.26758327	Székely
6.41424976	Romania_Moldavia_South
6.55450990	Bosniak_Sandzak
6.56163089	Hungarian_Transylvania
6.82665365	Romania_Oltenia
6.82671956	Romania_Maramures
6.98000716	Romania_average
7.08612024	Csángó
7.09305999	Serb_central
7.33922339	Serb
7.46171562	Romania_Banat
7.71310573	Serb_south
8.00126240	Bulgaria_Southwestern
8.15479000	Romania_Wallachia
8.23280633	Serb_north
8.28882380	Romania_Dobruja
8.55764570	Moldova_South
8.59311352	Romania_Moldavia_North
8.72528510	Romania_Muntenia
8.76721164	Bulgaria_Northwestern
8.93242968	Croat_West
9.02941859	Croat_South

Distance to:	Mures_ind
4.83290803	Romania_Crisana
5.99695756	Romania_Transilvania
6.02557998	Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
6.41424976	Romania_Moldova_Sud
6.56163089	Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
6.82665365	Romania_Oltenia
6.82671956	Romania_Maramures
7.05607540	Romania_Moldova_Csango
7.24277571	Romania_average
7.46171562	Romania_Banat
8.28882380	Romania_Dobrogea
8.59311352	Romania_Moldova_Nord
8.72528510	Romania_Muntenia
9.65511264	Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
9.76475294	Bulgarian
10.83413587	Aromanian_North-Macedonia
11.98206159	Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander
15.31433642	Aromanian_Central-Macedonia
15.91334032	Romania_Ukrainian
16.21977805	Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
21.43077227	Ukrainian_Lviv
27.60122280	Crimean_Tatar
29.64596937	Romania_Jewish
29.83076432	Romania_Dobruja_Tatar
33.46760971	Romania_Roma

Distance: 2.1703% / 2.17026658
Target: Mures_ind | ADC: 0.25x RC
44.9 Romania_Crisana
37.9 Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
10.0 Aromanian_Central-Macedonia
5.4 Romania_Dobruja_Tatar
1.8 Romania_Roma

-Saxon, Aromanian
Distance: 4.1607% / 4.16070040
Target: Mures_ind | ADC: 0.25x RC
62.6 Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
28.9 Romania_Crisana
8.5 Romania_Jewish

-Hungarian
Distance: 4.8329% / 4.83290803
Target: Mures_ind | ADC: 0.25x RC
100.0 Romania_Crisana

Distance to:	Mures_ind
3.38439064	Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud
4.56435099	Romania_Crisana_Arad
5.47517123	Romania_Transylvania_Alba
5.49777228	Romania_Crisana_Bihor
5.71404410	Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu
5.83717397	Romania_Transylvania_Mures
5.87694649	Romania_Transylvania_Brasov
6.30435564	Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin
6.68198324	Romania_Transylvania_Cluj
6.72488662	Romania_Maramures_SatuMare
6.78392217	Romania_Transylvania_Szekler
7.22754453	Romania_Maramures_Maramures
7.51865679	Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara
7.71802436	Romania_Banat_Timis
9.20325486	Romania_Crisana_Salaj
9.35538882	Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
9.65511264	Romania_Transylvania_Saxon
10.65239879	Romania_Transylvania_1/4Roma

**Lucas** · 12-27-2020, 10:31 AM

Can you post Siebenburgen Saxons?

**~~Ion Basescul~~** · 12-27-2020, 03:02 PM

Originally Posted by Lucas

Can you post Siebenburgen Saxons?

I have six samples.

This is the average (doesn't count one outlier):

N_Atlantic	Baltic	West_Med	West_Asian	East_Med	Red_Sea	South_Asian	East_Asian	Siberian	Amerindian	Oceanian	NE_African	Sub-Saharan
36.95	23.28	17.66	6.80	11.73	1.51	0.70	0.42	0.11	0.61	0.10	0.01	0.11

And these are individual results:

N_Atlantic	Baltic	West_Med	West_Asian	East_Med	Red_Sea	South_Asian	East_Asian	Siberian	Amerindian	Oceanian	NE_African	Sub-Saharan
28.80	23.90	16.40	11.34	15.81	1.81	0.97	0.44	0	0.32	0.14	0.08	0
30.10	26.02	16.78	7.59	14.70	2.70	0	0.83	0	0.89	0	0	0.37
42.38	19.00	19.51	5.95	10.16	0.78	0.72	0	0	1.08	0.43	0	0
41.95	21.58	18.39	4.69	10.93	1.08	0.66	0	0	0.69	0	0	0
39.60	25.27	16.14	6.41	8.05	1.75	0.84	0.85	0.67	0.09	0	0	0.29
38.88	23.90	18.71	4.80	10.71	0.95	1.02	0.40	0	0.61	0	0	0

**vbnetkhio** · 02-08-2021, 06:13 PM

Bistrita-Nasaud

Population
North_Atlantic 25.43 Pct
Baltic 22.43 Pct
West_Med 16.63 Pct
West_Asian 4.32 Pct
East_Med 20.89 Pct
Red_Sea 4.34 Pct
South_Asian 1.17 Pct
East_Asian 1.48 Pct
Siberian 1.06 Pct
Amerindian 1.66 Pct
Oceanian 0.4 Pct
Northeast_African 0.19 Pct
Sub-Saharan -

