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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosierboy View Post
    You're well aware that the majority of people in concentration camps were European right?
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    A little maths. Let's assume that there was 3 millions Jews in Poland (is it enough? Today some tens of thousands, less than in Helsinki pro data ) and 20 million Poles. The ratio is 1:6.66. If you now insist that Poles have 5% Ashkenazi ancestry, it means that we should expect a 30% blend between Poles and Jews, but only from Jews to Poles to keep the rest of Jews pureblood. Mission impossible. On the other hand, if we look the problem conversely we need only random poles to be mixed. But this is not my reasoning, I only know things better

    Jewish population fixed to 3 million.

    Of course any bigger admixture is possible if the Poles went through a population bottle neck living in a parallel community with Jews.
    Last edited by Lemminkäinen; 02-04-2022 at 03:42 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo View Post
    Yes he does
    He doesn't have any particular Levantine features. Not every brunet European with big nose looks Jewish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemminkäinen View Post
    No, I am right. We have Polish Jews and they often look Polish. The reson is obviously the fact that Judaism is inherited through mother. The ethnicity of father can be whatever. There is no mandatory reason to be pureblood.
    Polish Jews are usually people who have full Jewish ancestry, both parents that are Jews. I don't see point to discuss half Poles or mixed people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    Polish Jews are usually people who have full Jewish ancestry, both parents that are Jews. I don't see point to discuss half Poles or mixed people.
    There are only few Polish Jews today and this question is outdated. No reason to talk about them. I was taking about the Jewish admixture in Poles and simply statistics tells that 5%, as shown in OP, is not possible.

    Most of them moved to Israel or USA. Only 20000 left.

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    Slightly but not enough to significantly influence genotype or phenotype.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemminkäinen View Post
    There are only few Polish Jews today and this question is outdated. No reason to talk about them. I was taking about the Jewish admixture in Poles and simply statistics tells that 5%, as shown in OP, is not possible.

    Most of them moved to Israel or USA. Only 20000 left.
    OP is way off, AJ admix in ethnic Poles, if there is, is very small, way below his odd calculation (no idea how he got that).
    Such admix can't be determined by modeling anyhow, but by IBD sharing like 23andme does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemminkäinen View Post
    There are only few Polish Jews today and this question is outdated. No reason to talk about them. I was taking about the Jewish admixture in Poles and simply statistics tells that 5%, as shown in OP, is not possible.

    Most of them moved to Israel or USA. Only 20000 left.
    Jewish admixture is much lower than 5% in Poland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemminkäinen View Post
    No, it is likely conversely. Polish Ashkenazim look often North European.
    lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pine View Post
    lol
    This question us outdated, because Polish Ashkenazim are almost extinct. But as Stearsolina wrote, those with both parents of Ashkenazi ancestry tend to look Jewish


    Poland
    10,000–20,000[1][2]

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hist...Jews_in_Poland

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