German GEDmatch results

[Lucas]

Does Jewish admixture exist in ethnic Germans? I mean from at least the 1000s all the way to the 1930s they lived in many parts of modern Germany. I kinda doubt the Nazis found out everyone who was half or quarter Jewish, though the vast majority of unassimilated Jews did leave the Reich between 1933 and 1939.

Roather could check but I saw in some Rhineland German kits traces of too many East-Med. But I can't estimate it is caused by Jewish admix or some old post-Roman remains later Germanized.

[Leto]

Roather could check but I saw in some Rhineland German kits traces of too many East-Med. But I can't estimate it is caused by Jewish admix or some old post-Roman remains later Germanized.

Yes, I've seen 10% East Med in some Germans which looked rather un-Aryan to me if you know what I mean, haha

[Jana]

Yes, I've seen 10% East Med in some Germans which looked rather un-Aryan to me if you know what I mean, haha

It has nothing to do with Jewish admixture. All SW Germans are pretty uniform genetically. Enough of that Aryan nonsense.

[rothaer]

Roather could check but I saw in some Rhineland German kits traces of too many East-Med. But I can't estimate it is caused by Jewish admix or some old post-Roman remains later Germanized.

What exactly could I check? In the North Rhine average f. i. there are 8 samples with known pedigrees from ancestry researchers. And they score with an usual spread as one group. They are mostly from the left side of the Rhine river, i. e. from former Roman Empire. So whatever they score, they do represent that regional German population. Or do you have a point on a particular kit that is used? I'm open to whatever review.

[Kyp]

Rhineland-Palatinate:


# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 42.12
2 Baltic 23.57
3 West_Med 14.3
4 East_Med 9.45
5 West_Asian 7.75
6 Siberian 1.09
7 Northeast_African 0.72
8 Sub-Saharan 0.47
9 Amerindian 0.28
10 Oceanian 0.14
11 Red_Sea 0.11


Brandenburg:

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 43.3
2 Baltic 32.41
3 West_Med 12.88
4 West_Asian 6.09
5 East_Med 1.98
6 Amerindian 1.09
7 Oceanian 0.83
8 Northeast_African 0.73
9 South_Asian 0.69

[Jana]

Rhineland-Palatinate:


# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 42.12
2 Baltic 23.57
3 West_Med 14.3
4 East_Med 9.45
5 West_Asian 7.75
6 Siberian 1.09
7 Northeast_African 0.72
8 Sub-Saharan 0.47
9 Amerindian 0.28
10 Oceanian 0.14
11 Red_Sea 0.11


Brandenburg:

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 43.3
2 Baltic 32.41
3 West_Med 12.88
4 West_Asian 6.09
5 East_Med 1.98
6 Amerindian 1.09
7 Oceanian 0.83
8 Northeast_African 0.73
9 South_Asian 0.69

Are their grandparents from there too?

[rothaer]

Yes, I've seen 10% East Med in some Germans which looked rather un-Aryan to me if you know what I mean, haha

I don't know exactly what you mean with Aryan, that is a linguistic term for Indoiranian speakers. If you refer to an usage of the term in the Third Reich you should know that it was - without changing the meant content - replaced in 1935 by the term "deutschen oder artverwandten Blutes". So this term as well as before "arisch" essentially compriesed of all Europeans, except Jews and Gypsies, so a full Sicilian was "arisch" f. i. Do you refer to such Aryans?

If you just want to express that someone looked Jewish-like it would be preferable to say that to make things clear.

By dealing with genetics and look you will likely have experienced that the very individual look is not very much related to ancestry genetics (regarding the average of a bigger group this is different, of course). This is because the genetics for the look are just a very tiny proportion of the genetic that is different among people and groups. Before DNA testing the look (with metrics etc.) was basically the only connecting point to genetics that was available. This is why it was used. But in relation to a DNA test this is like a bicycle compared to a Mercedes S-class.

10% East Med alone will not cause a Jewish-like look in a particular individual. If you refer to that a lot of West Germans do have such contributions, that will be true. But there is no indication that this is connected to Jews in particular. Trier in Rhineland-Palatinate was once the residence of Roman Ceasars with all what that implies.

[Kyp]

Are their grandparents from there too?

Brandenburg result seems fully Brandenburg from her Gedcom data

Rhineland-Palatinate seems to be mostly Rhineland-Palatinate but also partly Hessen. Although all ancestry is roughly from Rhine-Main Metropolitan region.

[Jana]

Brandenburg result seems fully Brandenburg from her Gedcom data

Rhineland-Palatinate seems to be mostly Rhineland-Palatinate but also partly Hessen. Although all ancestry is roughly from Rhine-Main Metropolitan region.

Thank you very much! up:
very useful!!

[Leto]

From Lower Saxony/Niedersachsen (no detailed genealogy)

North_Atlantic 41.74 Pct
Baltic 33.11 Pct
West_Med 12.33 Pct
West_Asian 4.39 Pct
East_Med 2.87 Pct
Red_Sea 2.43 Pct
South_Asian 0.6 Pct
East_Asian 0.6 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian 1.4 Pct
Oceanian 0.44 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.09 Pct

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 East_German 5.95
2 North_Swedish 7.14
3 Swedish 7.27
4 Austrian 7.62
5 North_German 7.91
6 Norwegian 9.68
7 Danish 9.84
8 North_Dutch 9.92
9 Hungarian 10.83
10 West_German 11.29
11 South_Dutch 11.37
12 Orcadian 11.59
13 Southeast_English 12.08
14 Southwest_Finnish 12.3
15 Irish 12.44
16 South_Polish 13.23
17 West_Scottish 13.35
18 Southwest_English 13.59
19 Croatian 14.57
20 Polish 14.93

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 52.4% Southwest_English + 47.6% Polish @ 2.01
2 58.4% Southwest_English + 41.6% Estonian_Polish @ 2.06
3 57.7% Southwest_English + 42.3% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.06
4 56.5% Orcadian + 43.5% Polish @ 2.28
5 52.9% West_Scottish + 47.1% Polish @ 2.29
6 58.1% Southwest_English + 41.9% Belorussian @ 2.32
7 54.7% Irish + 45.3% Polish @ 2.39
8 55.5% Southeast_English + 44.5% Polish @ 2.5
9 60.7% Irish + 39.3% Estonian_Polish @ 2.55
10 61.8% Orcadian + 38.2% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.59
11 54.2% West_Scottish + 45.8% Ukrainian @ 2.61
12 60.7% Southeast_English + 39.3% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.62
13 58.9% West_Scottish + 41.1% Estonian_Polish @ 2.64
14 62.3% Southwest_English + 37.7% Lithuanian @ 2.64
15 53.2% West_Scottish + 46.8% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.65
16 62.5% Orcadian + 37.5% Estonian_Polish @ 2.66
17 56.1% Irish + 43.9% Ukrainian @ 2.67
18 58.2% West_Scottish + 41.8% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.71
19 60.6% North_Dutch + 39.4% Polish @ 2.72
20 55.1% Irish + 44.9% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.75

Like the son of an Englishman and a Polish Putzfrau