Dodecad k12b West & Central Asian results Vol 4.

[Kyp]

Thanks, they’re 6-7% Mongoloid. The somewhat mongoloid-like appearance in my family is perhaps a becauze of Terekeme origin. But if there was such a thing, I think I would know. Anyway, people sometimes tell me I look like an Azeri. xd

Yes you can pass as Azeri for sure. But you'll only find out if you do a test.
Their average is more like 7-8% Mongoloid. On Dodecad it's 8%. And I can tell you that the individual samples varied from 5.30 to 11%.

[Leto]

Iranian samples from a 2018 study on Siberia (yeah, sounds ridiculous, I know )

Iranian:Iranian004,28.82,1.83,1.65,0.03,6.54,9.26,6.50,1.02,12.25,0.00,32.08,0.00
Iranian:Iranian007,29.89,2.96,2.20,0.00,4.23,11.67,5.47,0.00,13.49,0.00,30.09,0.00
Iranian:Iranian01,23.87,2.12,0.56,1.22,6.69,8.87,3.64,0.00,12.95,0.00,39.17,0.90
Iranian:Iranian015,23.55,2.90,0.00,0.00,2.64,11.07,3.74,0.00,14.71,1.21,38.62,1.57
Iranian:Iranian017,27.61,1.22,3.03,0.00,7.32,11.13,7.77,0.00,8.46,0.00,33.29,0.17
Iranian:Iranian018,27.93,1.56,1.75,0.00,3.92,6.63,5.56,0.00,12.68,0.00,39.89,0.08
Iranian:Iranian045,25.48,0.00,2.41,1.36,5.88,12.00,5.43,0.00,15.15,0.00,32.00,0.29
Iranian:Iranian046,28.78,0.93,0.36,1.58,6.66,5.71,4.90,0.00,14.92,0.64,35.53,0.00
Iranian:Iranian051,32.09,0.24,1.09,0.00,5.81,9.44,9.10,0.08,8.98,1.36,30.80,1.00
Iranian:Iranian052,25.79,0.00,0.82,0.77,7.17,8.32,6.48,1.63,12.77,0.62,35.63,0.00
Iranian:Iranian059,28.32,0.00,0.00,0.00,4.25,10.50,5.82,0.00,11.53,0.58,39.00,0.00
Iranian:Iranian061,30.55,2.25,0.00,0.18,8.07,8.85,5.48,0.01,12.89,0.00,31.72,0.00
Iranian:Iranian062,29.82,0.78,0.35,0.00,8.53,6.33,3.89,0.00,12.20,2.13,35.97,0.00
Iranian:Iranian07,24.43,2.76,0.39,1.89,8.22,7.74,3.75,0.00,11.39,0.00,37.87,1.55
Iranian:Iranian070,32.47,0.91,0.65,0.00,2.35,5.12,5.88,0.12,11.91,2.35,37.95,0.29
Iranian:Iranian071,25.94,2.33,0.00,0.59,3.95,9.37,5.69,0.00,13.11,0.00,39.02,0.00
Iranian:Iranian08,31.11,1.06,0.00,0.19,3.40,8.34,2.46,0.00,11.87,0.00,41.57,0.00
Iranian:Iranian080,29.61,1.61,0.00,0.00,5.25,8.80,4.36,0.00,12.88,0.00,37.49,0.00
Iranian:Iranian082,28.65,1.43,0.84,0.00,7.19,7.46,3.73,1.37,12.93,2.06,34.19,0.16
Iranian:Iranian12,23.50,0.67,2.33,2.57,7.15,5.47,6.20,2.29,11.45,0.00,38.27,0.10
Iranian:Iranian14,24.63,2.10,5.11,1.09,9.64,3.56,0.59,0.24,14.04,1.05,37.95,0.00
Iranian:Iranian24,30.60,0.00,0.00,0.00,5.80,7.52,3.38,0.45,11.56,1.40,39.30,0.00
Iranian:Iranian26,23.59,0.97,0.80,0.83,8.89,10.36,2.27,0.86,10.52,3.07,37.82,0.00
Iranian:Iranian27,31.87,0.00,0.00,0.16,5.64,3.85,3.32,1.60,10.53,0.00,43.03,0.00
Iranian:Iranian31,24.46,3.65,0.00,0.00,8.11,11.27,4.42,1.50,10.96,0.00,35.63,0.00
Iranian:Iranian39,27.39,1.04,1.46,0.00,6.56,7.85,5.31,0.69,10.37,0.00,37.12,2.21
Iranian:Iranian52,26.26,4.36,2.81,2.75,6.26,8.65,3.52,0.00,9.48,2.47,33.00,0.44

