Post Eurogenes K13 - Fresh thread -

[Jana]

Those have been added to the original spreadsheet by ...who knows

Creoda added Dutch regional averages iirc based on fully Dutch kits with family trees he collected, you can trust his work.

[Jana]

Born and raised in England, parents are both Irish:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 47.63
2 Baltic 26
3 West_Med 12.78
4 West_Asian 8.26
5 East_Med 3.14
6 Red_Sea 1.55
7 South_Asian 0.47
8 Amerindian 0.16

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 North_German 3.16
2 North_Dutch 3.71
3 Danish 4.2
4 Orcadian 4.92
5 Irish 5.1
6 Southeast_English 5.47
7 Norwegian 5.53
8 West_Scottish 6.12
9 Southwest_English 6.33
10 South_Dutch 6.58
11 Swedish 6.62
12 West_German 7.29
13 Austrian 10.76
14 East_German 11.16
15 North_Swedish 12.23
16 French 12.67
17 Hungarian 15.47
18 Southwest_Finnish 19.73
19 Spanish_Cataluna 20.31
20 Croatian 20.65

Irish ranks 5th. And I'm closer to Danish and other germanic groups for some reason.

You have bit lower North Atlantic and bit higher Baltic, West Asian and East Med than Irish average, that's why you are pulled east towards Germanics.

[Jana]

By the way, with which company did you test? I noticed new versions of Myheritage and 23andme have eastern pull due to lower snp count.

[Petalpusher]

Creoda added Dutch regional averages iirc based on fully Dutch kits with family trees he collected, you can trust his work.

I think some were added before, like Belgian never existed in K13/K15 and replaced S.Dutch for some reasons. Except no Belgians cluster here if you look at our pca's (because it's indeed S.Dutch). Provence is completely wrong, nobody cluster there either (it's right next to Veneto and Lombardy)
Im sure the new ones are more serious and legit averages if Creoda made them altough the difference between central and north dutch seems anecdotical, like two siblings or neighbours, but why not. What im not sure about are the old ones where somebody renamed/swapped academic samples.

[J. Ketch]

Creoda added Dutch regional averages iirc based on fully Dutch kits with family trees he collected, you can trust his work.

Thanks Feiichy but the Dutch averages are created mostly from academic samples that Peterski sent me, along with some kits I've collected

[Jana]

Thanks Feiichy but the Dutch averages are created mostly from academic samples that Peterski sent me, along with some kits I've collected

Even better up:

[Jana]

I think some were added before, like Belgian never existed in K13/K15 and replaced S.Dutch for some reasons. Except no Belgians cluster here if you look at our pca's (because it's indeed S.Dutch). Provence is completely wrong, nobody cluster there either (it's right next to Veneto and Lombardy)
Im sure the new ones are more serious and legit averages if Creoda made them altough the difference between central and north dutch seems anecdotical, like two siblings or neighbours, but why not. What im not sure about are the old ones where somebody renamed/swapped academic samples.

Hmm, I'm not sure who made French averages, I think it was Peterski (could be wrong), so maybe he'll know more.

[Leto]

Creoda added Dutch regional averages iirc based on fully Dutch kits with family trees he collected, you can trust his work.

No, the Dutch samples are academic, Piotr uploaded them. And they are quite fishy, some were like 2-3% SSA and/or East Asian. For Dodecad I had to eliminate nearly half of them for said reasons. So D K12b doesn't have Dutch_North and South, only one Dutch average.

[Jana]

No, the Dutch samples are academic, Piotr uploaded them. And they are quite fishy, some were like 2-3% SSA and/or East Asian. For Dodecad I had to eliminate nearly half of them for said reasons. So D K12b doesn't have Dutch_North and South, only one Dutch average.

You can see Creoda wrote he added kits he collected into these averages.
These look normal/good IMO. But weird if Peterski included odd samples like that.

[Leto]

You can see Creoda wrote he added kits he collected into these averages.
These look normal/good IMO. But weird if Peterski included odd samples like that.

He didn't include them into anything, he just ran them through the program and then added to a spreadsheet.