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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Nah. From Vahaduo, reduced to only 3 populations:


    Target: Balkan_Gypsy
    Distance: 0.8493% / 0.84933619 | R3P
    49.6 Greek_Thessaly
    34.9 North_Kannadi
    15.5 Armenian

    I guess Kannadi is Kannada? That's a Dravidian language spoken in the state of Karnataka, Southern India. However, the Indian part of the Gypsy ethnogenesis is said to have come from low-caste tribes of Northwestern India. So I guess they were racially Dravidian with little to no Steppe.
    The ancestors of the Gypsies came to Southeastern Europe from Northern India through Pakistan, Iran and Anatolia, as far as I know.
    Yes, Kannadi is irrelevant. The exact Indian community they come from are the Chamar, who are on K13 updated.

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    Kit N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan
    1 24.65 26.92 15.98 7.88 20.35 0.82 0.86 1.50 0.21 0.71 0.13 0 0
    2 21.09 25.53 18.49 13.94 15.73 2.99 0 0 0.27 1.17 0.77 0 0
    3 30.41 27.05 20.44 6.95 10.68 0 0.86 1.19 0.29 1.20 0 0.93 0

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    N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan
    23.53 23.76 18.21 11.00 19.10 2.17 0 0 1.32 0.37 0.12 0 0.42
    18.25 27.74 20.29 11.12 17.52 1.91 0.40 0.90 0.63 1.24 0 0 0
    24.06 28.12 17.87 5.65 19.29 1.76 0 1.51 0.37 1.04 0 0.33 0
    21.77 24.15 18.41 12.23 18.17 2.49 0.97 0.05 0.85 0.90 0 0 0
    23.99 25.36 15.22 15.57 13.99 1.91 1.38 0 2.57 0 0 0 0
    21.71 25.42 17.45 9.79 19.16 2.28 1.14 0.44 1.47 0.82 0.33 0 0
    20.09 26.81 19.78 11.97 18.06 1.00 1.80 0 0.24 0 0.24 0 0
    23.27 26.87 20.21 8.86 16.34 1.91 0 0.52 0 0.92 0.59 0.51 0
    20.86 28.67 19.06 9.41 17.83 1.64 0.28 1.50 0.19 0 0.13 0.43 0
    20.86 28.54 16.38 13.48 15.02 2.32 0.37 0 2.60 0 0 0 0.42
    21.43 24.08 16.80 12.91 20.21 3.76 0.09 0 0.35 0.08 0.29 0 0
    21.78 24.90 16.48 11.17 18.52 3.16 0.41 0.89 2.64 0 0.06 0 0
    21.95 23.73 16.39 9.97 20.92 3.84 0.54 0.22 0.76 1.21 0.47 0 0
    23.81 25.88 18.64 12.16 15.14 1.30 0 1.15 1.33 0 0.59 0 0
    24.53 25.10 18.74 10.33 17.26 1.30 0 0.91 1.60 0 0.16 0 0.08
    24.75 24.97 16.15 10.82 15.93 3.22 1.56 1.04 1.40 0 0.16 0 0
    23.84 24.14 18.67 9.75 18.49 1.05 2.52 0.07 0 0.89 0.54 0 0
    15.36 23.25 17.19 12.10 23.07 2.37 3.13 0.92 0.49 1.40 0.73 0 0
    23.76 23.58 17.11 11.98 19.05 0.95 0.72 0.35 2.27 0 0.23 0 0
    24.71 28.90 14.90 13.53 15.24 1.22 0 0.38 0.72 0 0.39 0 0

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    Kit N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan
    1 22.32 23.43 17.89 14.79 15.03 1.54 1.77 0.71 0 1.45 0.69 0.39 0
    2 28.01 26.21 14.84 10.98 15.81 0.63 0 0.08 2.14 1.01 0.29 0 0
    3 22.96 26.89 17.60 12.74 13.30 2.49 0 0.74 2.18 1.11 0 0 0