Turkmens from the same source. Very diverse. They are going to replace the "Turkmen_TM" average

Turkmen:Turkmen122,17.55,12.97,0.18,1.88,9.47,13.96,4.38,1.99,2.84,16.49,18.01,0.28
Turkmen:Turkmen123,21.44,9.41,0.53,3.94,6.76,12.41,10.14,0.00,5.03,12.78,17.56,0.00
Turkmen:Turkmen124,16.20,18.11,0.00,0.00,4.10,16.65,5.56,0.00,5.11,16.96,17.31,0.00
Turkmen:Turkmen125,17.62,18.07,0.00,0.00,6.89,13.88,3.40,0.00,1.77,20.90,17.47,0.00
Turkmen:Turkmen126,16.81,16.20,0.15,2.55,5.68,17.11,2.03,0.56,3.95,15.52,19.19,0.26
Turkmen:Turkmen127,18.92,11.57,0.66,2.66,5.63,16.64,6.82,0.00,3.70,13.57,19.85,0.00
Turkmen:Turkmen128,19.58,13.05,1.01,1.90,6.06,13.79,6.45,1.41,3.69,14.64,18.42,0.00
Turkmen:Turkmen129,18.69,15.55,0.00,1.28,6.64,14.57,4.46,0.71,1.75,16.07,20.27,0.00
Turkmen:Turkmen130,16.54,15.71,0.92,0.00,3.92,16.74,6.13,0.00,4.93,17.11,18.01,0.00
Turkmen:Turkmen318,20.05,8.56,0.00,0.89,7.53,12.75,11.50,0.49,7.37,8.92,21.65,0.28
Turkmen:Turkmen320,12.44,20.72,0.00,0.18,4.80,16.59,5.28,0.57,0.00,21.75,17.67,0.00
Turkmen:Turkmen321,19.97,8.55,0.00,1.49,6.65,12.18,4.63,0.00,9.79,9.03,26.65,1.07
Turkmen:Turkmen324,22.21,10.97,0.95,0.11,5.02,13.72,5.20,0.37,7.92,13.05,20.47,0.00
Turkmen:Turkmen325,21.74,11.70,1.93,0.00,4.79,10.32,4.91,0.00,4.49,16.55,23.56,0.00
Turkmen:Turkmen328,19.52,10.27,2.11,1.66,5.36,13.27,6.40,0.00,6.72,9.82,24.87,0.00
Turkmen:Turkmen339,27.31,1.89,0.00,1.80,6.83,8.18,4.81,0.79,8.81,2.40,37.17,0.00
Turkmen:Turkmen340,14.48,19.42,0.00,1.79,4.49,17.96,0.56,0.92,2.23,18.25,19.90,0.00
Turkmen:Turkmen345,22.20,9.68,0.00,1.14,10.74,6.44,3.11,0.77,10.32,7.86,26.82,0.91
Turkmen:Turkmen349,19.77,11.46,0.77,1.37,5.03,12.59,4.76,0.56,4.37,12.83,26.49,0.00
Turkmen:Turkmen350,20.85,8.94,0.33,0.00,8.66,7.84,6.20,0.68,10.22,9.50,26.78,0.00
Turkmen:Turkmen352,12.82,17.99,0.00,1.96,7.29,18.82,4.73,1.12,0.78,17.70,16.80,0.00

[Kyp]

Iranian samples from a 2018 study on Siberia (yeah, sounds ridiculous, I know )

