Dodecad k12b West & Central Asian results Vol 4.

[Saba]

Target: Bakhtiar+Qashqai
Distance: 2.0366% / 2.03655182 | ADC: 0.25x RC
51.2 Iranian_Kerman
39.4 Yazidi_Kurd
3.8 Spanish_Basque
3.3 Yaghnobi_Tajikistan
2.3 Dai

Would you mind PMing this person's kit ?

[Sterling Archer]

Azerbaijani of Padar tribe from Ağsu region of Azerbaijan.
Y-DNA: J2
MtDNA: K1a

His pictures (he has very interesting phenotype):



He has high Atlantic_Med when compared to most Azerbaijanis and predictably is closer to the Turkish Az. average:
Gedrosia 22.35
Siberian 1.44
Northwest_African 0
Southeast_Asia 0
Atlantic_Med 11.22
North_European 7.68
South_Asian 2.91
East_African 0
Southwest_Asia 8.81
East_Asian 5.01
Caucasus 40.58
Sub_Saharan 0

Distance to: Azerb_padar
4.50695019 Azerbaijani_Turkey
5.30116025 Azerbaijani_Republic
5.99745779 Azerbaijani_Iran
7.45806275 Turk_Southeast
7.64317342 Kurd_Kurmanji
7.91686807 Talysh_Azerbaijan
8.15792866 Turk_Central_East
8.48479817 Udi_Azerbaijan
8.60679383 Turk_East
8.68741619 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
8.73935352 Yazidi_Kurd
9.32906748 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
9.43687978 Turk_South

According to him, his family has been living in the Shirvan province of Azerbaijan for at least last 200 years, but most of his matches on 23andme are from the East Azerbaijan province of Iran:

[Kyp]

Azerbaijani of Padar tribe from Ağsu region of Azerbaijan.
Y-DNA: J2
MtDNA: K1a



He has high Atlantic_Med when compared to most Azerbaijanis and predictably is closer to the Turkish Az. average:
Gedrosia 22.35
Siberian 1.44
Northwest_African 0
Southeast_Asia 0
Atlantic_Med 11.22
North_European 7.68
South_Asian 2.91
East_African 0
Southwest_Asia 8.81
East_Asian 5.01
Caucasus 40.58
Sub_Saharan 0

Distance to: Azerb_padar
4.50695019 Azerbaijani_Turkey
5.30116025 Azerbaijani_Republic
5.99745779 Azerbaijani_Iran
7.45806275 Turk_Southeast
7.64317342 Kurd_Kurmanji
7.91686807 Talysh_Azerbaijan
8.15792866 Turk_Central_East
8.48479817 Udi_Azerbaijan
8.60679383 Turk_East
8.68741619 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
8.73935352 Yazidi_Kurd
9.32906748 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
9.43687978 Turk_South

According to him, his family has been living in the Shirvan province of Azerbaijan for at least last 200 years, but most of his matches on 23andme are from the East Azerbaijan province of Iran:

The Padar tribe roamed the area between Iran and Azerbaijan (Moghan and Qaradagh/arasbaran) in their early history. Hamedan province has a large Azerbaijani population (which could be the explanation for the matches. Teheran is just normal, since apparently everyone gets it.

[Sterling Archer]

Result of 1/2 (father is Azerbaijani from Kurdamir) + 1/2 (Tat from Quba and Ismayilli). Very unusual because both North Euro and Atlantic_Med are elevated at the same time. Interesting 2Way.
Ydna: R-FGC24408

Gedrosia 19.99
Siberian 3.74
Northwest_African 0
Southeast_Asia 0.69
Atlantic_Med 10.47
North_European 12.2
South_Asian 0
East_African 0
Southwest_Asia 12.72
East_Asian 1,89
Caucasus 38.29
Sub_Saharan 0

