Bosniak Gedmatch results

[Varda]

Lots of propaganda spread around here. Recently my father's haplogroup had additional markers tested, and testing was even paid by one Serb who belongs to same I-A5913 subclade. Turns out, my father's branch has no any recent relation with Bosnian and Montenegrin Serbs there that are ultimately of eastern Herzegovina origin. However he is possibly in same branch as one Istrian Croat who has deep origin exactly from pre-Ottoman western Bosnia. Remains to be seen, but now is confirmed he does not share any recent ancestry with Serbs.

And using Bosniensis who is quater Gorani as some sort of example of typical genetics in the region is misleading. He's a muslim Serb who even has recent ancestors from Montenegro and Croatia included.

https://forum.poreklo.rs/index.php?t...0946#msg160946

Prevod na latinicu.

Srbi iz srednjeg Pounja...
Mogao sam u ovaj presek uračunati i testirane iz krajeva bliže Sani (Lušci Palanka, Budimlić Japra, Majkić Japra, itd), pošto je to stanovništvo praktično istog porekla, ali kako kod muslimana nisam računao testirane odatle, iste kriterijume zadržao sam i za Srba.

Iako uzorak nije zadovoljavajući, rezultati jesu dosta slični. Moguće da muslimani imaju nešto više R1a, mada su i srpski rodovi koji pripadaju ovoj haplogrupi prilično razgranati na prostoru Srednjeg Pounja. Generalno je povišena I1-P109 u ovom delu Bosanske Krajine, što se vidi i kod Srba i kod muslimana. Procenti ostalih haplogrupa se takođe prilično poklapaju. Odudara jedino nizak procenat R1b kod Srba, ali ova je haplogrupa generalno slabo zastupljena kod ktajiških Srba.

[Jana]

I now have final proof my paternal lineage has no relations with Serbs. But I knew that from before, since it has a hotspot in western Herzegovina and surname peaks among Croats while among Serbs it does not exist. There's a Pole with potential Rusyn origin in that branch, would be cool if my father was related to him instead, but for that I'd need to do a deeper test.

[Varda]

I now have final proof my paternal lineage has no relations with Serbs. But I knew that from before, since it has a hotspot in western Herzegovina and surname peaks among Croats while among Serbs it does not exist. There's a Pole with potential Rusyn origin in that branch, would be cool if my father was related to him instead, but for that I'd need to do a deeper test.

What about Serbs from East Herzegovina and Romanija who belong to same branch as your pape?

[Jana]

What about Serbs from East Herzegovina and Romanija who belong to same branch as your pape?

Did two additional STR markers tests, but my father is negative for them. It means they belong to different subbranches than him.

https://yfull.com/tree/I-A5913/

Serbs are under I-A22312 sub-branch of A5913 as you can see. My dad isn't however. So no common ancestors in last 1500 years at least, if I am reading the chart well.

[Leto]

Bosniak. Very Nordo-Slavic! Y DNA is I2-PF3634

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 37.42
2 North_Atlantic 22.68
3 West_Med 15.39
4 East_Med 11.58
5 West_Asian 9.47
6 Amerindian 1.05
7 Red_Sea 0.9
8 Siberian 0.69
9 Sub-Saharan 0.69
10 Northeast_African 0.09

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 4.28
2 Croatian 4.93
3 Ukrainian_Lviv 8.84
4 Ukrainian 9.77
5 Hungarian 10.39
6 South_Polish 10.49
7 Serbian 10.56
8 Southwest_Russian 12.43
9 Ukrainian_Belgorod 12.62
10 Romanian 13.07
11 Polish 13.22
12 Bulgarian 14.34
13 Russian_Smolensk 14.55
14 East_German 14.63
15 Austrian 14.79
16 Estonian_Polish 15.02
17 Belorussian 15.93
18 Kargopol_Russian 16.68
19 Erzya 17.62
20 Tatar 19.71

