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Thread: Large-Scale Migration into Southern Britain During the Middle to Late Bronze Age

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    Quote Originally Posted by Defcon2 View Post
    Target: Juan
    Distance: 12.4712% / 12.47119255
    79.2 Gaulish
    18.7 Roman
    2.1 SSA





    Your high distances indicate that you have not run it well, you have to use K13 coordinates.
    My distances aren't high. It is 2.314. Your distances are much higher. I have used K13 and it just depends on the Vahaduo you use.

    Target: Grace
    Distance: 2.3148% / 2.31479278
    54.3 Germanic
    45.0 Insular_Celtic
    0.7 Roman

    I've done it again and get Roman this time instead of Balkanic. The first one I used was this one. It just puts the first figure in a percentage and the second figure as decimal. Your figures are 12.471 compared to mine which is 2.314.

    https://vahaduo.github.io/vahaduo/
    The Irish Brigade's battle cry at Fontenoy, "Cuimhnigí ar Luimneach agus ar feall na Sasanaigh," translates to "Remember Limerick and the treachery of the English." After seeing the devastation caused by the Irish Brigade, the Duke of Cumberland reportedly remarked, "God curse the laws that made those men our enemies".


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    Just an example of the differences depending on what you use.

    Using Vahaduo with Gedmatch and replacing the source content this is what I get.

    https://vahaduo.genetics.ovh/k13-vahaduo.htm



    Using this vahaduo https://vahaduo.github.io/vahaduo/ this is the result.



    So distances are actually closer on the one above.
    The Irish Brigade's battle cry at Fontenoy, "Cuimhnigí ar Luimneach agus ar feall na Sasanaigh," translates to "Remember Limerick and the treachery of the English." After seeing the devastation caused by the Irish Brigade, the Duke of Cumberland reportedly remarked, "God curse the laws that made those men our enemies".


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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley View Post
    My distances aren't high. It is 2.314. Your distances are much higher. I have used K13 and it just depends on the Vahaduo you use.

    Target: Grace
    Distance: 2.3148% / 2.31479278
    54.3 Germanic
    45.0 Insular_Celtic
    0.7 Roman

    I've done it again and get Roman this time instead of Balkanic. The first one I used was this one. It just puts the first figure in a percentage and the second figure as decimal. Your figures are 12.471 compared to mine which is 2.314.

    https://vahaduo.github.io/vahaduo/
    Lol it's true, I didn't think it could be done from the official Vahaduo. I suppose that the long distances are due to the lack of Iberian references.

    Target: Defcon2
    Distance: 1247.1331% / 12.47133052
    79.2 Gaulish
    18.6 Roman
    2.2 SSA

    Personally it is similar to the result of a G25 model that I got.

    [1] "distance%=1.9178"

    NW_Iberia_IA,79.8
    Roman_Colonial,12.4
    Berber_EMA,7.8

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    Quote Originally Posted by Defcon2 View Post
    Lol it's true, I didn't think it could be done from the official Vahaduo. I suppose that the long distances are due to the lack of Iberian references.

    Target: Defcon2
    Distance: 1247.1331% / 12.47133052
    79.2 Gaulish
    18.6 Roman
    2.2 SSA

    Personally it is similar to the result of a G25 model that I got.

    [1] "distance%=1.9178"

    NW_Iberia_IA,79.8
    Roman_Colonial,12.4
    Berber_EMA,7.8
    I think IBD would be more informative. I would like to see a good study looking at IBD between populations.
    The Irish Brigade's battle cry at Fontenoy, "Cuimhnigí ar Luimneach agus ar feall na Sasanaigh," translates to "Remember Limerick and the treachery of the English." After seeing the devastation caused by the Irish Brigade, the Duke of Cumberland reportedly remarked, "God curse the laws that made those men our enemies".


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    Looking forward to having a good look, when get laptop sorted again in next day. Iron age samples in East coast Cumbric speaking now Lothian and the Pictish areas!

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    Target: Father(Picardie)
    Distance: 6.2175% / 6.21747216
    52.6 Insular_Celtic
    47.4 Gaulish

    Distance to: Father(Picardie)
    10.54755896 Insular_Celtic
    11.33147387 Gaulish
    16.07118228 Germanic
    32.64046415 Roman
    36.23517076 Balkanic
    40.17026886 Finnic
    42.15348266 Slavic
    51.44752958 Baltic
    103.89148810 SSA

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    First Look at Scottish DNA. Two samples are so close to my parents you could walk there easily from front door. If see more samples will update that. Going to check rest of Britain in comparison with viking data.




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    Very low sample rate but nice to see some Welsh data. North East Wales looks more like Iron Age mainland Scotland. I'd suspect Cumbria to also look similar. The sample comes from Clwyd, that shares the name of our Clyde.

    Might have already been posted, but good to see Wales come out top.



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    Scotland_IA is very northern by the way


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ajeje Brazorf View Post
    Scotland_IA is very northern by the way
    Did you use all the French IA2 samples from the Patterson's paper to make France IA average, only the French IA2 samples from Patterson's study or did you mix them up with the Brunel's IA samples?
    Last question; do you think it would make a difference?

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