Distance to: Aze_tat
5.26499763 Turk_Southeast
5.33908232 Azerbaijani_Republic
5.54726059 Azerbaijani_Turkey
6.21380721 Azerbaijani_Iran
6.45263512 Turk_Central_East
6.75403583 Turk_South
7.31530587 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
7.32624051 Turk_Central_West
7.66703985 Dersim
7.99414786 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
8.15337967 Kurd_Kurmanji
8.84884738 Turk_West_BlackSea
9.35853621 Turk_East

Distance to: Aze_tat
2.95886938 18.20% Dargin_Kaitag + 81.80% Turk_Southeast
2.98156265 21.20% Tabasaran + 78.80% Turk_Southeast
2.99594984 17.20% Dargin + 82.80% Turk_Southeast
3.00268277 18.40% Avar + 81.60% Turk_Southeast
3.01388090 18.00% Dargin_Kubachi + 82.00% Turk_Southeast
3.03221391 19.20% Lak + 80.80% Turk_Southeast
3.03398218 21.60% Lezgin + 78.40% Turk_Southeast
3.06437347 32.60% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain + 67.40% Kurd_Kurmanji
3.10125956 87.40% Azerbaijani_Republic + 12.60% Bulgarian_East
3.10617627 87.60% Azerbaijani_Republic + 12.40% Pomak_Greece
3.11171089 88.20% Azerbaijani_Republic + 11.80% Pomak_Bulgaria
3.12253823 88.60% Azerbaijani_Republic + 11.40% Bulgarian_West
3.12685058 85.80% Azerbaijani_Republic + 14.20% Turk_Makedonya
3.12779324 88.20% Azerbaijani_Republic + 11.80% Bulgarian_Central
3.12838112 89.60% Azerbaijani_Republic + 10.40% Montenegrin
3.12896803 88.60% Azerbaijani_Republic + 11.40% Moldovan_South
3.13293486 88.20% Azerbaijani_Republic + 11.80% Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje
3.13574611 89.00% Azerbaijani_Republic + 11.00% Romanian
3.14413357 60.60% Dersim + 39.40% Turk_Northwest
3.14992914 88.40% Azerbaijani_Republic + 11.60% Macedonian_East
3.16494500 84.60% Azerbaijani_Republic + 15.40% Turk_Trakya
3.16790453 90.20% Azerbaijani_Republic + 9.80% Serb
3.16841510 87.80% Azerbaijani_Republic + 12.20% Greek_Macedonia
3.17798219 31.00% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain + 69.00% Dersim
3.17850712 86.00% Azerbaijani_Republic + 14.00% Turk_Deliorman

[Sterling Archer]

New Azerbaijani result from Zərnə and Ləkit villages of Zaqatala.
Y-DNA: G-Z6638

Picture:


Gedrosia 24.05
Siberian 4.17
NW_African -
SE_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 5.84
North_European 17.87
South_Asian -
East_African -
SW_Asian 7.46
East_Asian 1.82
Caucasus 38.78
SSA -

Distance to: Aze_zagatala
5.09288720 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
5.66657745 Kumyk
6.75555327 Lezgin
6.95218671 Ingush
7.20224271 Chechen
7.47194754 Tabasaran
8.91853127 Kabardin
9.23009751 Lak
9.66794187 Balkar
9.68573177 Abazin
9.82129319 Karachay
10.20639505 Circassian
10.32822831 Adyghe
10.40576283 Avar
10.74801377 Dargin_Kubachi
10.98171207 Azerbaijani_Republic
11.03286907 Dargin_Kaitag
11.55805347 Ossetian
11.67688315 Azerbaijani_Iran
11.84349188 Azerbaijani_Turkey
12.19276425 Dargin
12.42008454 Dersim
12.78383745 Iranian_Zoroastrian
12.99496441 Talysh_Azerbaijan
13.59477841 Kurd_Kurmanji