Population
North_Atlantic 24.96 Pct
Baltic 26.34 Pct
West_Med 15.6 Pct
West_Asian 10.6 Pct
East_Med 17.46 Pct
Red_Sea 1.62 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian 2.57 Pct
Amerindian 0.84 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

**~~Ion Basescul~~** · 02-08-2021, 08:26 PM

Originally Posted by vbnetkhio

Bistrita-Nasaud

Population
North_Atlantic 25.43 Pct
Baltic 22.43 Pct
West_Med 16.63 Pct
West_Asian 4.32 Pct
East_Med 20.89 Pct
Red_Sea 4.34 Pct
South_Asian 1.17 Pct
East_Asian 1.48 Pct
Siberian 1.06 Pct
Amerindian 1.66 Pct
Oceanian 0.4 Pct
Northeast_African 0.19 Pct
Sub-Saharan -

Population
North_Atlantic 24.96 Pct
Baltic 26.34 Pct
West_Med 15.6 Pct
West_Asian 10.6 Pct
East_Med 17.46 Pct
Red_Sea 1.62 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian 2.57 Pct
Amerindian 0.84 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

First one seems mixed with Jews, but that's just a guess of mine. Need to look closer. Can you rep/PM me the kit numbers please?

**~~Ion Basescul~~** · 02-24-2021, 09:44 PM

From Cluj

Kit	N_Atlantic	Baltic	West_Med	West_Asian	East_Med	Red_Sea	South_Asian	East_Asian	Siberian	Amerindian	Oceanian	NE_African	Sub-Saharan
1	22.48	31.89	18.08	8.29	13.14	2.31	0	0	1.92	1.08	0	0.78	0
2	24.35	27.57	16.44	11.49	17.99	0.19	0	1.30	0	0.53	0.12	0	0
3	24.13	26.16	16.72	12.00	17.62	1.12	0.93	0.69	0.24	0	0.38	0	0

Compared to others from Cluj

N_Atlantic	Baltic	West_Med	West_Asian	East_Med	Red_Sea	South_Asian	East_Asian	Siberian	Amerindian	Oceanian	NE_African	Sub-Saharan
25.27	29.88	15.47	6.15	19.23	0.87	0.64	0.74	0.69	0.59	0	0.47	0
26.32	28.27	14.76	6.07	20.62	1.34	1.12	0	0.79	0	0.05	0	0.67
20.78	29.81	17.69	9.93	16.36	1.09	0.08	1.55	1.64	0.29	0.79	0	0
25.12	28.04	17.72	9.07	13.24	2.87	0.74	1.01	2.00	0.19	0	0	0
27.29	20.87	15.80	10.06	18.91	3.56	0.61	0.53	0.61	0.68	1.09	0	0
22.26	27.61	17.03	8.79	19.61	0	0.93	0	2.31	0.54	0.74	0	0.18
24.11	23.90	18.08	11.10	17.10	2.41	0.10	0	1.63	0.52	1.06	0	0
23.76	23.58	17.11	11.98	19.05	0.95	0.72	0.35	2.27	0	0.23	0	0
20.35	25.48	18.73	11.63	16.45	3.22	0.75	1.37	0	0.65	0.54	0	0.84
21.45	27.57	19.48	11.83	13.43	2.19	0.66	0	2.46	0.78	0	0.09	0.06
24.75	23.75	17.97	10.90	16.33	2.79	0	1.11	1.34	1.06	0	0	0
19.95	25.72	17.82	13.17	17.72	3.54	0.29	0	0	1.02	0.70	0.07	0
23.88	24.84	17.74	12.80	17.02	1.26	0.14	0.39	0.97	0.58	0.39	0	0
24.63	24.80	18.08	12.42	15.71	3.08	0.61	0	0	0	0.34	0	0.33
26.75	25.60	15.85	10.57	16.17	2.01	0	0.73	0	1.78	0.55	0	0
25.44	25.27	14.97	10.18	13.86	2.26	3.61	0.23	2.36	0	0.88	0	0.94
22.71	27.80	19.86	9.86	14.53	0.62	1.41	0.54	1.04	1.13	0.23	0.10	0.18
21.19	26.77	18.68	9.15	19.15	1.02	1.97	0.50	0.18	1.25	0.14	0	0
22.89	26.17	17.33	11.96	16.97	2.49	0	0.71	0	1.15	0.33	0	0
23.79	26.53	15.09	11.23	18.32	2.42	0.97	0	0.57	0.60	0.45	0	0
22.32	25.69	18.71	9.56	18.03	2.19	0	0	3.20	0	0.29	0	0
25.83	26.01	17.52	7.95	19.36	0.68	0	2.21	0.15	0.24	0	0	0
27.61	28.23	15.91	5.44	16.08	3.81	0	1.54	0.99	0.39	0	0	0
28.93	23.05	17.28	7.96	17.17	2.06	1.53	1.46	0.13	0	0.40	0	0
21.75	26.50	19.81	11.69	15.46	1.12	0	0	3.00	0	0.67	0	0
18.53	29.42	18.91	15.82	14.25	0	0	0	2.27	0	0.81	0	0

1

Spoiler!

