German GEDmatch results

[rothaer]

How? Through peaceful means?

No, by a short war. But not by Germany. With the help of the Russians it was taken and with the help of the Russians it will be given back. They will make it free, give it back and keep the rest and get international support for that. Of course only after a respective agreement between Russia and the NATO, so there is no risk for any wider conflict or nuclear engagement. In contrast, that agreement will satisfy all sides and secure peace. Russia will obligate itself to not help China in a possible conflict with the USA. That is much more important to the USA then messing with Russia because of Poland, Lithuania, Georgia or whatever other ex Soviet sphere state or non-state.

[rothaer]

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[Peterski]

No, by a short war. But not by Germany. With the help of the Russians it was taken and with the help of the Russians it will be given back. They will make it free, give it back and keep the rest and get international support for that. Of course only after a respective agreement between Russia and the NATO, so there is no risk for any wider conflict or nuclear engagement. In contrast, that agreement will satisfy all sides and secure peace. Russia will obligate itself to not help China in a possible conflict with the USA. That is much more important to the USA then messing with Russia because of Poland, Lithuania, Georgia or whatever other ex Soviet sphere state or non-state.

This scenario is never going to happen, Germans are delusional if they hope for it. Russians are aware that Slavic should be spoken as far west as the Elbe & Hamburg.

In just 12 years of national socialism you wasted several centuries of Drang nach Osten. After one more war you will waste all 1000 years of Drang nach Osten (which means Re-Slavicization of the Elbe-Oder region).

If you ask for Russian help you already show weakness. But it is indeed true that Germans were never able to defeat Poland without Russian help (there is not a single instance in history). Maybe the Teutonic Order should have asked for Russian help?

BTW, one of the purposes of the Oder-Neisse line is to prevent a short war as you called it. This border is very defensible. You can no longer invade Poland from three sides (North, West and South) like you did in 1939.

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Germany is like an antisocial 13-year old bully boy in a school who thinks he is superior to other kids and who is surprised that he gets expelled from school for severely beating other kids. Absolute crybaby with total lack of capability to take responsibility for own actions. Deportation of Germans was a direct consequence of their actions in 1933-45.

[rothaer]

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For prevent Tomenable from already now getting KIA by a heart attack, we better return to the thread topic of German GEDmatch results.

[Leto]

Some guy with the surname Nürnberger which literally means from Nuremberg. May be Southern German indeed.

North_Atlantic 40.73 Pct
Baltic 27.24 Pct
West_Med 14.71 Pct
West_Asian 4.22 Pct
East_Med 11.91 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 1.03 Pct
Oceanian 0.16 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Austrian 5.93
2 West_German 6.19
3 South_Dutch 7.33
4 East_German 7.46
5 Hungarian 9.1
6 North_German 9.95
7 French 10.33
8 Southeast_English 10.96
9 Danish 11.66
10 North_Dutch 11.91
11 Orcadian 12.69
12 Swedish 12.89
13 Serbian 13.35
14 Norwegian 13.4
15 Southwest_English 13.45
16 Irish 14.04
17 West_Scottish 14.56
18 North_Swedish 14.68
19 Croatian 14.73
20 Moldavian 16.18

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 55.4% Southeast_English + 44.6% Serbian @ 3.78
2 63.8% West_German + 36.2% Hungarian @ 4.15
3 58.2% North_Swedish + 41.8% North_Italian @ 4.15
4 55.6% Hungarian + 44.4% Southeast_English @ 4.18
5 57.4% South_Dutch + 42.6% Hungarian @ 4.21
6 84% West_German + 16% Belorussian @ 4.32
7 52.2% Austrian + 47.8% West_German @ 4.34
8 84.2% West_German + 15.8% Estonian_Polish @ 4.34
9 71.4% French + 28.6% Belorussian @ 4.35
10 81.1% West_German + 18.9% Ukrainian @ 4.35
11 78.9% West_German + 21.1% South_Polish @ 4.36
12 51.4% Orcadian + 48.6% Serbian @ 4.39
13 84% West_German + 16% Southwest_Russian @ 4.39
14 76.3% West_German + 23.7% Croatian @ 4.39
15 58.3% West_German + 41.7% East_German @ 4.49
16 61.8% Southeast_English + 38.2% Romanian @ 4.49
17 65.6% Southeast_English + 34.4% Bulgarian @ 4.51
18 82.3% West_German + 17.7% Polish @ 4.52
19 84.6% West_German + 15.4% Russian_Smolensk @ 4.54
20 63.1% North_Swedish + 36.9% Tuscan @ 4.54

I've confirmed, he is actually from Bavaria or rather Mittelfranken. A legit Southern German. Though his Y DNA is very non-Aryan: https://yfull.com/tree/J-Z2215/

His results with higher SNP raw data plus his moms'

North_Atlantic 41.82 Pct
Baltic 25.76 Pct
West_Med 12.85 Pct
West_Asian 4.94 Pct
East_Med 13.23 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian 0.09 Pct
Amerindian 0.73 Pct
Oceanian 0.57 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

