"35%-55% Ashkenazis are of European Descent"

[PetiteParisienne]

What do you mean when you ask: are jews European? Are you using that as a synonym for "white". If so would you consider white Americans to be European? These questions are for anyone who has been discussing whether or not jews are Europeans and anyone on an side of that issue.

Good point. White =/= European.

[Thunor]

Fancy genetics charts are bollocks? But then what decides who is European, if not a shared genetic heritage and culture?

(And culture can be learned, too. A negroid who speaks Queen's English and graduates from Oxford is still not an European.)

That guy could very well be one hundred percent Sicilian (and probably is).

That's just evidence to how racially mixed the Sicilians are.

People like him exist not just in Italy but also in Greece, Cyprus and a few parts of the Balkans and there is nothing wrong with that.

People like him are a result of Non-European contamination, and there's clearly something wrong with that. I wouldn't want any pure Europeans ("white people") to mix with that guy and reproduce.

[Beorn]

Can a Jew be English?: No, we are our own ethnicity.

No.

Can a Jew be British?: Yes, as a citizen (they have a British passport), but the concept of a British ethnic group includes only the native British peoples (English, Welsh, Scottish, Irish, Cornish, Manx, Channel Islanders).

so why imply they are British citizens? You may as well call them kin and be done with it.

Are Jews European?: Undecided. Ashkenazi are the most likely group if any are accepted, the rest have no chance.
They're very Europeanised at least, so I'll call them "Europeanised" for now.

You had trouble considering them as British a minute a go, now they are "undecided" Europeans?

What about people with minor Jewish ancestry?: Depends upon the majority of their ancestry, if they are mainly of British ancestry and identify as British or one of the native ethnicities then I'd regard them as British.

Till you broach the subject of their particular ancestry.

Non-religious Jews?: The same rules apply, although they'd probably assimilate into the general population over time if they mixed with non-Jews.

Bah! Assimilation. John Barnes is assimilated. Just see how well assimilated he was the other day.

[Sikeliot]

That's just evidence to how racially mixed the Sicilians are.


People like him are a result of Non-European contamination, and there's clearly something wrong with that. I wouldn't want any pure Europeans ("white people") to mix with that guy and reproduce.

You're correct about "non-European" input, but it's not racial mixture. Middle Easterners are Caucasoids. That man is not the result of Negroid or Mongoloid input.

[Beorn]

No, but I'd rather us have a few less enemies and a few more people who'd watch our back. It isn't a difficult concept.

LOL! Let's make room for non-English people. At least they'll go onto have non-English children. So preservationist.

What do you mean when you ask: are jews European? Are you using that as a synonym for "white".

No, we are not.

[StonyArabia]

It might have been better had I said "Semitic" instead of West Asian.

Indeed, since the Semitic is the dubbed term for the SouthWest Asian component, and this is a non-European component, being distinct and it peaks in the Arabian Desert tribesmen, often found in unaltered forms. There is no way that SouthWest Asian/Semitic admix in Sicily is neolthic everything points to it being recent, and it's due to the conquest of Central Arabian tribes.

[Thunor]

You're correct about "non-European" input, but it's not racial mixture. Middle Easterners are Caucasoids. That man is not the result of Negroid or Mongoloid input.

That's why the semi-official term "Europid" exists in the first place, to describe the racial types in Europe. Caucasoid is a huge racial category and basically includes everything that is not Negroid or Mongoloid.

The majority of Middle-Easterners are not racially Europid. Anyone can see that Osama bin Laden is not an European.

[Albion]

There are those on the Continent who will disagree, as well as some American Anglophiles.

Oh well, screw 'em.

I agree in part, but I have seen polling that indicates the British, particularly the younger ones, see their future more in Europe than with America. That may be switching back now though with the clusterfuck that is the EU crisis.

Europe is seen as the Soviet Union was seen in the past, as the trendy alternative to America. People like an underdog, especially far left students. Fortunately most grow up.

In any case, there is little doubt where Americans stand here. Americans are very pro-British and much less pro-Europe (though we're that too). Hopefully Britain won't turn on us.

I doubt Britain will turn against America.

[Hess]

I wouldn't want any pure Europeans ("white people") to mix with that guy and reproduce.

I define "pure European" as any person of wholly European descent. Greeks, South Italians, and a few other groups have a significant percentage of W+SW Asian admix (From Antiquity), but that doesn't change the fact that they are Europeans whether we like it or not.

We can't just excommunicate parts of Europe because we feel that they aren't "pure" enough by dubious nordicist racial standards.

[PetiteParisienne]

[QUOTE=Albion;737716]
Europe is seen as the Soviet Union was seen in the past, as the trendy alternative to America. People like an underdog, especially far left students. Fortunately most grow up.
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I'm not so sure. I see a lot of lost causes.