Dodecad k12b West & Central Asian results Vol 4.

**~~RatCat~~** · 03-22-2021, 08:04 PM

Another Dagestani. I dont know the exact ethnicity.

https://ibb.co/QYTKPNP (Don't quote the photos pls)
https://i.ibb.co/BN3n7V9/muraddd.png (Don't quote the photos pls)

Y-DNA: J2-Y32689

Y-DNA map:

Population
Gedrosia 25.46 Pct
Siberian 1.81 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 5.16 Pct
North_European 29.22 Pct
South_Asian 1.63 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian -
East_Asian -
Caucasus 36.72 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Murad
3.57533215 Dargin
3.59386978 Kaitag_Dagestan
4.77122626 Avar
4.98247930 Tabasaran
5.00009000 Kubachi_Dagestan
5.46761374 Lak
9.18379007 Lezgin
11.22449108 Chechen
12.48539947 Kumyk
13.29492008 Tsakhur_Azerbaijan
14.53340291 Ingush
15.36642769 Kabardin
15.60187168 Balkar
16.65019219 Karachay
16.81647109 Abazin
17.10488234 Circassian
17.64332735 Yagnobi
17.88849910 Adyghe
17.92010603 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
18.50380772 Ossetian
20.77194261 Nogai
21.22735499 Ossetian_South
21.41104621 Tajik_Lowland
22.11291478 Pamiri_Rushan
22.16435652 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain

Target: Murad
Distance: 2.1226% / 2.12262003 | ADC: 0.25x RC
85.9 Kubachi_Dagestan
7.2 Latvian
6.9 Dargin

Target: Murad
Distance: 2.6626% / 2.66257042 | ADC: 0.5x RC
65.4 Dargin
31.1 Kaitag_Dagestan
3.5 Latvian

Target: Murad
Distance: 2.1267% / 2.12667466 | R2P
92.5 Kubachi_Dagestan
7.5 Latvian

**Leto** · 03-22-2021, 08:46 PM

Originally Posted by RatCat

Another Dagestani. I dont know the exact ethnicity.

I think I know that account, posted the guy sometime last year. But I'm surprised how non-Euro he looks! I mean with that percentage of North European he is still as dark and woggy as many Azerbaijanis who score only a fraction of that.

**Kaspias** · 03-23-2021, 02:58 PM

1/4 Turkish from Langaza, Greece
1/4 Turkish from Drama, Greece
1/4 Turkish from Novi Pazar Shumen, Bulgaria
1/4 Turkish from Bursa Karacabey, Turkey

Y: E-V13 (Novi Pazar)
MT: U5a2 (Langaza)

Code:

Admix Results (sorted):

#	Population	Percent
1	Caucasus	29.25
2	North_European	22.69
3	Atlantic_Med	18.3
4	Gedrosia	9.82
5	Southwest_Asian	7.41
6	Siberian	4.46
7	East_Asian	3.56
8	Northwest_African	2.64
9	South_Asian	1.87

Single Population Sharing:

#	Population (source)	Distance
1	Greek (Dodecad)	14.87
2	Bulgarian (Dodecad)	14.9
3	O_Italian (Dodecad)	16.02
4	Bulgarians (Yunusbayev)	16.08
5	Romanians (Behar)	16.2
6	Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar)	16.98
7	Ashkenazi (Dodecad)	17.71
8	C_Italian (Dodecad)	18.24
9	S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad)	18.29
10	Sicilian (Dodecad)	18.51
11	Nogais (Yunusbayev)	20.06
12	Tuscan (HGDP)	20.24
13	Turkish (Dodecad)	20.6
14	TSI30 (Metspalu)	20.89
15	Turks (Behar)	21.93
16	Sephardic_Jews (Behar)	21.94
17	N_Italian (Dodecad)	23.4
18	Kumyks (Yunusbayev)	23.5
19	Morocco_Jews (Behar)	23.51
20	Turkmens (Yunusbayev)	24.73

