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    A Dagestani with a whopping 30% Gedrosia. Might be partly due to the faulty V5-like Genotek raw data but still remarkable

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    Gedrosia 30.11 Pct
    Siberian 2.77 Pct
    Northwest_African -
    Southeast_Asian -
    Atlantic_Med 6.64 Pct
    North_European 23.42 Pct
    South_Asian -
    East_African -
    Southwest_Asian 3.59 Pct
    East_Asian -
    Caucasus 32.93 Pct
    Sub_Saharan 0.49 Pct

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    An Armenian with elevated Steppe ancestry

    Gedrosia 18.08 Pct
    Siberian 0.83 Pct
    Northwest_African 1.96 Pct
    Southeast_Asian -
    Atlantic_Med 10.14 Pct
    North_European 9.04 Pct
    South_Asian 0.47 Pct
    East_African -
    Southwest_Asian 12.39 Pct
    East_Asian 0.11 Pct
    Caucasus 46.98 Pct
    Sub_Saharan -

    Distance to: Elina
    1.70464105 68.00% Armenian_West + 32.00% Kumyk
    1.74370452 69.60% Armenian_West + 30.40% Chechen
    1.82193307 43.20% Adyghe + 56.80% Assyrian_West
    1.91571781 76.80% Armenian_West + 23.20% Dargin_Kaitag
    1.97004647 85.40% Armenian_East + 14.60% Dargin_Kaitag
    1.97062229 73.60% Armenian_East + 26.40% Azerbaijani_Dagestan
    1.99741711 85.40% Armenian_East + 14.60% Avar
    2.00024442 83.40% Armenian_East + 16.60% Tabasaran
    2.02380144 79.20% Armenian_East + 20.80% Kumyk
    2.04830625 75.40% Armenian_West + 24.60% Lak

    Target: Elina
    Distance: 1.9793% / 1.97928425 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    41.1 Turk_East
    34.0 Armenian_East
    14.4 Udi_Azerbaijan
    10.5 Adyghe

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    Some kind of Egyptian-Palestinian mix, maybe a mongrelized Gazan Palestinian?

    Gedrosia 8.02 Pct
    Siberian -
    Northwest_African 7.22 Pct
    Southeast_Asian 0.75 Pct
    Atlantic_Med 12.24 Pct
    North_European 0.24 Pct
    South_Asian 0.1 Pct
    East_African 6.17 Pct
    Southwest_Asian 25.36 Pct
    East_Asian -
    Caucasus 35.89 Pct
    Sub_Saharan 4.01 Pct

    Distance to: Musa
    4.20691098 Jordanian_Muslim
    4.83411833 Palestinian
    8.12064037 Syrian_Muslim
    9.20123361 Lebanese_Muslim
    9.55108894 Egyptian
    9.59071426 Jordanian_Christian
    9.88866523 Syrian_SW_Christian
    10.30972842 Palestinian_Christian
    10.84578259 Coptic
    11.97228048 Iraqi_Arab

    Distance to: Musa
    2.15511471 56.20% Egyptian + 43.80% Lebanese_Christian
    2.16387222 51.00% Egyptian + 49.00% Syrian_SW_Christian
    2.23053002 52.00% Egyptian + 48.00% Palestinian_Christian
    2.29059052 62.80% Egyptian + 37.20% Iraqi_Jew
    2.44051525 63.80% Egyptian + 36.20% Kurdish_Jew
    2.44574691 50.20% Egyptian + 49.80% Jordanian_Christian
    2.68842751 30.40% Egyptian + 69.60% Palestinian
    2.69926009 66.80% Egyptian + 33.20% Assyrian_West
    2.76861062 66.60% Egyptian + 33.40% Assyrian_South
    2.85537503 67.60% Egyptian + 32.40% Assyrian_North

    Target: Musa
    Distance: 1.3129% / 1.31294111 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    24.0 Jordanian_Muslim
    20.9 Egyptian
    19.8 Coptic
    19.5 Syrian_SW_Christian
    8.4 Palestinian
    5.5 Hemshin
    1.9 Yoruba

    Target: Musa
    Distance: 2.0059% / 2.00593890 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    37.9 Egyptian
    31.4 Jordanian_Muslim
    30.7 Jordanian_Christian

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    An Uzbek from Samarkand living in California. Probably posted here in the past, maybe last year. He is quite fair-skinned, even has light eyes. Looks more like a Tatar from Russia rather than Uzbeks who are much more dark-skinned.

