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    Quote Originally Posted by Sterling Archer View Post
    Highly unusual result from North-West Azerbaijan. The person is of Ayrum ancestry.
    This man's closest match is Azerbaijanis of Turkey, but even they are rather distant at 5.4.

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    Very interesting result.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sterling Archer View Post
    Highly unusual result from North-West Azerbaijan. The person is of Ayrum ancestry.
    This man's closest match is Azerbaijanis of Turkey, but even they are rather distant at 5.4.
    Low SNP kit. But I think with higher SNP it still would be rather atypical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyp View Post
    Low SNP kit. But I think with higher SNP it still would be rather atypical.
    Can't figure out why such a low Gedrosia together with high(for Azerbaijanis) Caucasus. Any idea?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sterling Archer View Post
    Can't figure out why such a low Gedrosia together with high(for Azerbaijanis) Caucasus. Any idea?

    It looks like the person is a straight mix of Turkmen+ native northeast anatolian to me. I don't know much about the settlement history of Yerevan Azeris though.

    Could also have some ancestry which he isn't aware of.

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    Azeris from Absheron Peninsula:

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    Absheron01,24.55,0.43,0.00,1.30,8.88,10.95,4.02,0.68,9.45,0.00,39.73,0.01
    Absheron02,24.27,0.00,0.30,0.00,2.69,13.02,4.29,1.99,14.86,0.00,38.23,0.35
    Absheron03,25.70,0.82,0.00,0.00,7.50,9.17,4.95,1.11,12.06,0.12,38.08,0.48
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    Azeris from Absheron Peninsula:

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    Absheron01,24.55,0.43,0.00,1.30,8.88,10.95,4.02,0.68,9.45,0.00,39.73,0.01
    Absheron02,24.27,0.00,0.30,0.00,2.69,13.02,4.29,1.99,14.86,0.00,38.23,0.35
    Absheron03,25.70,0.82,0.00,0.00,7.50,9.17,4.95,1.11,12.06,0.12,38.08,0.48
    Is there any information about these people's background?
    Only the first one seems to be Azerbaijani, even his results are strange.

    Distance to: Absheron01
    5.44830249 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
    6.21235865 Talysh_Azerbaijan
    6.30157917 Azerbaijani_Iran
    6.45258863 Kurd_Kurmanji
    6.64939847 Zaza
    6.77451843 Kurd_Adygea
    6.81865089 Azerbaijani
    7.00015714 Azerbaijani_Turkey
    7.02066236 Yazidi
    8.14816544 Iranian
    8.43450058 Kurd_Sorani
    8.69783881 Udi_Azerbaijan
    9.68836932 Lur_Iran
    9.79608085 Iranian_Fars

    Absheron03 is almost certainly Kurd.
    Absheron02's results are strange. Very low to no east Asia. Although high North Euro is similar to Azerbaijanis than Kurds, but due to absence of EA we get very distant results:

    Distance to: Absheron02
    8.41966745 Kurd_Sorani
    8.82977916 Talysh_Azerbaijan
    8.92191123 Kurd_Adygea
    9.03586188 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
    9.10379591 Kurd_Kurmanji
    9.19872817 Iranian_Fars
    9.34484350 Yazidi
    9.40912855 Azerbaijani_Iran
    9.76616097 Zaza
    9.87385436 Iraq_Turkmen
    9.89376571 Iranian
    9.99694953 Azerbaijani
    10.56926204 Lur_Iran


    Distance to: Absheron03
    4.46024663 Yazidi
    4.78679433 Kurd_Kurmanji
    4.91692994 Kurd_Adygea
    5.16392293 Talysh_Azerbaijan
    5.45497021 Kurd_Sorani
    5.79039722 Iranian
    5.90320252 Azerbaijani_Iran
    5.93121404 Iranian_Fars
    6.03640622 Zaza
    6.50690403 Lur_Iran
    6.93416902 Azerbaijani
    Last edited by Sterling Archer; 02-24-2021 at 11:43 AM.