Distance to:	Cluj_1
3.83066574	Moldova_average
4.06610379	Moldova_Centre
4.17100707	Serb_north
4.27140492	Bosniak
4.59140501	Serb
4.75590160	Romania_Moldavia_North
4.87684324	Croat_South
4.91202606	Moldova_North
4.97028168	Serb_central
5.34500702	Romania_Maramures
6.71057375	Croat_East
6.91387735	Croat
6.94224027	Csángó-Ceangău
7.02569570	Moldova_South
7.08067087	Croat_West
7.40328306	Serb_south
7.44949663	Székely
7.48241939	Romania_Crisana
7.52029255	Romania_Moldavia_South
7.71589917	Romania_Transylvania
7.80259572	Romania_average
7.97628986	Hungarian_Transylvania
8.27255704	Romania_Banat
8.42372246	Hungarian_Alföld
8.42854080	Montenegrin

Distance to:	Cluj_1
3.83066574	Moldova_average
4.06610379	Moldova_Centru
4.75590160	Romania_Moldova_Nord
4.91202606	Moldova_Nord
5.19080919	Romania_Suceava_Botosani
5.34500702	Romania_Maramures
6.94224027	Romania_Moldova_Csango
7.02569570	Moldova_Sud
7.44949663	Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
7.48241939	Romania_Crisana
7.52029255	Romania_Moldova_Sud
7.71589917	Romania_Transilvania
7.80259572	Romania_average
7.97628986	Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
8.27255704	Romania_Banat
8.92876251	Romania_Oltenia
9.35655920	Romania_Dobrogea
9.48443989	Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
9.71343914	Ukrainian_Carpathian
9.75465017	Romania_Ukrainian
9.87463417	Romania_Muntenia
11.27964538	Bulgarian
13.37790342	Moldova_Gagauzia
15.54457140	Aromanian
17.12647074	Romania_Transilvania_Saxon

Distance to:	Cluj_1
3.28993921	Romania_Crisana_Salaj
5.12533901	Romania_Maramures_Maramures
7.00242101	Romania_Transylvania_Cluj
7.14134441	Romania_Transylvania_Covasna
7.15525681	Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
7.18481733	Romania_Transylvania_Szekler
7.23749266	Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu
7.53705513	Romania_Transylvania_Mures
7.60287446	Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud
7.62516229	Romania_Maramures_SatuMare
7.66336741	Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara
8.09911724	Romania_Transylvania_Alba
8.13467885	Romania_Banat_Timis
8.16548223	Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin
8.24338523	Romania_Crisana_Bihor
8.86337972	Romania_Transylvania_Brasov
10.07168308	Romania_Crisana_Arad
13.49079686	Romania_Transylvania_1/4Roma
17.12647074	Romania_Transylvania_Saxon

2

Spoiler!

Distance to:	Cluj_2
3.31279338	Romania_average
3.35961307	Romania_Transylvania
3.37823919	Romania_Moldavia_South
3.55214020	Serb_south
3.72439257	Romania_Oltenia
3.78257849	Romania_Crisana
3.87245400	Romania_Banat
4.01286681	Moldova_South
4.04724598	Montenegrin
4.15849732	Bulgaria_Northwestern
4.17403881	Romania_Maramures
4.36594778	Romania_Wallachia
4.45473905	Serb
4.51553983	Romania_Dobruja
4.54650415	Bosniak_Sandzak
4.57779423	Serb_central
4.75929617	Romania_Muntenia
4.82278965	Bulgaria_Southwestern
5.39042670	Bulgaria_average
5.40478492	Romania_Moldavia_North
5.54302264	Bulgaria_Northcentral
5.56979353	Serb_north
6.09062394	Pomak_Bulgaria
6.09078813	Moldova_average
6.29472795	Bulgaria_Southcentral

Distance to:	Cluj_2
3.31279338	Romania_average
3.35961307	Romania_Transilvania
3.37823919	Romania_Moldova_Sud
3.72439257	Romania_Oltenia
3.78257849	Romania_Crisana
3.87245400	Romania_Banat
4.01286681	Moldova_Sud
4.17403881	Romania_Maramures
4.51553983	Romania_Dobrogea
4.75929617	Romania_Muntenia
5.40478492	Romania_Moldova_Nord
5.47546345	Bulgarian
6.09078813	Moldova_average
6.33246398	Moldova_Centru
7.18562454	Romania_Suceava_Botosani
7.75641025	Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
8.19405882	Moldova_Gagauzia
8.64493493	Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
8.94825123	Romania_Moldova_Csango
9.54668005	Moldova_Nord
9.96158622	Aromanian
14.41697957	Romania_Ukrainian
14.69990816	Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
14.75172532	Ukrainian_Carpathian
15.58441850	Romania_Transilvania_Saxon

Distance to:	Cluj_2
2.74515938	Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara
3.39493741	Romania_Transylvania_Cluj
3.41045452	Romania_Transylvania_Alba
3.46469335	Romania_Banat_Timis
3.83185334	Romania_Crisana_Bihor
3.91090782	Romania_Transylvania_Brasov
3.92700904	Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin
4.12618468	Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu
4.41208567	Romania_Transylvania_Mures
4.50248820	Romania_Maramures_Maramures
4.62783967	Romania_Transylvania_Covasna
4.72592848	Romania_Maramures_SatuMare
5.17664950	Romania_Crisana_Arad
5.83494644	Romania_Crisana_Salaj
5.94834431	Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud
8.06377703	Romania_Transylvania_Szekler
10.19032384	Romania_Transylvania_1/4Roma
10.23896479	Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
15.58441850	Romania_Transylvania_Saxon

3

Spoiler!