    N-L708
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    Gedrosia 14.1 Pct
    Siberian 19.67 Pct
    Northwest_African -
    Southeast_Asian 1.7 Pct
    Atlantic_Med 5.05 Pct
    North_European 16.61 Pct
    South_Asian 3.75 Pct
    East_African -
    Southwest_Asian 1.28 Pct
    East_Asian 24.2 Pct
    Caucasus 13.64 Pct
    Sub_Saharan -

    Distance to: O.B.
    5.83358380 Nogai_Stavropol
    6.41715669 Karakalpak
    7.18629251 Uzbeki
    7.45812309 Turkmen_Afghanistan
    9.65393702 Uyghur_Xinjiang
    10.27526642 Nogai_Astrakhan
    10.45489837 Uzbek
    12.73833584 Hazara
    13.43369272 Kazakh
    15.07149959 Kyrgyz_Pamir

    Distance to: O.B.
    1.46549612 53.00% Karakalpak + 47.00% Uzbeki
    1.47168993 54.00% Karakalpak + 46.00% Turkmen_Afghanistan
    1.67161360 40.80% Nogai_Astrakhan + 59.20% Uzbeki
    1.74597941 68.20% Kazakh + 31.80% Tajik_Lowland
    1.82736239 66.20% Kazakh + 33.80% Tajik_Mountain
    1.84485299 35.20% Kazakh + 64.80% Turkmen_Afghanistan
    1.84753543 82.40% Karakalpak + 17.60% Tajik_Lowland
    1.86361500 81.00% Karakalpak + 19.00% Tajik_Mountain
    1.88334386 71.80% Kazakh + 28.20% Yaghnobi_Tajikistan
    1.94415721 34.20% Kazakh + 65.80% Uzbeki

    Target: O.B.
    Distance: 1.1624% / 1.16238718 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    52.5 Karakalpak
    24.1 Uzbeki
    23.4 Turkmen_Afghanistan



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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    An Uzbek from Samarkand living in California. Probably posted here in the past, maybe last year. He is quite fair-skinned, even has light eyes. Looks more like a Tatar from Russia rather than Uzbeks who are much more dark-skinned.

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    Gedrosia 14.1 Pct
    Siberian 19.67 Pct
    Northwest_African -
    Southeast_Asian 1.7 Pct
    Atlantic_Med 5.05 Pct
    North_European 16.61 Pct
    South_Asian 3.75 Pct
    East_African -
    Southwest_Asian 1.28 Pct
    East_Asian 24.2 Pct
    Caucasus 13.64 Pct
    Sub_Saharan -

    Distance to: O.B.
    5.83358380 Nogai_Stavropol
    6.41715669 Karakalpak
    7.18629251 Uzbeki
    7.45812309 Turkmen_Afghanistan
    9.65393702 Uyghur_Xinjiang
    10.27526642 Nogai_Astrakhan
    10.45489837 Uzbek
    12.73833584 Hazara
    13.43369272 Kazakh
    15.07149959 Kyrgyz_Pamir

    Distance to: O.B.
    1.46549612 53.00% Karakalpak + 47.00% Uzbeki
    1.47168993 54.00% Karakalpak + 46.00% Turkmen_Afghanistan
    1.67161360 40.80% Nogai_Astrakhan + 59.20% Uzbeki
    1.74597941 68.20% Kazakh + 31.80% Tajik_Lowland
    1.82736239 66.20% Kazakh + 33.80% Tajik_Mountain
    1.84485299 35.20% Kazakh + 64.80% Turkmen_Afghanistan
    1.84753543 82.40% Karakalpak + 17.60% Tajik_Lowland
    1.86361500 81.00% Karakalpak + 19.00% Tajik_Mountain
    1.88334386 71.80% Kazakh + 28.20% Yaghnobi_Tajikistan
    1.94415721 34.20% Kazakh + 65.80% Uzbeki