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    N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan
    23.53 23.76 18.21 11.00 19.10 2.17 0 0 1.32 0.37 0.12 0 0.42
    18.25 27.74 20.29 11.12 17.52 1.91 0.40 0.90 0.63 1.24 0 0 0
    24.06 28.12 17.87 5.65 19.29 1.76 0 1.51 0.37 1.04 0 0.33 0
    21.77 24.15 18.41 12.23 18.17 2.49 0.97 0.05 0.85 0.90 0 0 0
    23.99 25.36 15.22 15.57 13.99 1.91 1.38 0 2.57 0 0 0 0
    21.71 25.42 17.45 9.79 19.16 2.28 1.14 0.44 1.47 0.82 0.33 0 0
    20.09 26.81 19.78 11.97 18.06 1.00 1.80 0 0.24 0 0.24 0 0
    23.27 26.87 20.21 8.86 16.34 1.91 0 0.52 0 0.92 0.59 0.51 0
    20.86 28.67 19.06 9.41 17.83 1.64 0.28 1.50 0.19 0 0.13 0.43 0
    20.86 28.54 16.38 13.48 15.02 2.32 0.37 0 2.60 0 0 0 0.42
    21.43 24.08 16.80 12.91 20.21 3.76 0.09 0 0.35 0.08 0.29 0 0
    21.78 24.90 16.48 11.17 18.52 3.16 0.41 0.89 2.64 0 0.06 0 0
    21.95 23.73 16.39 9.97 20.92 3.84 0.54 0.22 0.76 1.21 0.47 0 0
    23.81 25.88 18.64 12.16 15.14 1.30 0 1.15 1.33 0 0.59 0 0
    24.53 25.10 18.74 10.33 17.26 1.30 0 0.91 1.60 0 0.16 0 0.08
    24.75 24.97 16.15 10.82 15.93 3.22 1.56 1.04 1.40 0 0.16 0 0
    23.84 24.14 18.67 9.75 18.49 1.05 2.52 0.07 0 0.89 0.54 0 0
    15.36 23.25 17.19 12.10 23.07 2.37 3.13 0.92 0.49 1.40 0.73 0 0
    23.76 23.58 17.11 11.98 19.05 0.95 0.72 0.35 2.27 0 0.23 0 0
    24.71 28.90 14.90 13.53 15.24 1.22 0 0.38 0.72 0 0.39 0 0
    24.65 26.92 15.98 7.88 20.35 0.82 0.86 1.50 0.21 0.71 0.13 0 0
    21.09 25.53 18.49 13.94 15.73 2.99 0 0 0.27 1.17 0.77 0 0
    30.41 27.05 20.44 6.95 10.68 0 0.86 1.19 0.29 1.20 0 0.93 0

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    Kit N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan
    1 22.94 26.83 18.61 10.62 16.89 2.63 0 0.74 0.12 0.11 0.52 0 0
    2 26.22 24.09 16.39 9.68 18.55 1.38 1.81 0.27 0.33 1.28 0 0 0