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

#	 	Primary Population (source)	Secondary Population (source)	Distance
1	 	61.2%	Bulgarians (Yunusbayev)	+	38.8%	Turkmens (Yunusbayev)	@	4.5
2	 	66.9%	Turks (Behar)	+	33.1%	Norwegian (Dodecad)	@	5.03
3	 	63.3%	Bulgarian (Dodecad)	+	36.7%	Turkmens (Yunusbayev)	@	5.09
4	 	68.4%	Turkish (Dodecad)	+	31.6%	Norwegian (Dodecad)	@	5.25
5	 	66.8%	Turks (Behar)	+	33.2%	Swedish (Dodecad)	@	5.28
6	 	68.3%	Turkish (Dodecad)	+	31.7%	Swedish (Dodecad)	@	5.29
7	 	60.8%	Turks (Behar)	+	39.2%	German (Dodecad)	@	5.43
8	 	61.3%	Romanians (Behar)	+	38.7%	Turkmens (Yunusbayev)	@	5.56
9	 	56.2%	O_Italian (Dodecad)	+	43.8%	Nogais (Yunusbayev)	@	5.57
10	 	63.4%	Turks (Behar)	+	36.6%	Dutch (Dodecad)	@	5.87
11	 	62.4%	Turkish (Dodecad)	+	37.6%	German (Dodecad)	@	5.89
12	 	67.6%	Greek (Dodecad)	+	32.4%	Tajiks (Yunusbayev)	@	5.9
13	 	62.2%	Turks (Behar)	+	37.8%	Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad)	@	6.09
14	 	57.3%	Turks (Behar)	+	42.7%	Hungarians (Behar)	@	6.1
15	 	65.4%	Turks (Behar)	+	34.6%	British_Isles (Dodecad)	@	6.11
16	 	66.1%	Turks (Behar)	+	33.9%	Orkney (1000Genomes)	@	6.26
17	 	64.5%	Turks (Behar)	+	35.5%	CEU30 (1000Genomes)	@	6.27
18	 	64.6%	Turks (Behar)	+	35.4%	English (Dodecad)	@	6.29
19	 	70.4%	Greek (Dodecad)	+	29.6%	Uzbeks (Behar)	@	6.33
20	 	64.3%	Turks (Behar)	+	35.7%	Kent (1000Genomes)	@	6.39

Code:

Distance to:	Onur
4.97869461	Turk_Trakya
5.63417252	Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
8.13678684	Turk_Deliorman
9.03769329	Turk_Makedonya
10.36411598	Bulgarian_Thrace
10.96883312	Greek_Peloponnese
11.44028846	Turk_Northwest
11.73421067	Greek_Thessaloniki
11.98999166	Greek_Lemnos
12.01151115	Greek_Thrace
12.03671051	Greek_Central
12.07067521	Moldavian_Gagauz
12.14539831	Greek_Thessaly
12.47398493	Bulgarian_East
12.54236022	Greek_Athens
12.64121830	Greek_Foca
12.67192566	Italian_Apulia
12.95857631	Greek_Macedonia
13.10667006	Pomak_Greece
13.35914294	Albanian
14.03220581	Turk_West_BlackSea
14.20507656	Turk_Southwest
14.24535012	Albanian_Kosovo
14.69701330	Bulgarian_Central
14.93055257	Italian_Abruzzo