Distance to:	Cluj_3
2.29392676	Romania_average
2.38679702	Romania_Oltenia
2.47028338	Romania_Transylvania
2.52126952	Romania_Moldavia_South
2.64847126	Romania_Banat
3.01683609	Montenegrin
3.03146829	Romania_Wallachia
3.26879183	Romania_Dobruja
3.29836323	Bulgaria_Southwestern
3.40073521	Moldova_South
3.42899402	Serb_south
3.43691722	Romania_Crisana
3.47050429	Romania_Muntenia
3.49193356	Bosniak_Sandzak
3.57583557	Bulgaria_Northwestern
4.08548651	Bulgaria_average
4.27617820	Romania_Maramures
4.34575655	Bulgaria_Northcentral
5.01842605	Serb
5.09186606	Bulgaria_Southcentral
5.17034815	Serb_central
5.17407963	Bulgaria_Northeastern
5.36087679	Pomak_Bulgaria
5.91450759	Romania_Moldavia_North
6.32008702	Serb_north

Distance to:	Cluj_3
2.29392676	Romania_average
2.38679702	Romania_Oltenia
2.47028338	Romania_Transilvania
2.52126952	Romania_Moldova_Sud
2.64847126	Romania_Banat
3.26879183	Romania_Dobrogea
3.40073521	Moldova_Sud
3.43691722	Romania_Crisana
3.47050429	Romania_Muntenia
4.27617820	Romania_Maramures
4.42022624	Bulgarian
5.91450759	Romania_Moldova_Nord
6.72966567	Moldova_average
6.91690682	Moldova_Centru
6.91916903	Moldova_Gagauzia
7.99061324	Romania_Suceava_Botosani
8.04078354	Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
8.77354546	Aromanian
8.82801223	Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
9.18961914	Romania_Moldova_Csango
10.40765103	Moldova_Nord
15.36294243	Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
15.49186883	Romania_Ukrainian
15.74635513	Ukrainian_Carpathian
15.78782442	Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

Distance to:	Cluj_3
2.18508581	Romania_Banat_Timis
2.67162872	Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara
2.70242484	Romania_Transylvania_Brasov
2.72827785	Romania_Transylvania_Alba
2.75639257	Romania_Transylvania_Cluj
2.97326420	Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin
3.29783262	Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu
3.31514706	Romania_Crisana_Bihor
3.37472962	Romania_Transylvania_Mures
4.22638143	Romania_Maramures_SatuMare
4.29809260	Romania_Crisana_Arad
4.85961933	Romania_Maramures_Maramures
4.87337665	Romania_Transylvania_Covasna
5.59132364	Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud
6.48890592	Romania_Crisana_Salaj
8.52115016	Romania_Transylvania_Szekler
8.61727335	Romania_Transylvania_1/4Roma
10.76969359	Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
15.36294243	Romania_Transylvania_Saxon

**~~Ion Basescul~~** · 02-24-2021, 10:00 PM

From Cluj

Kit	N_Atlantic	Baltic	West_Med	West_Asian	East_Med	Red_Sea	South_Asian	East_Asian	Siberian	Amerindian	Oceanian	NE_African	Sub-Saharan
H353037	22.71	24.42	19.12	7.83	22.13	1.85	0	0	1.07	0	0.87	0	0
A338866	24.31	31.78	19.90	2.80	16.34	2.53	0.19	0	1.20	0.80	0.15	0	0
EM2016534	25.74	24.86	18.67	7.73	15.04	4.06	0	0.78	1.93	0.99	0	0	0.19

