Bosniak Gedmatch results

[Jana]

To su bili periferni krajevi Hercegovine, u kojima ta pripadnost nije uzela većeg maha.
Interesantno je da je glavni grad Hercegovine bio grad Pljevlja u današnjoj Crnoj Gori. Ne Mostar, ne Trebinje, već Pljevlja.
Nego meni je smešno kako danas Hrvati pokušavaju da prošire Hercegovački identitet na Livno, Duvno i Kupres.

Nije baš da to Hrvati rade, pa Tropolje nije Hercegovina ali nije ni Bosna. To je zapravo produžetak Dalmatinske Zagore.

[Jana]

View of eastern Herzegovina from Srđ fortress above Dubrovnik



It's a stone desert mainly, with super low population, so I don't buy the story such huge amount of people (meaning Serbs) originate from there.
Doesn't make any sense.

[Dušan]

Nije baš da to Hrvati rade, pa Tropolje nije Hercegovina ali nije ni Bosna. To je zapravo produžetak Dalmatinske Zagore.

Da, to je specifična regija.

[Dušan]

It's a stone desert mainly, with super low population, so I don't buy the story such huge amount of people (meaning Serbs) originate from there.
Doesn't make any sense.

When it is said Herzegovina, it means not only todays eastern Herzegovina, but historical Herzegovina, with parts of west Montenegro, southwest Serbia, and this already mentioned upper Podrinje (Foča-Goražde region).

As I said few months ago, it is not only Herzegovina as a place of origin of western Serbs, but also neighbouring regions. It is mentined that Austrian diplomat found Serbs in Bosanska Krajina who said their origin from Smederevo. That doesnt mean litteraly Smederevo as a towns, but Smederevo sanjak, that comprised lot o todays central and western Serbia.

One interesting thing I found is toponymes in close Višegrad surrounding:



They resemble Krajina Serbs.

There are villages Uništa, Mirlovići in northern Dalmatia, Kosovo polje near Knin, Babin Potok is village in Lika, Dubovik in Bosanska Krajina.
Rodić is well known Krajina Serb surname.

[Jana]

^^^^I see, that makes sense, interesting to learn.

[Varda]

View of eastern Herzegovina from Srđ fortress above Dubrovnik



It's a stone desert mainly, with super low population, so I don't buy the story such huge amount of people (meaning Serbs) originate from there.
Doesn't make any sense.

Istočna Hercegovina je u zadnjih +500 godina izrazito iseljeničko područje.

One of the most beautiful places in eastern Herzegovina to me is Dabar field https://bs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dabarsko_polje

[Dušan]

Few more toponymes in Višegrad surroundings that resemble Krajina Serbs.

Strmica in northern Dalmatia (Knin), Turjak and Međeđa in Bosanska Krajina (Dubica and Gradiška), Bjelajci near Pakrac in western Slavonia.

[Varda]

When it is said Herzegovina, it means not only todays eastern Herzegovina, but historical Herzegovina, with parts of west Montenegro, southwest Serbia, and this already mentioned upper Podrinje (Foča-Goražde region).

As I said few months ago, it is not only Herzegovina as a place of origin of western Serbs, but also neighbouring regions. It is mentined that Austrian diplomat found Serbs in Bosanska Krajina who said their origin from Smederevo. That doesnt mean litteraly Smederevo as a towns, but Smederevo sanjak, that comprised lot o todays central and western Serbia.

One interesting thing I found is toponymes in close Višegrad surrounding:



They resemble Krajina Serbs.

There are villages Uništa, Mirlovići in northern Dalmatia, Kosovo polje near Knin, Babin Potok is village in Lika, Dubovik in Bosanska Krajina.
Rodić is well known Krajina Serb surname.

Riđane in Dalmatian Kosovo near Knin and Riđani near Nikšić, Pađene near Knin and Pađeni near Bileća etc. Look at this http://nebojsavukanovic.info/hercego...inu-i-krajini/

Uništa is only ikavian speaking village in Bosansko Grahovo minicipality. Both Serbs and Croatians from Uništa used ikavian. Both settled from Vrlika area in 19th century.

[CommonSense]

Bosniak from eastern Herzegovina:

Bosniak_Hercegovina,26.17,23.06,19.93,9.86,16.80,1.88,0.15,0.26,0.35,0.01,1.54,0.00,0.00

from Čajniče and Goražde (northern Herzegovina)

North_Atlantic	24.03 Pct
Baltic	31.68 Pct
West_Med	17.14 Pct
West_Asian	7 Pct
East_Med	15.01 Pct
Red_Sea	1.31 Pct
South_Asian	1.76 Pct
East_Asian	0.48 Pct
Siberian	0.2 Pct
Amerindian	1.03 Pct
Oceanian	-    
Northeast_African	0.37 Pct
Sub-Saharan	-   

North_Atlantic	24.09 Pct
Baltic	31.41 Pct
West_Med	16.58 Pct
West_Asian	5.67 Pct
East_Med	18.14 Pct
Red_Sea	3.04 Pct
South_Asian	-    
East_Asian	-    
Siberian	-    
Amerindian	1.06 Pct
Oceanian	-    
Northeast_African	-    
Sub-Saharan	-

I posted the latter result a year ago:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post6629911

[vbnetkhio]

View of eastern Herzegovina from Srđ fortress above Dubrovnik



It's a stone desert mainly, with super low population, so I don't buy the story such huge amount of people (meaning Serbs) originate from there.
Doesn't make any sense.

Krajina Serbs from the SDNKP, 635 samples

J2b-M205>Y22059 = 8.3%
N2-P189.2>FGC28435 = 8.2%
I1-P109>FGC22045 = 3.8%
total - 20.3%

Krajina Serbs from 23andMe, 287 samples

хаплогрупа J2b-M205 = 9.1%
хаплогрупа N2-P189.2 = 8%
хаплогрупа I1-P109 = 2.8%
total 19.9%

^those subclades definitely originate from the very sparsely populated Old Herzegovina, they simply migrated to empty areas and had a huge population boom there.

and that's without r1a and i2. for those it's harder to distinguish which subclades are from Herzegovina and which from elsewhere.