Distance to:	Onur
2.17511005	35.60% Moldavian_Center + 64.40% Turk_Northwest
2.21555726	41.00% Moldavian_Center + 59.00% Turk_Southwest
2.23510459	37.00% Moldavian_North + 63.00% Turk_Southwest
2.26242721	34.20% Serb + 65.80% Turk_Northwest
2.28362604	31.20% Bosnian + 68.80% Turk_Northwest
2.28558089	32.00% Moldavian_North + 68.00% Turk_Northwest
2.29104714	30.00% Croat + 70.00% Turk_Northwest
2.29296500	59.00% Turk_Deliorman + 41.00% Turk_Northwest
2.30477653	28.20% Turk_Northwest + 71.80% Turk_Trakya
2.30625312	34.80% Croat + 65.20% Turk_Southwest
2.32128286	36.20% Bosnian + 63.80% Turk_Southwest
2.33798343	64.20% Turk_Deliorman + 35.80% Turk_Southwest
2.35057271	23.80% Turk_Southwest + 76.20% Turk_Trakya
2.37688290	19.60% Turk_South + 80.40% Turk_Trakya
2.40140243	39.40% Serb + 60.60% Turk_Southwest
2.41598509	31.80% Hungarian_Alfold + 68.20% Turk_Southwest
2.42017871	68.80% Turk_Southwest + 31.20% Ukrainian_Ivano-Frankivsk
2.42114969	31.80% Slovenian + 68.20% Turk_Southwest
2.42319368	31.40% Hungarian_North + 68.60% Turk_Southwest
2.46233677	32.60% Hungarian + 67.40% Turk_Southwest
2.46605532	27.00% Slovenian + 73.00% Turk_Northwest
2.51688180	18.20% Turk_Central_Black_Sea + 81.80% Turk_Trakya
2.52800328	36.60% Hungarian_Transylvania_Szekely + 63.40% Turk_Southwest
2.53622268	32.80% Hungarian_Transdanubia_Budapest + 67.20% Turk_Southwest
2.54837972	73.60% Turk_Northwest + 26.40% Ukrainian_Ivano-Frankivsk

Code:

Distance to:	Onur
2.59374257	68.80% Bulgarian_Thrace + 31.20% Turkmen_Iran
3.01160781	66.00% Greek_Thessaloniki + 34.00% Turkmen_Iran
3.25007224	63.20% Bulgarian_Thrace + 36.80% Ottoman_MA2196
3.33564662	71.60% Bulgarian_Thrace + 28.40% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
3.62026674	68.80% Greek_Thessaloniki + 31.20% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
3.63802299	71.20% Bulgarian_Thrace + 28.80% Turkmen_TM
3.70990305	64.80% Bulgarian_East + 35.20% Turkmen_Iran
3.73396232	58.60% Bulgarian_East + 41.40% Ottoman_MA2196
3.79264609	65.80% Greek_Thrace + 34.20% Turkmen_Iran
3.84680528	64.00% Greek_Macedonia + 36.00% Turkmen_Iran
3.89711907	61.60% Albanian_Kosovo + 38.40% Turkmen_Iran
3.91728990	57.20% Pomak_Greece + 42.80% Ottoman_MA2196
3.95143317	68.40% Greek_Thessaloniki + 31.60% Turkmen_TM
4.00455442	57.60% Greek_Macedonia + 42.40% Ottoman_MA2196
4.01951195	65.80% Moldavian_Gagauz + 34.20% Turkmen_Iran
4.09484723	75.20% Bulgarian_Thrace + 24.80% Turkmen_Afghanistan
4.10972584	76.20% Bulgarian_Thrace + 23.80% Uzbeki
4.19489341	59.60% Moldavian_Gagauz + 40.40% Ottoman_MA2196
4.19904189	63.40% Albanian + 36.60% Turkmen_Iran
4.27974211	60.40% Greek_Thessaloniki + 39.60% Ottoman_MA2196
4.28821870	74.60% Bulgarian_Thrace + 25.40% Uzbek
4.28847670	73.60% Greek_Thessaloniki + 26.40% Uzbeki
4.29559324	67.20% Bulgarian_East + 32.80% Turkmen_TM
4.29692878	71.80% Greek_Thessaloniki + 28.20% Uzbek
4.31897157	72.60% Greek_Thessaloniki + 27.40% Turkmen_Afghanistan

**~~Altaylı~~** · 03-23-2021, 04:05 PM

Kırşehir Turk:

Gedrosia 15.11 Pct
Siberian 5.27 Pct
Northwest_African 1.00 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 9.14 Pct
North_European 13.17 Pct
South_Asian 1.44 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 9.96 Pct
East_Asian 6.78 Pct
Caucasus 38.07 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Target: Kırşehirli
Distance: 0.8593% / 0.85926470 | ADC: 0.25x RC
58.8 Turk_South
20.4 Circassian
10.2 Nogai
5.3 Kumyk
3.6 Kuwait2
1.7 Japanese