    Target: O.B.
    Distance: 1.1624% / 1.16238718 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    52.5 Karakalpak
    24.1 Uzbeki
    23.4 Turkmen_Afghanistan


    Does he get mistaken for White in the states or he just look like a hapa with light color eyes? Wondering because it looks like he is 45% Mong

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joqool View Post
    Does he get mistaken for White in the states or he just look like a hapa with light color eyes? Wondering because it looks like he is 45% Mong
    Clearly the latter
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    With 40+% East Eurasian it's virtually impossible to look white. Hell, many Tatars with 20% look either hapa or Central Asian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
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    This men looks very Nogay/Tatar, definitely atypical for Uzbek. I saw some with blue eyes but they still had similar skin color like most Persians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gecko View Post
    This men looks very Nogay/Tatar, definitely atypical for Uzbek. I saw some with blue eyes but they still had similar skin color like most Persians.
    Yep, he might be similar to some Early Turkics.

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    Okay, two more that I've got

    Jordanian (photo). He is pretty much purely Levantine despite him being Muslim

    Gedrosia 11.26 Pct
    Siberian -
    Northwest_African 5.2 Pct
    Southeast_Asian -
    Atlantic_Med 14.08 Pct
    North_European -
    South_Asian -
    East_African 1.71 Pct
    Southwest_Asian 25.8 Pct
    East_Asian -
    Caucasus 41.94 Pct
    Sub_Saharan -

    Distance to: Wajdi
    2.29673682 Syrian_SW_Christian
    2.94801628 Palestinian_Christian
    3.16507504 Jordanian_Christian
    4.50961196 Lebanese_Christian
    6.99644195 Palestinian
    7.59676247 Lebanese_Muslim
    7.76459915 Nusayri_Turkey
    7.98785328 Jordanian_Muslim
    8.14393639 Syrian_Muslim
    8.82803489 Iraqi_Jew

    Distance to: Wajdi
    1.64675576 3.40% Balochi + 96.60% Syrian_SW_Christian
    1.64733660 12.20% Mandean + 87.80% Syrian_SW_Christian
    1.68306506 9.80% Arab_Iran + 90.20% Syrian_SW_Christian
    1.73601385 10.60% Iraqi_Arab + 89.40% Syrian_SW_Christian
    1.73783452 3.80% Iranian_Bandari + 96.20% Syrian_SW_Christian
    1.74523452 14.80% Iraqi_Jew + 85.20% Syrian_SW_Christian
    1.74548016 6.20% Iranian_Lur + 93.80% Syrian_SW_Christian
    1.75804461 4.60% Iranian_Mazandaran + 95.40% Syrian_SW_Christian
    1.75906621 6.00% Kurd_Feyli + 94.00% Syrian_SW_Christian
    1.78089972 10.20% Iraqi_Baghdad + 89.80% Syrian_SW_Christian

    Target: Wajdi
    Distance: 1.4908% / 1.49080395 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    82.9 Syrian_SW_Christian
    9.9 Iraqi_Jew
    7.2 Iraqi_Arab


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    Gedrosia 21.61 Pct
    Siberian 3.5 Pct
    Northwest_African 0.26 Pct
    Southeast_Asian -
    Atlantic_Med 9.74 Pct
    North_European 16.12 Pct
    South_Asian -
    East_African -
    Southwest_Asian 2.73 Pct
    East_Asian 1.64 Pct
    Caucasus 44.4 Pct
    Sub_Saharan -

    Distance to: Hadi
    4.95711610 Ingush
    5.78268104 Adyghe
    6.39901555 Circassian
    6.45652383 Karachay
    6.59567282 Ossetian
    6.63514129 Abazin
    6.95816786 Kabardin
    7.23333948 Balkar
    7.35821989 Kumyk
    7.36729258 Chechen