Compared to others from Cluj

N_Atlantic	Baltic	West_Med	West_Asian	East_Med	Red_Sea	South_Asian	East_Asian	Siberian	Amerindian	Oceanian	NE_African	Sub-Saharan
25.27	29.88	15.47	6.15	19.23	0.87	0.64	0.74	0.69	0.59	0	0.47	0
26.32	28.27	14.76	6.07	20.62	1.34	1.12	0	0.79	0	0.05	0	0.67
20.78	29.81	17.69	9.93	16.36	1.09	0.08	1.55	1.64	0.29	0.79	0	0
25.12	28.04	17.72	9.07	13.24	2.87	0.74	1.01	2.00	0.19	0	0	0
27.29	20.87	15.80	10.06	18.91	3.56	0.61	0.53	0.61	0.68	1.09	0	0
22.26	27.61	17.03	8.79	19.61	0	0.93	0	2.31	0.54	0.74	0	0.18
24.11	23.90	18.08	11.10	17.10	2.41	0.10	0	1.63	0.52	1.06	0	0
23.76	23.58	17.11	11.98	19.05	0.95	0.72	0.35	2.27	0	0.23	0	0
20.35	25.48	18.73	11.63	16.45	3.22	0.75	1.37	0	0.65	0.54	0	0.84
21.45	27.57	19.48	11.83	13.43	2.19	0.66	0	2.46	0.78	0	0.09	0.06
24.75	23.75	17.97	10.90	16.33	2.79	0	1.11	1.34	1.06	0	0	0
19.95	25.72	17.82	13.17	17.72	3.54	0.29	0	0	1.02	0.70	0.07	0
23.88	24.84	17.74	12.80	17.02	1.26	0.14	0.39	0.97	0.58	0.39	0	0
24.63	24.80	18.08	12.42	15.71	3.08	0.61	0	0	0	0.34	0	0.33
26.75	25.60	15.85	10.57	16.17	2.01	0	0.73	0	1.78	0.55	0	0
25.44	25.27	14.97	10.18	13.86	2.26	3.61	0.23	2.36	0	0.88	0	0.94
22.71	27.80	19.86	9.86	14.53	0.62	1.41	0.54	1.04	1.13	0.23	0.10	0.18
21.19	26.77	18.68	9.15	19.15	1.02	1.97	0.50	0.18	1.25	0.14	0	0
22.89	26.17	17.33	11.96	16.97	2.49	0	0.71	0	1.15	0.33	0	0
23.79	26.53	15.09	11.23	18.32	2.42	0.97	0	0.57	0.60	0.45	0	0
22.32	25.69	18.71	9.56	18.03	2.19	0	0	3.20	0	0.29	0	0
25.83	26.01	17.52	7.95	19.36	0.68	0	2.21	0.15	0.24	0	0	0
27.61	28.23	15.91	5.44	16.08	3.81	0	1.54	0.99	0.39	0	0	0
28.93	23.05	17.28	7.96	17.17	2.06	1.53	1.46	0.13	0	0.40	0	0
21.75	26.50	19.81	11.69	15.46	1.12	0	0	3.00	0	0.67	0	0
18.53	29.42	18.91	15.82	14.25	0	0	0	2.27	0	0.81	0	0
22.48	31.89	18.08	8.29	13.14	2.31	0	0	1.92	1.08	0	0.78	0
24.35	27.57	16.44	11.49	17.99	0.19	0	1.30	0	0.53	0.12	0	0
24.13	26.16	16.72	12.00	17.62	1.12	0.93	0.69	0.24	0	0.38	0	0

1

Spoiler!

Distance to:	Cluj_1
3.99733661	Macedonian_North
4.38341191	Macedonian_average
4.70258440	Bulgaria_Northwestern
4.80099990	Bulgaria_Southcentral
5.03508689	Bulgaria_average
5.03953371	Macedonian_South
5.07309570	Bosniak_Sandzak
5.23013384	Serb_south
5.26457026	Bulgaria_Northcentral
5.27214378	Romania_Muntenia
5.29187112	Romania_Wallachia
5.29530924	Romania_Dobruja
5.31572196	Bulgaria_Southwestern
5.57192067	Romania_Oltenia
5.72898769	Romania_Banat
5.89462467	Montenegrin
6.07237186	Pomak_Bulgaria
6.08899006	Romania_average
6.08917072	Vlach(Aromanian)_average
6.26703279	Moldova_South
6.40153107	Romania_Transylvania
6.47183900	Romania_Moldavia_South
6.51300238	Greek_Northern-Thrace
6.66738329	Moldova_South_Gagauzia
6.88755399	Bulgaria_Northeastern

Distance to:	Cluj_1
4.94753474	Bulgarian
5.27214378	Romania_Muntenia
5.29530924	Romania_Dobrogea
5.57192067	Romania_Oltenia
5.72898769	Romania_Banat
6.08899006	Romania_average
6.08917072	Aromanian
6.26703279	Moldova_Sud
6.40153107	Romania_Transilvania
6.47183900	Romania_Moldova_Sud
7.25847091	Moldova_Gagauzia
7.26678058	Romania_Crisana
8.34693956	Romania_Maramures
10.53977704	Romania_Moldova_Nord
11.07874090	Moldova_average
11.36948108	Moldova_Centru
12.23992239	Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
12.26539033	Romania_Suceava_Botosani
13.09148960	Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
13.89604260	Romania_Moldova_Csango
14.91685289	Moldova_Nord
17.83565250	Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
19.01835166	Romania_Ukrainian
19.07553145	Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
19.78906264	Ukrainian_Carpathian

Distance to:	Cluj_1
5.15874016	Romania_Maramures_SatuMare
5.37553718	Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin
5.72769587	Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara
5.92811100	Romania_Crisana_Bihor
6.21751558	Romania_Banat_Timis
6.36369390	Romania_Transylvania_Alba
6.39994531	Romania_Transylvania_Covasna
6.55101519	Romania_Transylvania_Cluj
6.78361261	Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu
6.80486591	Romania_Transylvania_Brasov
7.18085649	Romania_Crisana_Arad
7.66570936	Romania_Transylvania_Mures
9.02838856	Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud
9.52186956	Romania_Maramures_Maramures
10.83482349	Romania_Crisana_Salaj
11.08126798	Romania_Transylvania_1/4Roma
12.36039239	Romania_Transylvania_Szekler
15.05101325	Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
17.83565250	Romania_Transylvania_Saxon

2

Spoiler!