Iranian:Iranian004,28.82,1.83,1.65,0.03,6.54,9.26,6.50,1.02,12.25,0.00,32.08,0.00
Iranian:Iranian007,29.89,2.96,2.20,0.00,4.23,11.67,5.47,0.00,13.49,0.00,30.09,0.00
Iranian:Iranian01,23.87,2.12,0.56,1.22,6.69,8.87,3.64,0.00,12.95,0.00,39.17,0.90
Iranian:Iranian015,23.55,2.90,0.00,0.00,2.64,11.07,3.74,0.00,14.71,1.21,38.62,1.57
Iranian:Iranian017,27.61,1.22,3.03,0.00,7.32,11.13,7.77,0.00,8.46,0.00,33.29,0.17
Iranian:Iranian018,27.93,1.56,1.75,0.00,3.92,6.63,5.56,0.00,12.68,0.00,39.89,0.08
Iranian:Iranian045,25.48,0.00,2.41,1.36,5.88,12.00,5.43,0.00,15.15,0.00,32.00,0.29
Iranian:Iranian046,28.78,0.93,0.36,1.58,6.66,5.71,4.90,0.00,14.92,0.64,35.53,0.00
Iranian:Iranian051,32.09,0.24,1.09,0.00,5.81,9.44,9.10,0.08,8.98,1.36,30.80,1.00
Iranian:Iranian052,25.79,0.00,0.82,0.77,7.17,8.32,6.48,1.63,12.77,0.62,35.63,0.00
Iranian:Iranian059,28.32,0.00,0.00,0.00,4.25,10.50,5.82,0.00,11.53,0.58,39.00,0.00
Iranian:Iranian061,30.55,2.25,0.00,0.18,8.07,8.85,5.48,0.01,12.89,0.00,31.72,0.00
Iranian:Iranian062,29.82,0.78,0.35,0.00,8.53,6.33,3.89,0.00,12.20,2.13,35.97,0.00
Iranian:Iranian07,24.43,2.76,0.39,1.89,8.22,7.74,3.75,0.00,11.39,0.00,37.87,1.55
Iranian:Iranian070,32.47,0.91,0.65,0.00,2.35,5.12,5.88,0.12,11.91,2.35,37.95,0.29
Iranian:Iranian071,25.94,2.33,0.00,0.59,3.95,9.37,5.69,0.00,13.11,0.00,39.02,0.00
Iranian:Iranian08,31.11,1.06,0.00,0.19,3.40,8.34,2.46,0.00,11.87,0.00,41.57,0.00
Iranian:Iranian080,29.61,1.61,0.00,0.00,5.25,8.80,4.36,0.00,12.88,0.00,37.49,0.00
Iranian:Iranian082,28.65,1.43,0.84,0.00,7.19,7.46,3.73,1.37,12.93,2.06,34.19,0.16
Iranian:Iranian12,23.50,0.67,2.33,2.57,7.15,5.47,6.20,2.29,11.45,0.00,38.27,0.10
Iranian:Iranian14,24.63,2.10,5.11,1.09,9.64,3.56,0.59,0.24,14.04,1.05,37.95,0.00
Iranian:Iranian24,30.60,0.00,0.00,0.00,5.80,7.52,3.38,0.45,11.56,1.40,39.30,0.00
Iranian:Iranian26,23.59,0.97,0.80,0.83,8.89,10.36,2.27,0.86,10.52,3.07,37.82,0.00
Iranian:Iranian27,31.87,0.00,0.00,0.16,5.64,3.85,3.32,1.60,10.53,0.00,43.03,0.00
Iranian:Iranian31,24.46,3.65,0.00,0.00,8.11,11.27,4.42,1.50,10.96,0.00,35.63,0.00
Iranian:Iranian39,27.39,1.04,1.46,0.00,6.56,7.85,5.31,0.69,10.37,0.00,37.12,2.21
Iranian:Iranian52,26.26,4.36,2.81,2.75,6.26,8.65,3.52,0.00,9.48,2.47,33.00,0.44

Turkmens from the same source. Very diverse. They are going to replace the "Turkmen_TM" average

