Dodecad k12b West & Central Asian results Vol 4.

[Kaspias]

Nogai from Ankara Şereflikoçhisar Doğankaya village

The village belongs to the Cemboyluk tribe, they are probably from somewhere around the modern-day Melitopol.

[Nanushka]

I think you are confusing something here. You are talking about Pannonian Avars, Turkic or Eruasian group not related to Caucasian Avars, who untill relatively recently weren't called Avars at all.
if you are interested, here is the info:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pannonian_Avars

are u just kidding me?? Who are you? How can you just challenge me with your little info and some crap from wiki?? sorry but I dont read or take wiki as a source. Dont you dare to write to me, an Avar from Dagestan who knows the language and have been researching about her roots and culture for years! You have no idea about us and our culture but you think you have got the right to talk lol. Am I talking about Azeris? What you wrote is laughable about the name Avar and as an Azeri you should be ashamed of yourself to not support me on this discussion and implicitly supporting the IE theory

Higher Europen component doesn't mean Avars were in Europe or vise versa. That component is not really European in origin. It originated somewhere in the Eurasian steppes, and sipped into Caucasus later. There are ethnic groups in Eurasia (Chuvash, Tatar for example) with much higher percentage of North Europe than any Avar or many europeans.
The fact that you have a cousin in Iceland means absolutely nothing. One guy in Nakchiavan, Azerbaijan ended up having distant cousins in Scotland and UK. Again, doesn't mean what you think it means. Just that some people moved around.

Evidence? Dont jump in and speak without evidence with me. It was for Leto in the first place who is researching as well and you are commenting only with your feelings. I always talk with evidence and my whole results show how we are consistent with the migration routes of Avars as I can see all the Avars have more or less the same results in a DNA project group that I am member of. What are you trying to do? Who will applause you trying to challenge me? This is ridiculous and humiliating on your account. Whatever I write here has got proof and they are results of long research, not hearsay or wishful thinking about Avars like in your case! I am an academic and raised in that ethnicity so either read what I posted above in links or keep quiet before you research and learn well

oh and a question for Kaspias: why did you thumb him up so quickly? What do you know about Avars and their origins? or is he just your good friend?

[Leto]

Buusra, he is right though. Those medieval Avars are not the same thing as the modern Avars in Dagestan. I'm not interested in this debate and I advise you to not try and derail the thread any further.

[Nanushka]

Buusra, he is right though. Those medieval Avars are not the same thing as the modern Avars in Dagestan. I'm not interested in this debate and I advise you to not try and derail the thread any further.

DERAIL? LOL
you have just disappoint me so much. Any clear evidence, Leto? Tell me why he is right. Did you might as well have a look at the academic articles that I have submitted? You cant submit ANY evidence about whatever shit he wrote. So you are also making comments out of your feelings and for the sake of IE theory. And this means that I will not trust you any longer either

sure, end of story. I am not interested this debate with you either, but this doesnt change the truth! wait and see

[Mejgusu]

Until it stays in a nice atmosphere, won’t get too off topic and won’t be a long talk, every discussion is ok. A bit diversity is ok

[Leto]

DERAIL? LOL
you just disappoint me so much. Any clear evidence, Leto? Tell me why he is right. Did you might as well have a look at the academic articles that I have submitted? You cant submit ANY evidence about whatever shit he wrote. So you are also making comments out of your feelings and this means that I will not trust you any longer either

sure, end of story. I am not interested this debate with YOU either, but this doesnt change the truth!

You are overreacting to nothing. That's super female of you! We are serious-ass men here, maybe except one teenager Look, we aren't here to debate those things. I can respect your opinion and I don't even have a dog in this fight. The Avars are Northeastern Caucasian, they are neither Turkic nor Indo-European. But they are related to Europeans indirectly of course.

[Altaylı]

I am 100% purebred serious man

[Sterling Archer]

You are overreacting to nothing. That's super female of you! We are serious-ass men here, maybe except one teenager Look, we aren't here to debate those things. I can respect your opinion and I don't even have a dog in this fight. The Avars are Northeastern Caucasian, they are neither Turkic nor Indo-European. But they are related to Europeans indirectly of course.

To be honest, I am also surprised by such a strong reaction. I don't have a dog in this fight(didn't know there was a fight) either, I simply pointed out some historical facts. Goes to show, you have to be careful with some people

On an unrelated issue, I received some "reputation" with some comments to some of my posts. As I am new to this forum, I don't know how to reply. Can anyone help me with that?

[Leto]

On an unrelated issue, I received some "reputation" with some comments to some of my posts. As I am new to this forum, I don't know how to reply. Can anyone help me with that?

You can reply by clicking on the little star below.

[Sterling Archer]

On any post of that user? Because I don't see any star under my own post that received said reputation.