The origin and legacy of the Etruscans through a 2,000-year archeogenomic time transect

[Leto]

Compare their percentage of Levant_PPNB with that of some ancient Levant groups and you have the answer.

https://anthrogenica.com/showthread....169#post803169

I don't wanna talk to you but okay. To be clear, by "Middle Eastern" I mean Biblical Israelite ancestry, not some obscure pre-historic stuff. There's no way they are only 20% Middle Eastern as that model suggests. You need samples from 1000 BC through 1 AD. That's what I'm interested in.

[Faklon]

They look between modern Nothern Italians and Sardinians according to this.



Still close to modern Central and Northern Italian whose shift doesn't seem that Near-Eastern as in Levant. Caucasian/CHG of some sort.

[Lucas]

The full paper is out!
https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.abi7673
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This is nice

If we specifically restrict the analyses to those Longobard-related individuals carrying unadmixed northern European genetic ancestry (Piedmont_N.Longobard), then we obtain a ~20% contribution to the C.Italy_Early.Medieval cluster (Fig. 5B). This finding is consistent with a genetic input of northern European ancestry in central Italy during the Longobard period. However, the influence of other Germanic tribes in Italy like the Ostrogoths could also have enhanced the observed genomic shift.

Continuing our genomic transect into the Early Middle Ages (500 to 1000 CE), we observe an additional genetic transition in some of the former Etruria territories through the spread of northern European–related ancestries. Admixture models are consistent with this genetic component being introduced from previously published individuals associated with the Longobard culture, although other cultural groups may have contributed as well. Thus, settlers expanding across large parts of the Italian peninsula after the collapse of the Western Roman Empire and the establishment of the Longobard Kingdom might have left a traceable impact on the genetic landscape of central Italy.

[Lucas]

Simply Near Easterners migrated to Italy in mass number. So only because of Goths and Lombards it was reversed to status quo ante. In the north at least.
So no blablabla neolithic ancestry. It is on Sardinia.

The genetic replacement of ~50% of the preceding Etruscan-related gene pool was likely influenced by the movement of slaves and possibly soldiers, along with a larger pattern of human mobility from the eastern Mediterranean toward Italy (45–49)

Our new data from Etruria show that the influx of Near Eastern ancestry spread far beyond the greater capital region itself and suggest that this broader pattern of population movement may have affected larger portions of the Italian peninsula.

[Voskos]

Target: Italian_Tuscany
Distance: 224.3988% / 2.24398760
62.2 C.Italy_Etruscan
21.8 I1409_ARE20_Middle_Late_Chalcolithic_Vayots-Dzor_Armenia
16.0 France_IA_NOR4

[Faklon]

Simply Armenoids and Semites migrated to Italy in mass number. So only beacause of Goths and Lombards it was reversed to status quo ante. In the north at least.

Don't know about Armenoids but the shift in the medieval or now doesn't seem Semitic, rather Anatolian or Caucasian. Anatolia was well Romanized sociopolitically in antiquity-medieval.

Goths also don't have the same history with the Lombards who suddenly woke up from Sweden. They had already established themselves in Pannonia for centuries.

[Lucas]

Don't about Armenoids but the shift in the medieval or now doesn't seem Semitic, rather Anatolian or Caucasian. Anatolia was well Romanized sociopolitically in antiquity-medieval.

Goths also don't have the same history with the Lombards who suddenly woke up from Sweden. They had already established themselves in Pannonia for centuries.

Authors said Near Eastern ancestry specifically. Anatolian would be stressed if it would be main but certainly was also present, ok.

Our new data from Etruria show that the influx of Near Eastern ancestry spread far beyond the greater capital region itself and suggest that this broader pattern of population movement may have affected larger portions of the Italian peninsula.

[Faklon]

Authors said Near Eastern ancestry specifically. Anatolian would be stressed if it would be main but certainly was also present, ok.

Near-East is as a simple word as Europe. It looks to be Anatolian, Anatolia was culturally Roman, modern Turkey is full of Roman-era sites and half of the core Christian saints come from there.

Semitic and Gothic, when 30th generation Romanian Goths should be like Swedes, sound more shocking, ok

[Gallop]

Second, after the Bronze Age admixture, the Etruscan-related gene pool remained generally homogeneous for almost 800 years, notwithstanding the sporadic presence of individuals of likely Near Eastern, northern African, and central European origins.

[Lucas]

Near-East is as a simple word as Europe. It looks to be Anatolian, Anatolia was culturally Roman, modern Turkey is full of Roman-era sites and half of the core Christian saints come from there.

You don't want to use definition from Wikipedia, do you? Look on map.

https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near_East