    Distance to: Hadi
    3.03313403 93.60% Ingush + 6.40% Sardinian
    3.58799523 8.00% French_Corsica + 92.00% Ingush
    3.66306914 89.40% Ingush + 10.60% Italian_Campania
    3.67140862 11.40% Greek_Icaria + 88.60% Ingush
    3.71386780 10.40% Italian_Molise + 89.60% Ingush
    3.71717958 89.20% Ingush + 10.80% Italian_Calabria
    3.73166858 12.20% Greek_Rhodes + 87.80% Ingush
    3.74181436 89.60% Ingush + 10.40% Italian_Abruzzo
    3.74442399 11.00% Italian_Basilicata + 89.00% Ingush
    3.74649272 90.20% Ingush + 9.80% Sephardic_Jews

    Target: Hadi
    Distance: 2.5580% / 2.55802109 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    83.8 Ingush
    9.2 Georgian_West
    7.0 Sardinian

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Clearly the latter
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    With 40+% East Eurasian it's virtually impossible to look white. Hell, many Tatars with 20% look either hapa or Central Asian.
    Interesting. So what's the highest amount of Mong can someone still look white in your opinion? It's fascinating to me because its seems to be the opposite for Kazakhs, many of them still look pure NE Asian/Siberian and don't show any Caucasoid in their phenos despite being 40% West Eurasian.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto
    An Uzbek from Samarkand
    I must confess that his results look almost purely ancient Turkic! Also not all Uzbeks are dark at all, there can be many light skinned Uzbeks too, I've even seen an Uzbek girl with ghost light skin. So, Uzbeks are too cosmopolitan on phenotypes just like Turks. I even know an Uzbek influencer guy with ancient Kipchak look(weird af)! He has natural blond hair but very Mongoloid face He calls himself "Zolotoy blogger"

    The Moscow-based Uzbek young singer Gafur Isakhanov (Гафур) looks predominantly Arab although he is mostly Uzbek(his grandma is said to be Moroccan). I was even shocked when I've learnt he is Uzbek, also told myself "If he is Uzbek, then I'm Polynesian"


    (A.k.a "The Berbero-Mongol kid" he can pass as pure Berber in Moroccan highlands & Algero-Moroccan coast + a Bedouin boi in Arabian desert)

    BTW, isn't Samarkand at least 70% Tajik? It's too unusual to see a high Mongoloid result from there
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Some Dags look really archaic. This is a Lak from Dagestan. A fucking huge percentage of European admixture!

    Gedrosia 28.61 Pct
    Siberian 2.66 Pct
    Northwest_African -
    Southeast_Asian 0.42 Pct
    Atlantic_Med 2.81 Pct
    North_European 30.75 Pct
    South_Asian -
    East_African -
    Southwest_Asian 0.94 Pct
    East_Asian -
    Caucasus 33.82 Pct
    Sub_Saharan -
    Another Lak from Dagestan. This one is even more extreme.

    Lak_Dagestan,27,2.45,0,0,1.1,31.46,0,0,1.54,0.59,35.87,0

    Distance to: Lak_Dagestan
    6.27324477 Dargin_Kaitag
    6.41619046 Dargin
    6.92894653 Avar
    7.45475687 Dargin_Kubachi
    8.16050856 Lak
    10.05225348 Tabasaran
    11.07859648 Lezgin
    13.92956927 Chechen
    15.34582354 Kumyk
    17.21677380 Ingush
    18.20702886 Balkar
    18.52495074 Kabardin
    18.65090346 Yaghnobi_Tajikistan
    19.39032233 Karachay
    19.73855618 Abazin
    19.98582247 Circassian
    20.36837500 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
    20.69042532 Adyghe
    21.22282733 Ossetian
    21.70865726 Tajik_Lowland
    22.26165987 Nogai
    22.64945253 Pamiri_Rushan
    23.40587533 Tajik_Mountain
    23.55995968 Ossetian_South
    23.62583120 Pamiri_Shughnan

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