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 82.5% Ukrainian + 17.5% Cyprian @ 2.9
2 58.4% Bulgarian + 41.6% Lithuanian @ 3.07
3 53.8% Southwest_Russian + 46.2% Bulgarian @ 3.22
4 53.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 46.6% Bulgarian @ 3.29
5 60.3% Ukrainian + 39.7% Bulgarian @ 3.32
6 51.2% Bulgarian + 48.8% Estonian_Polish @ 3.35
7 50.4% Bulgarian + 49.6% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.35
8 76.5% Ukrainian + 23.5% Central_Greek @ 3.39
9 65.3% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 34.7% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.49
10 83.1% Moldavian + 16.9% Southwest_Russian @ 3.53
11 60.3% Lithuanian + 39.7% Central_Greek @ 3.53
12 84.7% Ukrainian + 15.3% Lebanese_Christian @ 3.54
13 71.5% Ukrainian + 28.5% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.55
14 65.7% Southwest_Russian + 34.3% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.56
15 83.5% Moldavian + 16.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.56
16 84.5% Ukrainian + 15.5% Samaritan @ 3.6
17 53.8% Lithuanian + 46.2% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.6
18 77.4% Ukrainian + 22.6% East_Sicilian @ 3.6
19 79.1% Ukrainian + 20.9% South_Italian @ 3.63
20 88.4% Moldavian + 11.6% Erzya @ 3.63

Gedrosia 4.36 Pct
Siberian 0.31 Pct
Northwest_African 0.29 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 24.94 Pct
North_European 48.05 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African 0.6 Pct
Southwest_Asian 3.71 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 17.73 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

[Roy]

Bosniak. Very Nordo-Slavic! Y DNA is I2-PF3634

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 37.42
2 North_Atlantic 22.68
3 West_Med 15.39
4 East_Med 11.58
5 West_Asian 9.47
6 Amerindian 1.05
7 Red_Sea 0.9
8 Siberian 0.69
9 Sub-Saharan 0.69
10 Northeast_African 0.09

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 4.28
2 Croatian 4.93
3 Ukrainian_Lviv 8.84
4 Ukrainian 9.77
5 Hungarian 10.39
6 South_Polish 10.49
7 Serbian 10.56
8 Southwest_Russian 12.43
9 Ukrainian_Belgorod 12.62
10 Romanian 13.07
11 Polish 13.22
12 Bulgarian 14.34
13 Russian_Smolensk 14.55
14 East_German 14.63
15 Austrian 14.79
16 Estonian_Polish 15.02
17 Belorussian 15.93
18 Kargopol_Russian 16.68
19 Erzya 17.62
20 Tatar 19.71

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 82.5% Ukrainian + 17.5% Cyprian @ 2.9
2 58.4% Bulgarian + 41.6% Lithuanian @ 3.07
3 53.8% Southwest_Russian + 46.2% Bulgarian @ 3.22
4 53.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 46.6% Bulgarian @ 3.29
5 60.3% Ukrainian + 39.7% Bulgarian @ 3.32
6 51.2% Bulgarian + 48.8% Estonian_Polish @ 3.35
7 50.4% Bulgarian + 49.6% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.35
8 76.5% Ukrainian + 23.5% Central_Greek @ 3.39
9 65.3% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 34.7% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.49
10 83.1% Moldavian + 16.9% Southwest_Russian @ 3.53
11 60.3% Lithuanian + 39.7% Central_Greek @ 3.53
12 84.7% Ukrainian + 15.3% Lebanese_Christian @ 3.54
13 71.5% Ukrainian + 28.5% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.55
14 65.7% Southwest_Russian + 34.3% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.56
15 83.5% Moldavian + 16.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.56
16 84.5% Ukrainian + 15.5% Samaritan @ 3.6
17 53.8% Lithuanian + 46.2% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.6
18 77.4% Ukrainian + 22.6% East_Sicilian @ 3.6
19 79.1% Ukrainian + 20.9% South_Italian @ 3.63
20 88.4% Moldavian + 11.6% Erzya @ 3.63

Gedrosia 4.36 Pct
Siberian 0.31 Pct
Northwest_African 0.29 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 24.94 Pct
North_European 48.05 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African 0.6 Pct
Southwest_Asian 3.71 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 17.73 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

I agree, that Baltic score is super high for someone from Balkans.

[CommonSense]

Fully Bosniak from Bosnia. No specific towns are listed in her family tree, but judging by the surnames she is likely from Bosanska Krajina:

Spoiler!