Distance to: Kırşehirli
4.15285005 63.80% Armenian_East + 36.20% Turkmen_Afghanistan
4.32830089 63.00% Armenian_East + 37.00% Uzbek
4.37939017 64.40% Armenian_East + 35.60% Uzbeki
4.75556799 56.80% Greek_Pontus + 43.20% Uzbek
4.94966331 71.80% Armenian_East + 28.20% DA87_Kimak
4.96101736 49.20% Armenian_East + 50.80% MA2196_Ottoman
5.18928617 45.80% Greek_Cappadocia + 54.20% Turkmen_Iran
5.24871388 66.20% Greek_Pontus + 33.80% DA87_Kimak
5.25217750 57.80% Greek_Pontus + 42.20% Turkmen_Afghanistan
5.33270263 58.60% Greek_Pontus + 41.40% Uzbeki
5.47667559 57.80% Armenian_East + 42.20% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
5.59522765 51.20% Greek_Pontus + 48.80% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
5.67645717 41.60% Greek_Pontus + 58.40% Turkmen_Iran
5.78084814 61.40% Armenian_West + 38.60% Turkmen_Afghanistan
5.84463916 48.20% Armenian_East + 51.80% Turkmen_Iran
5.92566306 60.40% Armenian_West + 39.60% Uzbek
5.98776569 71.00% Armenian_East + 29.00% Uyghur
6.01675752 62.00% Armenian_West + 38.00% Uzbeki
6.05401868 62.80% Greek_Cappadocia + 37.20% Uzbeki
6.15179236 41.60% Georgian + 58.40% MA2196_Ottoman
6.22071589 61.20% Greek_Cappadocia + 38.80% Uzbek
6.22203079 46.00% Armenian_West + 54.00% MA2196_Ottoman
6.27843776 42.40% Greek_Pontus + 57.60% MA2196_Ottoman
6.37717189 39.60% Georgian_Gurian + 60.40% MA2196_Ottoman
6.43806524 62.20% Greek_Cappadocia + 37.80% Turkmen_Afghanistan

**~~Altaylı~~** · 03-23-2021, 05:17 PM

Ankara Kızılcahamam

Gedrosia 10.43 Pct
Siberian 5.78 Pct
Northwest_African 1.78 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 14.16 Pct
North_European 17.16 Pct
South_Asian 0.62 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 10.33 Pct
East_Asian 5.19 Pct
Caucasus 34.53 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Target: Ankaralı
Distance: 1.1368% / 1.13675072 | ADC: 0.25x RC
27.1 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
26.5 Nogai
21.8 Greek_Fournoi
17.5 Turk_Northwest
7.1 Yemenite_Mahra

Distance to: Ankaralı
3.62433422 52.00% Ashkenazi_Jews + 48.00% Nogai
3.80970120 56.60% Greek_Crete + 43.40% Nogai
3.90646015 56.00% Greek_Fournoi + 44.00% Nogai
4.46567322 52.60% Greek_Kos + 47.40% Nogai
4.70322937 55.80% Greek_Izmir + 44.20% Nogai
4.86148338 57.00% Greek_Lemnos + 43.00% Nogai
4.91303224 51.20% Greek_Rhodes + 48.80% Nogai
5.27360177 59.00% Greek_Izmir + 41.00% Turkmen_Iran
5.30271976 70.20% Greek_Crete + 29.80% Turkmen_Afghanistan
5.37369733 71.20% Greek_Crete + 28.80% Uzbeki
5.39768869 49.20% Greek_Icaria + 50.80% Nogai
5.41090637 58.20% Greek_Foca + 41.80% Turkmen_Iran
5.52546863 70.40% Greek_Izmir + 29.60% Uzbeki
5.57690008 69.40% Greek_Izmir + 30.60% Turkmen_Afghanistan
5.73949763 55.00% Greek_Foca + 45.00% Nogai
5.79839624 69.80% Greek_Crete + 30.20% Uzbek
5.80705211 64.60% Greek_Izmir + 35.40% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
5.86748467 77.20% Greek_Crete + 22.80% DA87_Kimak
5.87730744 59.80% Greek_Fournoi + 40.20% Turkmen_Iran
5.95138446 60.40% Greek_Crete + 39.60% Turkmen_Iran
5.98721406 70.20% Greek_Fournoi + 29.80% Turkmen_Afghanistan
5.98853991 69.00% Greek_Izmir + 31.00% Uzbek
6.07537441 71.20% Greek_Fournoi + 28.80% Uzbeki
6.15301930 65.80% Greek_Crete + 34.20% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
6.24132977 55.00% Greek_Athens + 45.00% Turkmen_Iran