Weird distances due to very little West Asian

Distance to:	Cluj_2
7.17379955	Serb_central
7.51539087	Serb
7.51827108	Serb_north
7.78337330	Croat_South
7.97665343	Romania_Maramures
8.13051044	Bosniak
8.50588620	Romania_Moldavia_North
8.50687369	Moldova_average
8.63035341	Croat_West
8.67816225	Serb_south
8.71721859	Moldova_Centre
9.13116093	Romania_Crisana
9.22081341	Croat
9.57492037	Moldova_South
9.63319781	Székely
9.66817977	Romania_Moldavia_South
9.74553744	Croat_East
9.75189212	Romania_Transylvania
10.01964071	Montenegrin
10.05788745	Moldova_North
10.07717222	Romania_average
10.09958910	Hungarian_Transylvania
10.19376770	Bulgaria_Northwestern
10.35813690	Csángó-Ceangău
10.46001912	Hungarian_Alföld

Distance to:	Cluj_2
7.97665343	Romania_Maramures
8.50588620	Romania_Moldova_Nord
8.50687369	Moldova_average
8.55524401	Romania_Suceava_Botosani
8.71721859	Moldova_Centru
9.13116093	Romania_Crisana
9.57492037	Moldova_Sud
9.63319781	Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
9.66817977	Romania_Moldova_Sud
9.75189212	Romania_Transilvania
10.05788745	Moldova_Nord
10.07717222	Romania_average
10.09958910	Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
10.35813690	Romania_Moldova_Csango
10.49154421	Romania_Banat
10.80035648	Romania_Oltenia
10.97294400	Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
11.32395249	Romania_Ukrainian
11.40450350	Romania_Dobrogea
11.93173500	Romania_Muntenia
12.37455454	Ukrainian_Carpathian
12.99064664	Bulgarian
15.67480143	Moldova_Gagauzia
16.18746429	Aromanian
16.64347019	Romania_Transilvania_Saxon

Distance to:	Cluj_2
7.86432451	Romania_Crisana_Salaj
8.36171035	Romania_Maramures_Maramures
8.59367209	Romania_Maramures_SatuMare
8.84355698	Romania_Transylvania_Szekler
9.25966522	Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud
9.27309010	Romania_Transylvania_Cluj
9.32090661	Romania_Transylvania_Covasna
9.37260903	Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu
9.45104756	Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara
9.45179877	Romania_Crisana_Bihor
9.59511334	Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
9.81978615	Romania_Transylvania_Alba
9.88460925	Romania_Transylvania_Mures
9.94306794	Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin
10.62592584	Romania_Banat_Timis
10.78050092	Romania_Transylvania_Brasov
11.09991441	Romania_Crisana_Arad
15.55889135	Romania_Transylvania_1/4Roma
16.64347019	Romania_Transylvania_Saxon

3

Spoiler!

Distance to:	Cluj_3
4.24518551	Romania_Crisana
4.27533624	Montenegrin
4.56446054	Romania_Transylvania
4.68384457	Romania_Moldavia_South
5.22155149	Bosniak_Sandzak
5.24578879	Romania_Maramures
5.29251358	Romania_average
5.46673577	Romania_Oltenia
5.66123661	Romania_Banat
5.70860754	Serb_south
5.75232996	Serb_central
5.96856767	Serb
6.11283895	Moldova_South
6.45338671	Romania_Dobruja
6.49079348	Romania_Wallachia
6.49801508	Bulgaria_Southwestern
6.61635852	Bulgaria_Northwestern
6.72395717	Székely
6.78958025	Romania_Moldavia_North
6.99605603	Romania_Muntenia
7.07448231	Serb_north
7.24122918	Hungarian_Transylvania
7.55740696	Bulgaria_average
7.82469808	Csángó-Ceangău
8.18189465	Bulgaria_Northcentral

Distance to:	Cluj_3
4.24518551	Romania_Crisana
4.56446054	Romania_Transilvania
4.68384457	Romania_Moldova_Sud
5.24578879	Romania_Maramures
5.29251358	Romania_average
5.46673577	Romania_Oltenia
5.66123661	Romania_Banat
6.11283895	Moldova_Sud
6.45338671	Romania_Dobrogea
6.72395717	Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
6.78958025	Romania_Moldova_Nord
6.99605603	Romania_Muntenia
7.24122918	Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
7.82469808	Romania_Moldova_Csango
8.18293346	Moldova_average
8.21923354	Bulgarian
8.30875442	Moldova_Centru
8.60081973	Romania_Suceava_Botosani
10.66102716	Moldova_Gagauzia
10.86074123	Aromanian
11.32998676	Moldova_Nord
12.31247335	Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
15.21340199	Romania_Ukrainian
15.43999352	Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
15.61160146	Ukrainian_Carpathian

Distance to:	Cluj_3
3.61970993	Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud
3.89271114	Romania_Transylvania_Mures
4.30394006	Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu
4.33860577	Romania_Maramures_SatuMare
4.46152440	Romania_Crisana_Arad
4.53657360	Romania_Transylvania_Brasov
4.66009657	Romania_Transylvania_Alba
4.67032119	Romania_Transylvania_Cluj
4.89235117	Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin
5.43124295	Romania_Crisana_Bihor
5.65328223	Romania_Banat_Timis
6.07417484	Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara
6.17615576	Romania_Maramures_Maramures
7.02074070	Romania_Transylvania_Szekler
7.14112736	Romania_Crisana_Salaj
7.97966165	Romania_Transylvania_Covasna
9.44128699	Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
10.60880766	Romania_Transylvania_1/4Roma
12.31247335	Romania_Transylvania_Saxon

**~~Ion Basescul~~** · 02-24-2021, 10:06 PM

From Cluj

Kit	N_Atlantic	Baltic	West_Med	West_Asian	East_Med	Red_Sea	South_Asian	East_Asian	Siberian	Amerindian	Oceanian	NE_African	Sub-Saharan
1	26.75	25.54	17.98	8.75	16.54	1.83	0	0.22	0.93	0.96	0.48	0	0
2	28.95	23.38	16.35	9.31	17.97	0	0	0.27	1.93	0.84	1.01	0	0