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    N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan
    23.53 23.76 18.21 11.00 19.10 2.17 0 0 1.32 0.37 0.12 0 0.42
    18.25 27.74 20.29 11.12 17.52 1.91 0.40 0.90 0.63 1.24 0 0 0
    24.06 28.12 17.87 5.65 19.29 1.76 0 1.51 0.37 1.04 0 0.33 0
    21.77 24.15 18.41 12.23 18.17 2.49 0.97 0.05 0.85 0.90 0 0 0
    23.99 25.36 15.22 15.57 13.99 1.91 1.38 0 2.57 0 0 0 0
    21.71 25.42 17.45 9.79 19.16 2.28 1.14 0.44 1.47 0.82 0.33 0 0
    20.09 26.81 19.78 11.97 18.06 1.00 1.80 0 0.24 0 0.24 0 0
    23.27 26.87 20.21 8.86 16.34 1.91 0 0.52 0 0.92 0.59 0.51 0
    20.86 28.67 19.06 9.41 17.83 1.64 0.28 1.50 0.19 0 0.13 0.43 0
    20.86 28.54 16.38 13.48 15.02 2.32 0.37 0 2.60 0 0 0 0.42
    21.43 24.08 16.80 12.91 20.21 3.76 0.09 0 0.35 0.08 0.29 0 0
    21.78 24.90 16.48 11.17 18.52 3.16 0.41 0.89 2.64 0 0.06 0 0
    21.95 23.73 16.39 9.97 20.92 3.84 0.54 0.22 0.76 1.21 0.47 0 0
    23.81 25.88 18.64 12.16 15.14 1.30 0 1.15 1.33 0 0.59 0 0
    24.53 25.10 18.74 10.33 17.26 1.30 0 0.91 1.60 0 0.16 0 0.08
    24.75 24.97 16.15 10.82 15.93 3.22 1.56 1.04 1.40 0 0.16 0 0
    23.84 24.14 18.67 9.75 18.49 1.05 2.52 0.07 0 0.89 0.54 0 0
    15.36 23.25 17.19 12.10 23.07 2.37 3.13 0.92 0.49 1.40 0.73 0 0
    23.76 23.58 17.11 11.98 19.05 0.95 0.72 0.35 2.27 0 0.23 0 0
    24.71 28.90 14.90 13.53 15.24 1.22 0 0.38 0.72 0 0.39 0 0
    24.65 26.92 15.98 7.88 20.35 0.82 0.86 1.50 0.21 0.71 0.13 0 0
    21.09 25.53 18.49 13.94 15.73 2.99 0 0 0.27 1.17 0.77 0 0
    30.41 27.05 20.44 6.95 10.68 0 0.86 1.19 0.29 1.20 0 0.93 0
    22.32 23.43 17.89 14.79 15.03 1.54 1.77 0.71 0 1.45 0.69 0.39 0
    28.01 26.21 14.84 10.98 15.81 0.63 0 0.08 2.14 1.01 0.29 0 0
    22.96 26.89 17.60 12.74 13.30 2.49 0 0.74 2.18 1.11 0 0 0

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Target: Balkan_Gypsy
    Distance: 0.8493% / 0.84933619 | R3P
    49.6 Greek_Thessaly
    34.9 North_Kannadi
    15.5 Armenian

    I guess Kannadi is Kannada? That's a Dravidian language spoken in the state of Karnataka, Southern India. However, the Indian part of the Gypsy ethnogenesis is said to have come from low-caste tribes of Northwestern India. So I guess they were racially Dravidian with little to no Steppe.
    The ancestors of the Gypsies came to Southeastern Europe from Northern India through Pakistan, Iran and Anatolia, as far as I know.
    Sample is absurd! They should calculate distances from home region (Punjab, Rajasthan) rather than some Indian province far away. Looks wise their ancestry should be more NW Indian than European but not that much (60% vs 40%).

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    Quote Originally Posted by aherne View Post
    Sample is absurd! They should calculate distances from home region (Punjab, Rajasthan) rather than some Indian province far away. Looks wise their ancestry should be more NW Indian than European but not that much (60% vs 40%).
    Nothing absurd about it. It's just a model, an oracle. But it does show their APPROXIMATE admixture. I mean go find me another ethnic group which can be modeled like that.

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    This sample is very Northern. See his low East Med and lack of Red Sea. Also 30% NA, 20% West Med and 27% Baltic is quite high too.
    30.41 27.05 20.44 6.95 10.68 0 0.86 1.19 0.29 1.20 0 0.93 0

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    This sample is very Northern. See his low East Med and lack of Red Sea. Also 30% NA, 20% West Med and 27% Baltic is quite high too.
    And? There are others who are on the contrary very Southern for the county. In this case, it must mean that at some point they've mixed with assimilated Hungarians or Swabians, given the location.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ion Basescul View Post
    And? There are others who are on the contrary very Southern for the county. In this case, it must mean that at some point they've mixed with assimilated Hungarians or Swabians, given the location.
    Just pointed that out. If I start pointing out the most Southern ones, people would think I'm taking the piss out of Romanians or something like that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Just pointed that out. If I start pointing out the most Southern ones, people would think I'm taking the piss out of Romanians or something like that
    Such people are mentally ill. There's nothing wrong with deviating from the average in either direction.

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