Turkmen:Turkmen122,17.55,12.97,0.18,1.88,9.47,13.96,4.38,1.99,2.84,16.49,18.01,0.28
Turkmen:Turkmen123,21.44,9.41,0.53,3.94,6.76,12.41,10.14,0.00,5.03,12.78,17.56,0.00
Turkmen:Turkmen124,16.20,18.11,0.00,0.00,4.10,16.65,5.56,0.00,5.11,16.96,17.31,0.00
Turkmen:Turkmen125,17.62,18.07,0.00,0.00,6.89,13.88,3.40,0.00,1.77,20.90,17.47,0.00
Turkmen:Turkmen126,16.81,16.20,0.15,2.55,5.68,17.11,2.03,0.56,3.95,15.52,19.19,0.26
Turkmen:Turkmen127,18.92,11.57,0.66,2.66,5.63,16.64,6.82,0.00,3.70,13.57,19.85,0.00
Turkmen:Turkmen128,19.58,13.05,1.01,1.90,6.06,13.79,6.45,1.41,3.69,14.64,18.42,0.00
Turkmen:Turkmen129,18.69,15.55,0.00,1.28,6.64,14.57,4.46,0.71,1.75,16.07,20.27,0.00
Turkmen:Turkmen130,16.54,15.71,0.92,0.00,3.92,16.74,6.13,0.00,4.93,17.11,18.01,0.00
Turkmen:Turkmen318,20.05,8.56,0.00,0.89,7.53,12.75,11.50,0.49,7.37,8.92,21.65,0.28
Turkmen:Turkmen320,12.44,20.72,0.00,0.18,4.80,16.59,5.28,0.57,0.00,21.75,17.67,0.00
Turkmen:Turkmen321,19.97,8.55,0.00,1.49,6.65,12.18,4.63,0.00,9.79,9.03,26.65,1.07
Turkmen:Turkmen324,22.21,10.97,0.95,0.11,5.02,13.72,5.20,0.37,7.92,13.05,20.47,0.00
Turkmen:Turkmen325,21.74,11.70,1.93,0.00,4.79,10.32,4.91,0.00,4.49,16.55,23.56,0.00
Turkmen:Turkmen328,19.52,10.27,2.11,1.66,5.36,13.27,6.40,0.00,6.72,9.82,24.87,0.00
Turkmen:Turkmen339,27.31,1.89,0.00,1.80,6.83,8.18,4.81,0.79,8.81,2.40,37.17,0.00
Turkmen:Turkmen340,14.48,19.42,0.00,1.79,4.49,17.96,0.56,0.92,2.23,18.25,19.90,0.00
Turkmen:Turkmen345,22.20,9.68,0.00,1.14,10.74,6.44,3.11,0.77,10.32,7.86,26.82,0.91
Turkmen:Turkmen349,19.77,11.46,0.77,1.37,5.03,12.59,4.76,0.56,4.37,12.83,26.49,0.00
Turkmen:Turkmen350,20.85,8.94,0.33,0.00,8.66,7.84,6.20,0.68,10.22,9.50,26.78,0.00
Turkmen:Turkmen352,12.82,17.99,0.00,1.96,7.29,18.82,4.73,1.12,0.78,17.70,16.80,0.00

Nice!

Here the Iranians ordered (added east eurasian score to see if theres some Azeris among them out of personal interest):


Iranian_Karafet_et_al_2018,27.67,1.47,1.06,0.56,6. 15,8.34,4.77,0.44,12.07,0.70,36.44,0.32

Gedrosian: 27.67
Siberian: 1.47
Northwest_African: 1.06
Southeast_Asian: 0.56
Atlantic_Med: 6.15
North_European: 8.34
South_Asian 4.77
East_African 0.44
Southwest_Asian: 12.07
East_Asian: 0.70
Caucasian: 36.44
SSA: 0.32

Distance to: Iranian_Karafet_et_al_2018
1.44301767 Iranian_Zoroastrian
2.01159141 Iranian_Central
3.83884097 Iranian_Fars
4.52398055 Kurd_Sorani
4.88544778 Yazidi_Kurd
5.05538327 Iranian_Kerman
5.62586882 Kurd_Feyli
5.81864245 Iranian_Lur
6.11196368 Iranian_Khorasan
6.30641737 Talysh_Azerbaijan
6.31176679 Kurd_Kurmanji
6.64900744 Dersim
6.99203833 Azerbaijani_Iran
8.12505385 Iranian_Mazandaran
8.14691353 Azerbaijani_Republic
8.28178121 Turkmen_Iraq
9.46220376 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
9.69108353 Azerbaijani_Turkey
11.70469991 Turk_Southeast
12.83470685 Udi_Azerbaijan
13.67945174 Iraqi_Baghdad
14.40159019 Parsi_India
14.60364338 Turk_East
14.92590701 Turk_Central_East
14.94118469 Turkmen_TM