Compared to others from Cluj

N_Atlantic	Baltic	West_Med	West_Asian	East_Med	Red_Sea	South_Asian	East_Asian	Siberian	Amerindian	Oceanian	NE_African	Sub-Saharan
25.27	29.88	15.47	6.15	19.23	0.87	0.64	0.74	0.69	0.59	0	0.47	0
26.32	28.27	14.76	6.07	20.62	1.34	1.12	0	0.79	0	0.05	0	0.67
20.78	29.81	17.69	9.93	16.36	1.09	0.08	1.55	1.64	0.29	0.79	0	0
25.12	28.04	17.72	9.07	13.24	2.87	0.74	1.01	2.00	0.19	0	0	0
27.29	20.87	15.80	10.06	18.91	3.56	0.61	0.53	0.61	0.68	1.09	0	0
22.26	27.61	17.03	8.79	19.61	0	0.93	0	2.31	0.54	0.74	0	0.18
24.11	23.90	18.08	11.10	17.10	2.41	0.10	0	1.63	0.52	1.06	0	0
23.76	23.58	17.11	11.98	19.05	0.95	0.72	0.35	2.27	0	0.23	0	0
20.35	25.48	18.73	11.63	16.45	3.22	0.75	1.37	0	0.65	0.54	0	0.84
21.45	27.57	19.48	11.83	13.43	2.19	0.66	0	2.46	0.78	0	0.09	0.06
24.75	23.75	17.97	10.90	16.33	2.79	0	1.11	1.34	1.06	0	0	0
19.95	25.72	17.82	13.17	17.72	3.54	0.29	0	0	1.02	0.70	0.07	0
23.88	24.84	17.74	12.80	17.02	1.26	0.14	0.39	0.97	0.58	0.39	0	0
24.63	24.80	18.08	12.42	15.71	3.08	0.61	0	0	0	0.34	0	0.33
26.75	25.60	15.85	10.57	16.17	2.01	0	0.73	0	1.78	0.55	0	0
25.44	25.27	14.97	10.18	13.86	2.26	3.61	0.23	2.36	0	0.88	0	0.94
22.71	27.80	19.86	9.86	14.53	0.62	1.41	0.54	1.04	1.13	0.23	0.10	0.18
21.19	26.77	18.68	9.15	19.15	1.02	1.97	0.50	0.18	1.25	0.14	0	0
22.89	26.17	17.33	11.96	16.97	2.49	0	0.71	0	1.15	0.33	0	0
23.79	26.53	15.09	11.23	18.32	2.42	0.97	0	0.57	0.60	0.45	0	0
22.32	25.69	18.71	9.56	18.03	2.19	0	0	3.20	0	0.29	0	0
25.83	26.01	17.52	7.95	19.36	0.68	0	2.21	0.15	0.24	0	0	0
27.61	28.23	15.91	5.44	16.08	3.81	0	1.54	0.99	0.39	0	0	0
28.93	23.05	17.28	7.96	17.17	2.06	1.53	1.46	0.13	0	0.40	0	0
21.75	26.50	19.81	11.69	15.46	1.12	0	0	3.00	0	0.67	0	0
18.53	29.42	18.91	15.82	14.25	0	0	0	2.27	0	0.81	0	0
22.48	31.89	18.08	8.29	13.14	2.31	0	0	1.92	1.08	0	0.78	0
24.35	27.57	16.44	11.49	17.99	0.19	0	1.30	0	0.53	0.12	0	0
24.13	26.16	16.72	12.00	17.62	1.12	0.93	0.69	0.24	0	0.38	0	0
22.71	24.42	19.12	7.83	22.13	1.85	0	0	1.07	0	0.87	0	0
24.31	31.78	19.90	2.80	16.34	2.53	0.19	0	1.20	0.80	0.15	0	0
25.74	24.86	18.67	7.73	15.04	4.06	0	0.78	1.93	0.99	0	0	0.19

1

Spoiler!

Distance to:	Cluj_1
2.02960587	Romania_Crisana
2.84130252	Montenegrin
3.04052627	Romania_Transylvania
3.33953590	Romania_Moldavia_South
3.84378719	Bosniak_Sandzak
4.13018159	Romania_average
4.18029903	Romania_Oltenia
4.24754046	Romania_Maramures
4.32415310	Serb_south
4.40306711	Serb_central
4.73274762	Serb
4.75477655	Romania_Banat
5.42327392	Moldova_South
5.51511559	Bulgaria_Southwestern
5.54322109	Romania_Wallachia
5.63786307	Bulgaria_Northwestern
5.69806107	Romania_Dobruja
5.90419343	Romania_Moldavia_North
5.96614616	Székely
5.97984950	Serb_north
6.12618152	Romania_Muntenia
6.59921965	Hungarian_Transylvania
6.68878913	Bulgaria_average
7.28883393	Bulgaria_Northcentral
7.31704175	Croat_South