North_Atlantic 44.06 Pct
Baltic 24.55 Pct
West_Med 14.36 Pct
West_Asian 5.12 Pct
East_Med 8.69 Pct
Red_Sea 1.33 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.46 Pct
Oceanian 0.78 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.64 Pct

[Jana]

I've confirmed, he is actually from Bavaria or rather Mittelfranken. A legit Southern German. Though his Y DNA is very non-Aryan: https://yfull.com/tree/J-Z2215/

His results with higher SNP raw data plus his moms'

North_Atlantic 41.82 Pct
Baltic 25.76 Pct
West_Med 12.85 Pct
West_Asian 4.94 Pct
East_Med 13.23 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian 0.09 Pct
Amerindian 0.73 Pct
Oceanian 0.57 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

North_Atlantic 44.06 Pct
Baltic 24.55 Pct
West_Med 14.36 Pct
West_Asian 5.12 Pct
East_Med 8.69 Pct
Red_Sea 1.33 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.46 Pct
Oceanian 0.78 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.64 Pct

grandparents are from there too? If yes, I will add to German samples list.

[Jana]

From Lower Franconia

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 37.54
2 Baltic 24.83
3 West_Med 17.69
4 East_Med 11.87
5 West_Asian 6.24
6 Amerindian 1.3
7 Red_Sea 0.53

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Austrian 6.46
2 West_German 6.79
3 South_Dutch 8.04
4 French 8.6
5 East_German 8.67
6 Hungarian 9.04
7 Serbian 10.67
8 North_German 12.86
9 Southeast_English 13.34
10 Romanian 13.46
11 Croatian 14.03
12 Spanish_Cataluna 14.3
13 Moldavian 14.54
14 Portuguese 14.7
15 Danish 14.74
16 North_Dutch 14.84
17 Spanish_Galicia 14.85
18 Orcadian 15.21
19 Southwest_English 15.3
20 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 15.56

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 61.7% Hungarian + 38.3% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.26
2 69.1% Hungarian + 30.9% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.38
3 73.2% Austrian + 26.8% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.49
4 65.2% Hungarian + 34.8% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.55
5 73.7% Austrian + 26.3% Spanish_Murcia @ 2.67
6 51.4% French + 48.6% Hungarian @ 2.7
7 73.1% Austrian + 26.9% North_Italian @ 2.72
8 75.7% Austrian + 24.3% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.76
9 66.9% Hungarian + 33.1% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.77
10 55.1% Southeast_English + 44.9% Bulgarian @ 2.79
11 70.7% Austrian + 29.3% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.79
12 62.8% French + 37.2% Croatian @ 2.79
13 66% Hungarian + 34% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.81
14 71.3% Austrian + 28.7% Portuguese @ 2.83
15 66% East_German + 34% North_Italian @ 2.86
16 64.1% Hungarian + 35.9% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2.89
17 73.9% Austrian + 26.1% Spanish_Extremadura @ 2.92
18 50.2% Southeast_English + 49.8% Romanian @ 2.92
19 65.8% Hungarian + 34.2% Spanish_Murcia @ 2.96
20 65.8% Hungarian + 34.2% Southwest_French @ 3.05


Gedrosia 6.78 Pct
Siberian 0.25 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 36 Pct
North_European 39.38 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 3.53 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 14.06 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Baden-Württemberg:
North_Atlantic 37.78 Pct
Baltic 33.28 Pct
West_Med 11.05 Pct
West_Asian 4.87 Pct
East_Med 9.17 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 1.66 Pct
East_Asian 0.44 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian 1.1 Pct
Oceanian 0.33 Pct
Northeast_African 0.33 Pct
Sub-Saharan -

Berlin:
North_Atlantic 46.94 Pct
Baltic 26.21 Pct
West_Med 12.93 Pct
West_Asian 6.08 Pct
East_Med 4.73 Pct
Red_Sea 0.22 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian 1.12 Pct
Siberian 0.69 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.15 Pct
Northeast_African 0.77 Pct
Sub-Saharan 0.16 Pct

Mecklenburg-Vorpommern:
North_Atlantic 40.17 Pct
Baltic 36.4 Pct
West_Med 10 Pct
West_Asian 3.71 Pct
East_Med 8.02 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian 0.58 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.34 Pct
Northeast_African 0.75 Pct
Sub-Saharan -

These are from there on grandparent level too? Any specific locations? Just checking.

[J. Ketch]

It would be good to split Bavaria and Southwest Germany once there's enough kits, they do seem quite different.

[Leto]

grandparents are from there too? If yes, I will add to German samples list.

No but you can see their results are in line with what we know or expect. The same goes for the Mecklenburg woman which was overlooked because of my poor comment.

[J. Ketch]

No but you can see their results are in line with what we know or expect. The same goes for the Mecklenburg woman which was overlooked because of my poor comment.

The Baden-Wurttemberg one is not in line with that region, looks East German. And the Berlin one looks West German.