Distance to: Aze_zagatala
2.24865721 69.60% Lezgin + 30.40% Turk_Central_Black_Sea
2.50187145 68.80% Lezgin + 31.20% Turk_South
2.52042537 69.60% Lezgin + 30.40% Turk_Central_East
2.59117857 45.40% Azerbaijani_Republic + 54.60% Lak
2.63261757 50.20% Azerbaijani_Republic + 49.80% Dargin_Kaitag
2.67921531 51.40% Avar + 48.60% Azerbaijani_Republic
2.72878424 53.40% Avar + 46.60% Azerbaijani_Turkey
2.73664694 39.60% Azerbaijani_Republic + 60.40% Tabasaran
2.75720408 71.40% Azerbaijani_Dagestan + 28.60% Dargin_Kaitag
2.78795938 43.40% Azerbaijani_Turkey + 56.60% Lak
2.78854367 43.60% Azerbaijani_Iran + 56.40% Lak
2.80643571 69.20% Lezgin + 30.80% Turk_Southeast
2.82064417 34.80% Azerbaijani_Turkey + 65.20% Lezgin
2.83773962 52.80% Azerbaijani_Republic + 47.20% Dargin

[Mejgusu]

Its very silent here unfortunately, a new thread would be good too. But here I have a very interesting result from Turkey(thanks @CommonSense), a Turk who has at least maternally Kurdish ancestry, on 23andme he is predominantly East Anatolian/Iranian but has an odd result. He seems to be Turkish+Kurdish mix but there is something weird on his result:

Ankara/Corum(Turk?Kurd?)
Gedrosia:22.24
Siberian:2.21
NW-African:0
SE-Asian:0
Atl.Med:15.33
North European:4.98
South Asian:4.96
East African:0
SW-Asian:13.51
East Asian:1.27
Caucasus:35.49
SSA:0

Distance to: Ankara/Corum(Turk?Kurd?)
8.46956906 Turk_Southeast
8.94589291 Kurd_Kurmanji
9.07179696 Turkmen_Iraq
9.20648684 Yazidi_Kurd
9.35027272 Azerbaijani_Iran
9.64442326 Azerbaijani_Turkey
9.93532586 Dersim
9.98240452 Azerbaijani_Republic
10.89430585 Iranian_Central
10.93581273 Kurd_Sorani
10.95121454 Turk_Central_East
11.19737469 Iraqi_Baghdad
11.45966841 Iranian_Lur
11.46551787 Iranian_Fars
11.60492999 Turk_Central_West
11.64299790 Turk_South
11.94279281 Iranian_Zoroastrian
12.04443855 Talysh_Azerbaijan
12.75231744 Kurd_Feyli
12.86897043 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
12.97895990 Turk_East
12.97914866 Iranian_Khorasan
13.07020658 Iranian_Kerman
13.68034722 Turk_Southwest
13.71338397 Turk_West_BlackSea

Target: Ankara/Corum(Turk?Kurd?)
Distance: 7.4484% / 7.44842846 | ADC: 1x RC
57.3 Turk_Southeast
42.7 Yazidi_Kurd

Target: Ankara/Corum(Turk?Kurd?)
Distance: 2.8775% / 2.87750064 | ADC: 0.5x RC
45.3 Yazidi_Kurd
25.8 Turkmen_Iraq
14.7 Sardinian
14.2 Parsi_India

Target: Ankara/Corum(Turk?Kurd?)
Distance: 2.0014% / 2.00141864 | ADC: 0.25x RC
58.2 Iranian_Lur
16.4 Sardinian
13.7 Turk_Southeast
11.7 Parsi_India

[Sterling Archer]

Mountain jew from Ismayilli, Azerbaijan.
Y-dna: J-P279

Mount_jew,17.94,0,1.31,0,9.91,4.85,0.23,0.64,20.57,1.32,43.23,0

Distance to: Mount_jew
4.78784920 Kurdish_Jew
4.92699706 Azeri_Jew
4.99369603 Mandean
5.04925737 Assyrian_South
5.27119531 Assyrian_North
5.30822946 Iraqi_Jew
5.38461698 Assyrian_West
6.95611242 Iraqi_Baghdad
8.40971462 Armenian_West
8.94578672 Nusayri_Turkey
8.98504313 Turkmen_Iraq
9.10322470 Lebanese_Muslim
9.46578576 Turk_East
9.89975252 Armenian_East
9.91749464 Lebanese_Christian
10.05698762 Syrian_Muslim
10.32072187 Turk_Southeast
10.44765524 Kurd_Kurmanji
10.89429208 Dersim
10.89857789 Udi_Azerbaijan
11.08603626 Arab_Iran
11.59551206 Azerbaijani_Republic
11.64577176 Azerbaijani_Turkey
11.94165818 Turk_Central_East
12.00855112 Azerbaijani_Iran