Target: Iranian_Karafet_et_al_2018
Distance: 0.4103% / 0.41033453 | ADC: 0.25x RC
53.8 Iranian_Zoroastrian
16.0 Iranian_Central
12.9 Yazidi_Kurd
7.8 Turkmen_TM
6.9 Iranian_Mazandaran
2.6 Talysh_Azerbaijan

[Mejgusu]

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Indeed, very nice, it would be interesting from which regions the samples are from, I would say all with 3+ east eurasian are from NW-Iran/Tehran but also many seem to be from NE-Iran, I guess the sample with 10% is probably from NE-Iran too.

[Kyp]

Indeed, very nice, it would be interesting from which regions the samples are from, I would say all with 3+ east eurasian are from NW-Iran/Tehran but also many seem to be from NE-Iran, I guess the sample with 10% is probably from NE-Iran too.

We did found out. It seems that 16 of the samples are from Kerman in the southeast. And 11 of them are from Teheran.

[Mejgusu]

We did found out. It seems that 16 of the samples are from Kerman in the southeast. And 11 of them are from Teheran.

Oh that makes sense, I thought around 30% Gedrosia is rather NE-Iranian but it is normal for Kerman, Khorasan average is even less. After spending a lot of time here still learning new things here.

[Sterling Archer]

Can someone share the result of Terekeme (Karapapak)? I wonder how many mongoloid they carry. According to what I heard, there was a Karapapak population among the Meskhetian Turks.

Not a numerical result, but here is the video of Azerbaijani (Terekeme) kids from Tatlyar village in Dagesta. That whole area is Terekeme:
https://www.instagram.com/p/B0A-MspFwOf/

Their dialect is very heavy. Sounds like a more extreme version of Azerbaijani spoken in Quba-Qusar region.

[Sterling Archer]

Azerbaijani whose maternal grandmother is half Ahiska Turk. The rest of the ancestry is from Shamkir and other regions of the republic.

Gedrosia 20.12
Siberian 3.08
NW_African 0.51
SE_Asian 0.84
Atlantic_Med 7.83
North_European 12.16
South_Asian 2.22
East_African -
SW_Asian 11.21
East_Asian 4.29
Caucasus 37.72
SSA -

Distance to: Azerb_Shamkir
4.32355178 Azerbaijani_Republic
4.76919280 Azerbaijani_Turkey
4.83883250 Azerbaijani_Iran
5.84342365 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
5.88476847 Turk_Southeast
6.75750694 Turk_South
7.40626762 Turk_Central_East
7.85340690 Dersim
8.09730202 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
8.32025841 Turk_Central_West
8.50272309 Kurd_Kurmanji
9.44739117 Talysh_Azerbaijan
9.67309671 Turkmen_Iraq
9.79676477 Turk_West_BlackSea
9.81064728 Turk_Southwest


Distance to: Az_Shamkir
1.56912672 89.80% Azerbaijani_Republic + 10.20% Lipka_Tatar
1.57730556 91.80% Azerbaijani_Republic + 8.20% Tatar_Kazan
1.58250430 91.80% Azerbaijani_Republic + 8.20% Bashkir_North
1.64731647 92.80% Azerbaijani_Republic + 7.20% Chuvash
1.66270018 91.80% Azerbaijani_Republic + 8.20% Bashkir_Central
1.67988115 92.20% Azerbaijani_Republic + 7.80% Tatar_Mishar
1.68689503 5.80% Saami_Sweden + 94.20% Azerbaijani_Republic
1.75509855 93.40% Azerbaijani_Republic + 6.60% Komi
1.76781443 93.20% Azerbaijani_Republic + 6.80% Mari
1.78409089 89.00% Azerbaijani_Republic + 11.00% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
1.78776919 94.20% Azerbaijani_Republic + 5.80% Veps
1.80781011 93.60% Azerbaijani_Republic + 6.40% Russian_Ural
1.81118748 94.00% Azerbaijani_Republic + 6.00% Russian_Northern_Dvina
1.81448030 92.60% Azerbaijani_Republic + 7.40% Besermyan_Udmurtia
1.81778699 94.60% Azerbaijani_Republic + 5.40% Finnish_East
1.88010628 94.40% Azerbaijani_Republic + 5.60% Karelian
1.88664716 93.40% Azerbaijani_Republic + 6.60% Mordovian
1.90567356 93.80% Azerbaijani_Republic + 6.20% Russian_Kostroma
1.92418389 93.00% Azerbaijani_Republic + 7.00% Udmurt
1.92743801 94.20% Azerbaijani_Republic + 5.80% North_Russian
1.98928673 93.80% Azerbaijani_Republic + 6.20% Russian
2.01462377 94.00% Azerbaijani_Republic + 6.00% Russian_Tver
2.01808414 94.80% Azerbaijani_Republic + 5.20% Latvian
2.04068474 94.60% Azerbaijani_Republic + 5.40% Finnish_West
2.04390594 94.60% Azerbaijani_Republic + 5.40% Estonian