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    As a follow up:
    Target: Absheron02
    Distance: 1.9326% / 1.93263206
    27.5 Kubachi_Dagestan
    22.5 Iran_Mazandaran
    18.4 Kuwait2
    15.5 Georgian_Svan
    11.3 Nuristani
    3.8 Georgian_Gurian
    0.9 Sandawe_He
    0.1 Somali

    Distance to: Absheron02
    4.85300618 49.20% Iran_Arab + 50.80% Lezgin
    4.89735378 56.40% Iran_Arab + 43.60% Kubachi_Dagestan
    5.11009531 54.40% Iran_Arab + 45.60% Lak
    5.25571642 72.60% Kurd_Sorani + 27.40% Tabasaran
    5.31275103 25.80% Kaitag_Dagestan + 74.20% Kurd_Sorani
    5.33109740 44.40% Avar + 55.60% Iran_Arab
    5.39504428 26.60% Avar + 73.40% Kurd_Sorani
    5.47317863 72.60% Kurd_Sorani + 27.40% Lak
    5.50657682 55.00% Iran_Arab + 45.00% Tabasaran
    5.54643807 25.60% Kubachi_Dagestan + 74.40% Kurd_Sorani
    5.54873545 68.40% Kurd_Sorani + 31.60% Lezgin
    5.65459706 41.40% Dargin + 58.60% Iran_Arab
    5.65760731 23.80% Dargin + 76.20% Kurd_Sorani
    5.72933270 56.80% Iran_Arab + 43.20% Kaitag_Dagestan
    5.73699069 43.80% Iraqi_Arab + 56.20% Lezgin


    Seems to be a mix between Dagestani (probably not Dagestani Azeri) and Iranian.

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    His surname is Dağıstanlı which means Dagestanian. But he is distant to everyone, very low Gedrosia and high Caucasus.


    Population
    Gedrosia 14.25 Pct
    Siberian 2.74 Pct
    Northwest_African -
    Southeast_Asian 2.06 Pct
    Atlantic_Med 5.7 Pct
    North_European 15.93 Pct
    South_Asian 0.96 Pct
    East_African -
    Southwest_Asian 4.7 Pct
    East_Asian 1.62 Pct
    Caucasus 52.02 Pct
    Sub_Saharan -

    Distance to: dagistanli
    6.34591207 Ossetian_South
    6.51265691 Ossetian
    7.14527816 Adyghe
    7.72047926 Abkhazian
    8.58054777 Circassian
    8.72985109 Karachay
    9.43144210 Abazin
    9.67221795 Georgian
    9.71771578 Balkar
    10.51455658 Georgian_Gurian
    10.82475866 Georgian_Svan
    11.18987042 Turk_Ahiska
    11.46853522 Kabardin
    11.49927824 Ingush
    12.51228996 Georgian_Mingrelian
    12.81688340 Georgian_Imereti
    13.54002216 Chechen
    13.86327883 Tsakhur_Azerbaijan
    13.95471247 Kumyk
    14.12244313 Turk_East_Black_Sea
    14.43588238 Turk_East
    14.65760212 Laz
    14.72997624 Georgian_Turkey
    14.81268375 Udi_Azerbaijan
    14.97907207 Hemshin

    Target: dagistanli
    Distance: 2.8070% / 2.80697772 | ADC: 0.25x RC

    71.1 Georgian_Gurian
    16.9 Nogai
    10.4 Pomak_Greece
    1.6 Cambodians


    Target: dagistanli
    Distance: 4.4735% / 4.47347632 | ADC: 0.5x RC

    46.0 Ossetian
    44.4 Abkhazian
    9.6 Greek_Icaria




    His match

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    Gedrosia 14.69 Pct
    Siberian 2.87 Pct
    Northwest_African -
    Southeast_Asian -
    Atlantic_Med 4.55 Pct
    North_European 15.65 Pct
    South_Asian -
    East_African -
    Southwest_Asian 5.14 Pct
    East_Asian 3.28 Pct
    Caucasus 53.83 Pct
    Sub_Saharan -


    Distance to: hikmet
    6.34380800 Ossetian_South
    6.69307851 Abkhazian
    7.54034482 Ossetian
    8.42697455 Adyghe
    9.06994487 Georgian
    9.22352427 Georgian_Gurian
    9.28184788 Georgian_Svan
    9.84052336 Circassian
    10.05399423 Karachay
    10.97140374 Balkar
    10.99757701 Georgian_Mingrelian
    11.02689893 Turk_Ahiska
    11.06049728 Abazin
    11.60827291 Georgian_Imereti
    12.67970426 Ingush
    13.26154591 Kabardin
    13.73385234 Georgian_Turkey
    14.00695185 Turk_East_Black_Sea
    14.13924326 Laz
    14.55223351 Hemshin
    14.68902311 Georgian_Adjara
    14.80306387 Chechen
    14.95532012 Tsakhur_Azerbaijan
    15.37495366 Turk_East
    15.38100452 Kumyk


    Target: hikmet
    Distance: 2.4918% / 2.49183447

    85.5 Georgian_Mingrelian
    10.0 Latvian
    2.4 Nivh
    2.1 Negidal


    Target: hikmet
    Distance: 3.0515% / 3.05153975 | ADC: 0.25x RC

    75.8 Georgian_Gurian
    21.0 Nogai
    3.2 Lithuanian

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    Quote Originally Posted by RatCat View Post
    His surname is Dağıstanlı which means Dagestanian. But he is distant to everyone, very low Gedrosia and high Caucasus.