Very high north european

**Kaspias** · 03-23-2021, 05:45 PM

Originally Posted by Altaylı

Kırşehir Turk:

4.96101736 49.20% Armenian_East + 50.80% MA2196_Ottoman

= Straightforward 25% Oghuz. Most reliable calculation ever.

**Kyp** · 03-23-2021, 06:08 PM

From a small Azerbaijani community in Central Anatolia (Afyon). Their ancestry is from the Javanshir clan of the Afshar tribe (Ruling clan of the Karabakh Khanate):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Javanshir_clan

Gedrosia: 21.09
Siberian: 1.83
NW_African: 1.37
SE_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 9.39
North_European: 9.29
South_Asia: 3.67
East_African: 0.23
SW_Asian: 9.51
East_Asian: 5.05
Caucasus: 36.54
SSA: 0.00

Distance to: Javanshir
3.49589760 Azerbaijani
3.54437583 Azerbaijani_Northwest
3.71309844 Azerbaijani_Turkey
4.27672772 Azerbaijani_Iran
6.03223010 Turk_Southeast
6.44965891 Azerbaijani_North
7.36041439 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
7.43643060 Turk_Central_East
7.58904474 Kurd_Kurmanji
7.65412307 Turk_South
8.06672176 Zaza
8.25192705 Talysh_Azerbaijan
8.41547384 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
8.70340163 Yazidi
8.75580950 Kurd_Adygea
8.97631327 Turk_Central_West
9.18825881 Iraq_Turkmen
9.44573449 Kurd_Sorani
9.54526584 Iran_Central
9.55300476 Udi
9.66525737 Turk_East
10.81714842 Turk_Southwest
10.89871093 Turk_West_BlackSea
10.91403225 Iranian
10.95984945 Iran_Khorasan

Target: Javanshir
Distance: 1.6779% / 1.67793475 | ADC: 0.25x RC
76.3 Azerbaijani_Northwest
9.3 Abkhazian
6.4 Tsakhur_Azerbaijan
4.8 Bnei_Menashe_Jews
3.2 Balkan_Gypsy

**Dr_Maul** · 03-23-2021, 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by Leto

I think I know that account, posted the guy sometime last year. But I'm surprised how non-Euro he looks! I mean with that percentage of North European he is still as dark and woggy as many Azerbaijanis who score only a fraction of that.

as has been said by many Caucasian members here it seems light features is west to east and not directly related to steppe admixture etc

**Leto** · 03-23-2021, 06:37 PM

Originally Posted by Dr_Maul

as has been said by many Caucasian members here it seems light features is west to east and not directly related to steppe admixture etc

Many? There's not many Caucasians on TA and those who claim they are Caucasians are oftentimes some shady trolls. They never post about genetics, so I don't give a rat's ass about those socks. And that statement of yours is debatable IMO. That'd mean Dagestan is supposed to be the darkest of all.

**~~RatCat~~** · 03-23-2021, 07:16 PM

Originally Posted by Leto

Many? There's not many Caucasians on TA and those who claim they are Caucasians are oftentimes some shady trolls. They never post about genetics, so I don't give a rat's about those socks. And that statement of yours is debatable IMO. That'd mean Dagestan is supposed to be the darkest of all.

There isn't a huge difference between Caucasians in terms of pigmentation but if we compare on average Western ones are lighter, with Western Georgians being the lightest in the whole Caucasus. Btw don't think they are majority light, they are the lightest but they are %16-18 light on average. I'll leave some studies that made on this subject.

Spoiler!