 Kit FU4328854

Admix Results (sorted):

#	Population	Percent
1 	Baltic 	31.81
2 	North_Atlantic 	24.22
3 	West_Med 	16.88
4 	West_Asian 	12.08
5 	East_Med 	11.53
6 	Red_Sea 	1.59
7 	Siberian 	0.64
8 	Oceanian 	0.58
9 	Northeast_African 	0.31
10 	Amerindian 	0.19
11 	East_Asian 	0.17

Single Population Sharing:

#	Population (source)	Distance
1 	Moldavian 	3.58
2 	Serbian 	6.46
3 	Croatian 	6.55
4 	Romanian 	8.63
5 	Hungarian 	9.13
6 	Bulgarian 	10.34
7 	Ukrainian_Lviv 	12.46
8 	Austrian 	12.67
9 	East_German 	13.48
10 	South_Polish 	13.65
11 	Ukrainian 	13.88
12 	Polish 	16.99
13 	Ukrainian_Belgorod 	17.13
14 	Southwest_Russian 	17.16
15 	Russian_Smolensk 	18.91
16 	Greek_Thessaly 	19.12
17 	West_German 	19.23
18 	Estonian_Polish 	19.65
19 	Belorussian 	20.38
20 	Tatar 	20.6

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

#	 	Primary Population (source) 	Secondary Population (source) 	Distance
1	  	79.9%	Moldavian 	+ 	20.1%	Bulgarian 	@ 	2.55
2	  	91.1%	Moldavian 	+ 	8.9%	Central_Greek 	@ 	2.57
3	  	91%	Moldavian 	+ 	9%	Italian_Abruzzo 	@ 	2.58
4	  	77.1%	Moldavian 	+ 	22.9%	Romanian 	@ 	2.62
5	  	92.5%	Moldavian 	+ 	7.5%	South_Italian 	@ 	2.63
6	  	95%	Moldavian 	+ 	5%	Armenian 	@ 	2.66
7	  	95.1%	Moldavian 	+ 	4.9%	Georgian 	@ 	2.67
8	  	91.9%	Moldavian 	+ 	8.1%	East_Sicilian 	@ 	2.68
9	  	88.9%	Moldavian 	+ 	11.1%	Greek_Thessaly 	@ 	2.7
10	  	95.4%	Moldavian 	+ 	4.6%	Abhkasian 	@ 	2.7
11	  	92.1%	Moldavian 	+ 	7.9%	West_Sicilian 	@ 	2.75
12	  	94.7%	Moldavian 	+ 	5.3%	Cyprian 	@ 	2.76
13	  	91.2%	Moldavian 	+ 	8.8%	Tuscan 	@ 	2.77
14	  	95.3%	Moldavian 	+ 	4.7%	Georgian_Jewish 	@ 	2.8
15	  	88.4%	Croatian 	+ 	11.6%	Armenian 	@ 	2.8
16	  	94.4%	Moldavian 	+ 	5.6%	Turkish 	@ 	2.84
17	  	95.4%	Moldavian 	+ 	4.6%	Assyrian 	@ 	2.84
18	  	95.1%	Moldavian 	+ 	4.9%	Ossetian 	@ 	2.85
19	  	94.3%	Moldavian 	+ 	5.7%	Sephardic_Jewish 	@ 	2.87
20	  	95.3%	Moldavian 	+ 	4.7%	Sardinian 	@ 	2.88

[Jana]

Bosniak. Very Nordo-Slavic! Y DNA is I2-PF3634

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 37.42
2 North_Atlantic 22.68
3 West_Med 15.39
4 East_Med 11.58
5 West_Asian 9.47
6 Amerindian 1.05
7 Red_Sea 0.9
8 Siberian 0.69
9 Sub-Saharan 0.69
10 Northeast_African 0.09

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 4.28
2 Croatian 4.93
3 Ukrainian_Lviv 8.84
4 Ukrainian 9.77
5 Hungarian 10.39
6 South_Polish 10.49
7 Serbian 10.56
8 Southwest_Russian 12.43
9 Ukrainian_Belgorod 12.62
10 Romanian 13.07
11 Polish 13.22
12 Bulgarian 14.34
13 Russian_Smolensk 14.55
14 East_German 14.63
15 Austrian 14.79
16 Estonian_Polish 15.02
17 Belorussian 15.93
18 Kargopol_Russian 16.68
19 Erzya 17.62
20 Tatar 19.71