    Population
    Gedrosia 14.25 Pct
    Siberian 2.74 Pct
    Northwest_African -
    Southeast_Asian 2.06 Pct
    Atlantic_Med 5.7 Pct
    North_European 15.93 Pct
    South_Asian 0.96 Pct
    East_African -
    Southwest_Asian 4.7 Pct
    East_Asian 1.62 Pct
    Caucasus 52.02 Pct
    Sub_Saharan -
    Maybe tatar grandparent(1/4) + Georgian/Abkaz(3/4)? Maybe even (eastern) Russian grandparent.
    In any case, his Caucasus is too high for Dagestan. People rarely score Caucasus higher that 40 over there.

    Distance to: Dagestani
    3.21674092 81.60% Georgian_Mingrelian + 18.40% Tatar_Mishar
    3.32920790 81.00% Georgian_Mingrelian + 19.00% Tatar_Kazan
    3.50927020 18.80% Bashkir_North + 81.20% Georgian_Mingrelian
    3.51211753 17.40% Chuvash + 82.60% Georgian_Mingrelian
    3.55212646 83.80% Georgian_Gurian + 16.20% Tatar_Kazan
    3.55321202 16.00% Bashkir_North + 84.00% Georgian_Gurian
    3.59158665 83.80% Georgian_Mingrelian + 16.20% Russian_Ural
    3.59352048 85.20% Georgian_Mingrelian + 14.80% Veps
    3.60744000 14.80% Chuvash + 85.20% Georgian_Gurian
    3.61458553 84.60% Georgian_Mingrelian + 15.40% Russian_Arkhangelsk
    3.61571076 83.60% Georgian_Mingrelian + 16.40% Komi
    3.63314693 84.40% Georgian_Gurian + 15.60% Tatar_Mishar
    3.73709915 83.40% Georgian_Mingrelian + 16.60% Mordovian
    3.75610385 84.20% Georgian_Mingrelian + 15.80% Russian_Kostroma
    3.76987850 14.00% Finnish_East + 86.00% Georgian_Mingrelian
    3.77248967 85.60% Georgian_Mingrelian + 14.40% Karelian
    3.77371814 84.80% Georgian_Mingrelian + 15.20% North_Russian
    3.82908598 81.60% Georgian_Gurian + 18.40% Lipka_Tatar
    3.83318057 86.00% Georgian_Gurian + 14.00% Mari

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sterling Archer View Post
    Maybe tatar grandparent(1/4) + Georgian/Abkaz(3/4)? Maybe even (eastern) Russian grandparent.
    In any case, his Caucasus is too high for Dagestan. People rarely score Caucasus higher that 40 over there.

    Distance to: Dagestani
    3.21674092 81.60% Georgian_Mingrelian + 18.40% Tatar_Mishar
    3.32920790 81.00% Georgian_Mingrelian + 19.00% Tatar_Kazan
    3.50927020 18.80% Bashkir_North + 81.20% Georgian_Mingrelian
    3.51211753 17.40% Chuvash + 82.60% Georgian_Mingrelian
    3.55212646 83.80% Georgian_Gurian + 16.20% Tatar_Kazan
    3.55321202 16.00% Bashkir_North + 84.00% Georgian_Gurian
    3.59158665 83.80% Georgian_Mingrelian + 16.20% Russian_Ural
    3.59352048 85.20% Georgian_Mingrelian + 14.80% Veps
    3.60744000 14.80% Chuvash + 85.20% Georgian_Gurian
    3.61458553 84.60% Georgian_Mingrelian + 15.40% Russian_Arkhangelsk
    3.61571076 83.60% Georgian_Mingrelian + 16.40% Komi
    3.63314693 84.40% Georgian_Gurian + 15.60% Tatar_Mishar
    3.73709915 83.40% Georgian_Mingrelian + 16.60% Mordovian
    3.75610385 84.20% Georgian_Mingrelian + 15.80% Russian_Kostroma
    3.76987850 14.00% Finnish_East + 86.00% Georgian_Mingrelian
    3.77248967 85.60% Georgian_Mingrelian + 14.40% Karelian
    3.77371814 84.80% Georgian_Mingrelian + 15.20% North_Russian
    3.82908598 81.60% Georgian_Gurian + 18.40% Lipka_Tatar
    3.83318057 86.00% Georgian_Gurian + 14.00% Mari
    Yes probably he got that surname from his 1 grandfather from Dagestan, probably nogay, tatar etc.

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