The Truth about Iberians:

[Sasaolo68]

Pretty amazing how you wrote so many incorrect things. The brazilian education system seems to be really awesome.

Lusitanians are a pre-roman people.

I don't think the portuguese inquisition was particularly tolerant, it seems to have executed more people than the spanish one:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portug...e_of_sentences
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanis..._and_sentenced

Finally north african runs west to east gradient indeed but what to Galicians or Extremadurans have to do with the portuguese inquisition?

Extremadurans, Andalucians, Portuguese and Galicians show the highest amounts of Moorish DNA in Iberia.

Unfortunally i can't find any map showing sources about Jewish dna on Iberia though.

[Sasaolo68]

You're exaggerating.
Type 4 is rare in Europe, I think a few type 3s could lean to 4 (di Maio-ish skin), type 5 doesn't exist at all.
Tanned type 3 =/= type 4 or 5.

Di Maio and Alessandro Nesta would be examples of type 4 skin, but i agree that he is exaggerating a bit with type 5.

[Ezio Auditore]

You're exaggerating.
Type 4 is very rare in Europe, I think a few type 3s could lean to 4 (di Maio-ish skin), type 5 doesn't exist at all.
Tanned type 3 =/= type 4 or 5.

I personally have it-- around type 4.5 and when i tan i get to around 5-5.5 and im native iberian. It is not too too rare, I've seen it among mostly farmers, and fishermen a lot in western parts of Andalucia (coastal for fishermen obviously) and alentejanas and algarvios. I don't know about the northern parts, and more easterwards... but genetically not too too different so the difference would have to be due to sun exposure I guess

Extremadurans, Andalucians, Portuguese and Galicians show the highest amounts of Moorish DNA in Iberia.

Unfortunately i can't find any map showing sources about Jewish dna on Iberia though.

Interesting map, what are the values supposed to denote exactly? I know north African but the numbers are far too low for iberia...

[Sasaolo68]

Interesting map, what are the values supposed to denote exactly? I know north African but the numbers are far too low for iberia...

This is map is about minor SSA DNA. The highest amounts are found in the areas that are known to be more NA influenced according to other sources, for example on Galiza, Andaluzia and Extremadura.

[Ajeje Brazorf]

A great portuguese user, but the op is not luso. The op is an old friend of mine

OP is 100% Luso. The coordinates he used to make PCA in another thread match Luso's. Also, on Anthrogenica if I remember correctly he had already put Ezio Auditore as his profile picture.

Who's Luso? Is he Mena or something?

He's Portuguese and has typical Portuguese results.

[LorenzoSpitaleri]

You're exaggerating.
Type 4 is rare in Europe, I think a few type 3s could lean to 4 (di Maio-ish skin), type 5 doesn't exist at all.
Tanned type 3 =/= type 4 or 5.

To make more sense.
Type 1: very pale, turns red with sun, no tan
1.5: pale, gets freckles, no tan
2: fair, turns red and hardly tans
2.5: fair, turns red and tans orangey, wears off after a bit
3: between fair and light brown, gets red, tans easily, wears off after a while
3.5: light brown/beige, tans with ease
4: medium brown, darkens easily
5: dark brown, darkens only a little bit
6: very dark brown or blue-ish black, these cannot get darker

Keep in mind these skin tones may have different undertones.

[LorenzoSpitaleri]

I personally have it-- around type 4.5 and when i tan i get to around 5-5.5 and im native iberian. It is not too too rare, I've seen it among mostly farmers, and fishermen a lot in western parts of Andalucia (coastal for fishermen obviously) and alentejanas and algarvios. I don't know about the northern parts, and more easterwards... but genetically not too too different so the difference would have to be due to sun exposure I guess



Interesting map, what are the values supposed to denote exactly? I know north African but the numbers are far too low for iberia...

To me you're type 3.5 or 4 flat, assuming you are Luso, tanning doesn't mean you are a darker tone.

[Ezio Auditore]

OP is 100% Luso. The coordinates he used to make PCA in another thread match Luso's. Also, on Anthrogenica if I remember correctly he had already put Ezio Auditore as his profile picture.







He's Portuguese and has typical Portuguese results.

It's not hard to have g25 coordinates you know Luso puts them in many anthrogenica threads to get mapped, but he straight up gave them to me. Nice try. Although, it does bring up a good point... he is very typical indeed... which is more to say that iberians can in fact look like that... aka Super exotic and dark and be native. Muh iberians are light and like other more northern europeans is funny... when a northern European, let alone most south/central italians would never come out looking like him.

[Ajeje Brazorf]

It's not hard to have g25 coordinates you know Luso puts them in many anthrogenica threads to get mapped, but he straight up gave them to me. Nice try. Although, it does bring up a good point... he is very typical indeed... which is more to say that iberians can in fact look like that... aka Super exotic and dark and be native. Muh iberians are light and like other more northern europeans is funny... when a northern European, let alone most south/central italians would never come out looking like him.

Yes, you are Luso and everyone has noticed, sorry.

You have dark skin, but what's the problem? What lifeless assholes write on TA? I've seen your pictures and you're not ugly at all, you have chad facial features and someone like you shouldn't even waste time on here. Come on bro, we need to slip what people say or think about us. This site is like a sidewalk chock full of dog shit, we can't trip over all of them, we are forced to avoid them.

[Ezio Auditore]

Yes, you are Luso and everyone has noticed, sorry.

You have dark skin, but what's the problem? What lifeless assholes write on TA? I've seen your pictures and you're not ugly at all, you have chad facial features and someone like you shouldn't even waste time on here. Come on bro, we need to slip what people say or think about us. This site is like a sidewalk chock full of dog shit, we can't trip over all of them, we are forced to avoid them.

He says it's not only because of lifeless assholes but because of his experiences growing up. He's just telling the truth about iberians not to feel more apart of them bc he is dark, but to show that there are anamolies like him and that fact makes it impossible for Iberia to be seen as anything more than a southern European mix of ancient North euro, with Anatolian, north African and SSA. He dislikes that everyone has such a European looks bias and he feels discluded bc he doesn't fit it... He wishes he never showed himself to begin with on TA. And it's still a surprise to a lot that the truth is some iberians can be very dark to some, even real life people in the country?? See, the point is to debunk phenotype bias, and I think he's proof enough to successfully do it.