[Sterling Archer]

The Padar tribe roamed the area between Iran and Azerbaijan (Moghan and Qaradagh/arasbaran) in their early history. Hamedan province has a large Azerbaijani population (which could be the explanation for the matches. Teheran is just normal, since apparently everyone gets it.

Not just Iran and Azerbaijan. They also apparently roamed Dagestan.
There is an Azerbaijani village named Padar:
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9F...2%D0%B0%D0%BD)

[Mesoman]

Mountain jew from Ismayilli, Azerbaijan.
Y-dna: J-P279

Mount_jew,17.94,0,1.31,0,9.91,4.85,0.23,0.64,20.57,1.32,43.23,0

Distance to: Mount_jew
4.78784920 Kurdish_Jew
4.92699706 Azeri_Jew
4.99369603 Mandean
5.04925737 Assyrian_South
5.27119531 Assyrian_North
5.30822946 Iraqi_Jew
5.38461698 Assyrian_West
6.95611242 Iraqi_Baghdad
8.40971462 Armenian_West
8.94578672 Nusayri_Turkey
8.98504313 Turkmen_Iraq
9.10322470 Lebanese_Muslim
9.46578576 Turk_East
9.89975252 Armenian_East
9.91749464 Lebanese_Christian
10.05698762 Syrian_Muslim
10.32072187 Turk_Southeast
10.44765524 Kurd_Kurmanji
10.89429208 Dersim
10.89857789 Udi_Azerbaijan
11.08603626 Arab_Iran
11.59551206 Azerbaijani_Republic
11.64577176 Azerbaijani_Turkey
11.94165818 Turk_Central_East
12.00855112 Azerbaijani_Iran

Interesting. Can you add Georgian jewish, Azeri Jewish, west Armenian and Assyrian samples?

[Sterling Archer]

Interesting. Can you add Georgian jewish, Azeri Jewish, west Armenian and Assyrian samples?

Unfortunately I don't have any Georgian Jewish samples(and I don't know why the Georgian Jewish average was removed from vahaduo).
Armenian and Assyrian results have been posted already. To be frank I don't find their results very interesting as they are fairly homogeneous groups.

Here is another mountain jew from the same region of Azerbaijan. They do score somehow similar to Assyrians and Armenians. I have seen some who score almost indistinguishable from the Assyrians.

Gedrosia 17.37 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 3.28 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 11.28 Pct
North_European 2.52 Pct
South_Asian 3.12 Pct
East_African 0.9 Pct
Southwest_Asian 19.06 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 42.45 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Mount_jew
4.56600482 Mandean
4.83707556 Kurdish_Jew
5.08948917 Iraqi_Jew
5.39440451 Assyrian_South
5.51413638 Azeri_Jew
5.81529879 Assyrian_West
5.94172534 Assyrian_North
6.25391877 Iraqi_Baghdad
7.43150725 Nusayri_Turkey
7.44718067 Lebanese_Muslim
8.67630682 Armenian_West
8.74819981 Turkmen_Iraq
8.91323174 Lebanese_Christian
9.35990385 Syrian_Muslim
10.02326793 Turk_East
10.64984037 Turk_Southeast
10.70428886 Arab_Iran
10.71591807 Kurd_Kurmanji
10.78852631 Armenian_East
11.27542904 Palestinian_Christian
11.40299961 Dersim
11.62993981 Syrian_SW_Christian
11.85993676 Palestinian
11.92922881 Iraqi_Arab
11.94851455 Udi_Azerbaijan