If you believe in God...

[Sarin]

Try to change my mind...

Why whats in for me ? Uninterrupted scotch & rib steaks ? Kiev escorts ? Mayor support ? Fund them & I'll do it then

[Hexachordia]

To me it seems that the western atheists are about blaming the church for their own mundane faults, so doing to use their own religion as the antithesis to disprove something which could be as universal as the natural resources. And the progressivism could be sold to other countries like opiates, as they are disabled in their own religious discourses, as if the west is the best secular system. To discuss about theology for ones own country, one must not follow only the western paradigm only, either atheism or theism, most people can only discuss through the rhetorics provided by the western standards. If the west blame religion, we have to blame every religious things too, this thinking pattern is dangerous.

[Roy]

God invented something called karma. The matter is not why terrible things happen, the question is why do people allow it to happen. Don't blame the owner, blame us.

Why do you bring karma to it? It is not something that features in 'Christian theology' that we're talking about.

[Roy]

There is no scientific explanation for our existence as long as eternally existing multiverse/cyclic models and their mechanisms/laws will be proven right. Or God will be proven right. God is a supernatural force so it get's tricky from a scientific point of view unless he reveals himself somehow mathematically or literally shows up as a person to all of us etc or all other theories will be wrong and there is no explanation for what we have here. Old take on Big Bang cosmology could actually serve theism since you don't have anything before Big Bang and in order to have something natural (laws of physics, matter etc) you need supernatural above in order to make it from nothingness. Later Big Bang served as a tool to argue against God but they still didn't have any rational explanation and random nothingness is not a mechanism of any kind. These days there are all kind of models trying to get to time before Big Bang and inflation but we don't know yet what is out there if there is anything out there (from a scientific point of view).

So God is one explanation for what we have here and while it's not a scientific explanation it really is an explanation. Other explanations (various multiverse models) are experimental science and should be proven right. Just because they are kind of science doesn't mean that they are proper scientific explanation right now. If we accept God as one explanation for the existence of our universe and laws of physics and all evolution what has happened then God reveals himself in all the fine tuning what is going and also actions (from a Christian point of views He reveals himself being graceful and righteous even if the world is cold and dark like you described).

What comes to evolution it is not a proof against God but rather something which proves certain theological interpretations like Old Earth Creationism wrong. In my opinion. Whether we need God for evolution is like asking do we need God for laws of physics, force expanding our universe etc.

Why world is cold is a problem of evil and there are all kind of ideas trying to solve that question. Can there be good without bad or a mission in life without a fight between good and bad. It is a very tricky question to ask God why he didn't create us as beings not capable of feeling pain etc but Christians don't have an answer to this. God just promises to fight bad and that all this is temporary before life without pain (sound like some spiritual world to me, there are different theological takes on this tho) takes place. The question is did God need to create laws of nature so rough in order to have all the balance and human life on planet earth. What's the point of all of this? Is God doing enough. Are we doing enough. There are a lot of sickness but also ways to heal or help pain. A lot of corruption and human right issues and abuse but also law and obedience can take place and bring humans to good things. It's a constant fight, human beings are selfish but also it's a team game and many great things are based on humility, loyalty, love, sacrifice and forgiveness. So it depends on how we look at the whole things.

Are issues like horrifying conditions a problem of evil like EB (Epidermolysis Bullosa)?

[Tanais]

Why do you bring karma to it? It is not something that features in 'Christian theology' that we're talking about.

I am not talking about religion, but your natural antennas.

[Methuselah]

Are issues like horrifying conditions a problem of evil like EB (Epidermolysis Bullosa)?

Yes, anything from narcissism to schizophrenia and EB to diabetes or cancer is a part of problem of evil. But it also depends whether we count natural evil and how we define that natural evil. Existence of those painful things can motivate us to fight and to invent tools to deal with them but is still tricky since there is that question "why so much pain existsts?".

[Lemminkäinen]

We all evolved from single cell. How did all cells know from the start where they were and how to specialize to create different organs? Despite this all cell hold same dna. We have still a lot of unkown things before having answers to basic questions of the life.

[catgeorge]

If that is true and we all come from a single cell then how does each individual think for itself in different ways - even animals.

If we all came from a single cell then we would all look the same even with snakes.

Scientists are too inept to answer the question of the soul.

[Batavia]

If that is true and we all come from a single cell then how does each individual think for itself in different ways - even animals.

If we all came from a single cell then we would all look the same even with snakes.

Scientists are too inept to answer the question of the soul.

Many biologists do not assume that there is a soul and I agree with them.
We are just intelligent apes.

[Lemminkäinen]

If that is true and we all come from a single cell then how does each individual think for itself in different ways - even animals.

If we all came from a single cell then we would all look the same even with snakes.

Scientists are too inept to answer the question of the soul.

True. It is also question about physics, nuclear physics, matter, determinism, causality, randomness. These are words without deep principles behind. There are a few physical laws in our macroworld, but not known reasons why the worldis like we understand it. We are far away from understanding of the life.