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 82.5% Ukrainian + 17.5% Cyprian @ 2.9
2 58.4% Bulgarian + 41.6% Lithuanian @ 3.07
3 53.8% Southwest_Russian + 46.2% Bulgarian @ 3.22
4 53.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 46.6% Bulgarian @ 3.29
5 60.3% Ukrainian + 39.7% Bulgarian @ 3.32
6 51.2% Bulgarian + 48.8% Estonian_Polish @ 3.35
7 50.4% Bulgarian + 49.6% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.35
8 76.5% Ukrainian + 23.5% Central_Greek @ 3.39
9 65.3% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 34.7% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.49
10 83.1% Moldavian + 16.9% Southwest_Russian @ 3.53
11 60.3% Lithuanian + 39.7% Central_Greek @ 3.53
12 84.7% Ukrainian + 15.3% Lebanese_Christian @ 3.54
13 71.5% Ukrainian + 28.5% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.55
14 65.7% Southwest_Russian + 34.3% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.56
15 83.5% Moldavian + 16.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.56
16 84.5% Ukrainian + 15.5% Samaritan @ 3.6
17 53.8% Lithuanian + 46.2% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.6
18 77.4% Ukrainian + 22.6% East_Sicilian @ 3.6
19 79.1% Ukrainian + 20.9% South_Italian @ 3.63
20 88.4% Moldavian + 11.6% Erzya @ 3.63

Gedrosia 4.36 Pct
Siberian 0.31 Pct
Northwest_African 0.29 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 24.94 Pct
North_European 48.05 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African 0.6 Pct
Southwest_Asian 3.71 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 17.73 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Any idea where in Bosnia is he from?

[Sora]

Bosniak. Very Nordo-Slavic! Y DNA is I2-PF3634

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 37.42
2 North_Atlantic 22.68
3 West_Med 15.39
4 East_Med 11.58
5 West_Asian 9.47
6 Amerindian 1.05
7 Red_Sea 0.9
8 Siberian 0.69
9 Sub-Saharan 0.69
10 Northeast_African 0.09

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 4.28
2 Croatian 4.93
3 Ukrainian_Lviv 8.84
4 Ukrainian 9.77
5 Hungarian 10.39
6 South_Polish 10.49
7 Serbian 10.56
8 Southwest_Russian 12.43
9 Ukrainian_Belgorod 12.62
10 Romanian 13.07
11 Polish 13.22
12 Bulgarian 14.34
13 Russian_Smolensk 14.55
14 East_German 14.63
15 Austrian 14.79
16 Estonian_Polish 15.02
17 Belorussian 15.93
18 Kargopol_Russian 16.68
19 Erzya 17.62
20 Tatar 19.71

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 82.5% Ukrainian + 17.5% Cyprian @ 2.9
2 58.4% Bulgarian + 41.6% Lithuanian @ 3.07
3 53.8% Southwest_Russian + 46.2% Bulgarian @ 3.22
4 53.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 46.6% Bulgarian @ 3.29
5 60.3% Ukrainian + 39.7% Bulgarian @ 3.32
6 51.2% Bulgarian + 48.8% Estonian_Polish @ 3.35
7 50.4% Bulgarian + 49.6% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.35
8 76.5% Ukrainian + 23.5% Central_Greek @ 3.39
9 65.3% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 34.7% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.49
10 83.1% Moldavian + 16.9% Southwest_Russian @ 3.53
11 60.3% Lithuanian + 39.7% Central_Greek @ 3.53
12 84.7% Ukrainian + 15.3% Lebanese_Christian @ 3.54
13 71.5% Ukrainian + 28.5% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.55
14 65.7% Southwest_Russian + 34.3% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.56
15 83.5% Moldavian + 16.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.56
16 84.5% Ukrainian + 15.5% Samaritan @ 3.6
17 53.8% Lithuanian + 46.2% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.6
18 77.4% Ukrainian + 22.6% East_Sicilian @ 3.6
19 79.1% Ukrainian + 20.9% South_Italian @ 3.63
20 88.4% Moldavian + 11.6% Erzya @ 3.63

Gedrosia 4.36 Pct
Siberian 0.31 Pct
Northwest_African 0.29 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 24.94 Pct
North_European 48.05 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African 0.6 Pct
Southwest_Asian 3.71 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 17.73 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

73% total Euro score & Nordic haplo! That's cool af!

Now I just wondered how would a Bosniak-Russian(not Northern) mix look like I guess something like ancient Slavs(?) Also there are many Slavic-Turkic mixes in Eurasian area (tho had never seen any of them cus they're not that in touch much, I guess) 1/4 Turkish + 1/4 Bosniak + 1/4 Russian + 1/4 Central Asian Turkic = The Dopest mixture in the world history

[Leto]

Any idea where in Bosnia is he from?

Unfortunately not. I don't even remember who that was, posted it exactly a month ago. Probably saw him in someone's match list.