Distance to:	Cluj_1
2.02960587	Romania_Crisana
3.04052627	Romania_Transilvania
3.33953590	Romania_Moldova_Sud
4.13018159	Romania_average
4.18029903	Romania_Oltenia
4.24754046	Romania_Maramures
4.75477655	Romania_Banat
5.42327392	Moldova_Sud
5.69806107	Romania_Dobrogea
5.90419343	Romania_Moldova_Nord
5.96614616	Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
6.12618152	Romania_Muntenia
6.59921965	Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
7.11045006	Bulgarian
7.53011952	Moldova_average
7.60970433	Romania_Moldova_Csango
7.65100647	Moldova_Centru
7.69562213	Romania_Suceava_Botosani
10.03818709	Moldova_Gagauzia
10.31474672	Aromanian
10.85909296	Moldova_Nord
11.73765309	Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
14.78914129	Romania_Ukrainian
15.01061291	Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
15.19536113	Ukrainian_Carpathian

Distance to:	Cluj_1
2.12186239	Romania_Crisana_Arad
2.36266798	Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud
2.49455407	Romania_Transylvania_Alba
2.78217541	Romania_Transylvania_Mures
3.10741050	Romania_Transylvania_Brasov
3.21819825	Romania_Transylvania_Cluj
3.31707703	Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu
3.59345238	Romania_Crisana_Bihor
3.83794216	Romania_Maramures_SatuMare
3.85992228	Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin
4.33819087	Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara
4.56036183	Romania_Banat_Timis
5.01533648	Romania_Maramures_Maramures
6.19941126	Romania_Transylvania_Szekler
6.39718688	Romania_Crisana_Salaj
7.09685141	Romania_Transylvania_Covasna
9.00888450	Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
10.40853976	Romania_Transylvania_1/4Roma
11.73765309	Romania_Transylvania_Saxon

2

Spoiler!

Distance to:	Cluj_2
5.38269449	Romania_Crisana
5.91275739	Montenegrin
6.02019103	Romania_Transylvania
6.28163991	Bosniak_Sandzak
6.29709457	Romania_Moldavia_South
6.56440401	Romania_Oltenia
6.86823849	Romania_average
7.24338319	Bulgaria_Southwestern
7.29579331	Serb_south
7.35241457	Romania_Banat
7.58324469	Romania_Wallachia
7.62411962	Székely
7.72226003	Romania_Maramures
7.81283559	Romania_Dobruja
7.83384325	Serb_central
8.01970074	Romania_Muntenia
8.15774479	Hungarian_Transylvania
8.16207082	Bulgaria_Northwestern
8.17815383	Serb
8.35613547	Bulgaria_average
8.40367777	Moldova_South
8.69229544	Macedonian_North
8.76131269	Romania_Moldavia_North
8.79598204	Bulgaria_Northeastern
8.85897285	Bulgaria_Northcentral

Distance to:	Cluj_2
5.38269449	Romania_Crisana
6.02019103	Romania_Transilvania
6.29709457	Romania_Moldova_Sud
6.56440401	Romania_Oltenia
6.86823849	Romania_average
7.35241457	Romania_Banat
7.62411962	Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
7.72226003	Romania_Maramures
7.81283559	Romania_Dobrogea
8.01970074	Romania_Muntenia
8.15774479	Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
8.40367777	Moldova_Sud
8.52737943	Bulgarian
8.76131269	Romania_Moldova_Nord
9.61834185	Romania_Moldova_Csango
10.16100881	Romania_Suceava_Botosani
10.52560687	Moldova_Centru
10.52601539	Moldova_average
10.73857067	Aromanian
10.86103126	Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
11.10939692	Moldova_Gagauzia
13.64148086	Moldova_Nord
17.13820294	Romania_Ukrainian
17.46795351	Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
17.55302538	Ukrainian_Carpathian

Distance to:	Cluj_2
3.48955585	Romania_Crisana_Arad
5.28515846	Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud
5.39369076	Romania_Transylvania_Alba
5.44447426	Romania_Transylvania_Brasov
5.86330965	Romania_Transylvania_Mures
6.25080795	Romania_Crisana_Bihor
6.39187766	Romania_Transylvania_Cluj
6.60736710	Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin
6.76726680	Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu
6.81759488	Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara
6.98006447	Romania_Maramures_SatuMare
7.16850054	Romania_Banat_Timis
8.10399901	Romania_Transylvania_Szekler
8.12543537	Romania_Maramures_Maramures
9.79737210	Romania_Crisana_Salaj
9.98099193	Romania_Transylvania_Covasna
10.86103126	Romania_Transylvania_Saxon
11.08741629	Romania_Transylvania_1/4Roma
11.23869654	Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian

**aherne** · 02-25-2021, 07:20 AM

Funny thing these oracles detect is that Hungarians from Transylvania are closer to Romanians from Transylvania than latter are to those from Oltenia. This confirms with racial anthropology but one thing that shows their overall unreliability is lack of any "evidence" for Old Magyar genes in current Hungarians. Physically many Hungarians, especially in Transylvania where this ethnic group is almost entirely Romanian+Magyar in ancestry, show obvious signs of Magyar "VUR" phenotypes (Aryo-Uralo-Turanid). Are you guys believing latter had no influence in Hungarians' ethnogenesis? This is ridiculous! I read in a demographic study a while ago (what was their impact on native population) that their influence was in a range of 10-15% following a East-West cline (East having more, of course).

Latter findings confirm with my observations of Szekelers: most look like typical Romanians (70%), but a significant minority looks a bit distinct due to Magyar influences (25%) and a small minority is unpassable except among Finno-Ugrian nations (5%)