[Zoro]

Iranian samples from a 2018 study on Siberia (yeah, sounds ridiculous, I know )]

Which 2018 paper on Siberia?

[Sterling Archer]

Can someone share the result of Terekeme (Karapapak)? I wonder how many mongoloid they carry. According to what I heard, there was a Karapapak population among the Meskhetian Turks.

This is the result of Azerbaijani from Kars, Turkey. Don't know whether this counts as Terekeme or not.

Gedrosia 18.77 Pct
Siberian 3.23 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 11.08 Pct
North_European 9.8 Pct
South_Asian 2.81 Pct
East_African 1.24 Pct
Southwest_Asian 9.45 Pct
East_Asian 5.86 Pct
Caucasus 37.76 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Aze_Kars
4.94787833 Turk_South
5.00503746 Azerbaijani_Turkey
5.18622213 Turk_Southeast
5.48419547 Turk_Central_East
5.75552778 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
6.09436625 Azerbaijani_Republic
6.11700090 Turk_Central_West
6.61598821 Azerbaijani_Iran
7.59216702 Turk_Southwest
7.88246154 Turk_West_BlackSea

Distance to: Aze_Kars
2.64663127 28.40% Iranian_Khorasan + 71.60% Turk_Central_Black_Sea
2.70052820 9.40% Burusho + 90.60% Turk_Central_East
2.85445211 88.40% Azerbaijani_Turkey + 11.60% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
2.86491148 13.40% Tajik_Kabul + 86.60% Turk_Central_East
2.92195822 89.60% Azerbaijani_Turkey + 10.40% Lipka_Tatar
2.96433955 16.80% Tajik_Mountain + 83.20% Turk_Central_East
2.96944799 17.00% Tajik_Herat + 83.00% Turk_Central_East
2.96963310 63.40% Azerbaijani_Turkey + 36.60% Turk_Southwest
2.97232667 76.40% Turk_Central_East + 23.60% Turkmen_TM
2.98606685 27.60% Iranian_Mazandaran + 72.40% Turk_Southwest
3.00854677 46.80% Greek_Cappadocia + 53.20% Turkmen_TM
3.02963434 74.80% Turk_East + 25.20% Uzbek
3.03137834 70.60% Azerbaijani_Turkey + 29.40% Turk_Northwest
3.04599393 24.40% Iranian_Kerman + 75.60% Turk_Central_Black_Sea
3.04666341 13.00% Pashtun_Kandahar + 87.00% Turk_Central_East
3.05601971 15.80% Tajik_Lowland + 84.20% Turk_Central_East
3.06473748 12.00% Tajik_Panjshir&Kapisa + 88.00% Turk_Central_East
3.06772158 12.40% Pamiri_Wakhan + 87.60% Turk_Central_East
3.08502283 13.80% Pashtun_Kandahar + 86.20% Turk_Central_Black_Sea
3.09147939 39.00% Talysh_Azerbaijan + 61.00% Turk_Southwest
3.11481465 10.20% Kalash + 89.80% Turk_Central_East
3.11513834 12.60% Tajik_Panjshir&Kapisa + 87.40% Turk_Central_Black_Sea
3.12012011 10.20% Nuristani + 89.80% Turk_Central_East
3.13496180 12.20% Pamiri_Ishkashim + 87.80% Turk_Central_East
3.14930759 91.80% Azerbaijani_Turkey + 8.20% Nogai_Astrakhan