Vahaduo calcs vol.2

[Lucas]

Please feel free to add all German/Austrian regional pops to your sheet. Meanwhile I will try to make broader (NW, SW, NE, SE) averages with rothaer for my sheet. We will update some averages as well.

Also you can think of avering Greece avs, there are too many small islands there. Full list could stay in Creoda Small Regions.

[Jana]

Also you can think of avering Greece avs, there are too many small islands there. Full list could stay in Creoda Small Regions.

sure!

[Jana]

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do you want some labeling changed? I saw before complains about Serb_Republic_Srpska and some Polish regions.

[vbnetkhio]

do you want some labeling changed? I saw before complains about Serb_Republic_Srpska and some Polish regions.

there many things that should be changed, but first, what will be the concept of the new sheets?

I think in your sheet, Serbs and Croats should have only one average, and more diverse ethnicites should have 4-5 averages at most, if you agree? Or do you think there should be a third sheet for that?

[Jana]

there many things that should be changed, but first, what will be the concept of the new sheets?

I think in your sheet, Serbs and Croats should have only one average, and more diverse ethnicites should have 4-5 averages at most, if you agree? Or do you think there should be a third sheet for that?

Could you say what would you want fixed?

Yes, I agree with you. I think that's good idea. I would just have two averages for Croats (plus general), because we basically have two clusters (Kajkavian and the rest).
For Serbs maybe you can make one for most of Serbs and other for SE and Montenegrin Serbs for eg plus general average. Just an idea.

Yes, for nations without notable regional diversity like Albanians for eg I really agree to one average. For larger nations 4-5 max, true.

[Dunai]

Could you say what would you want fixed?

Yes, I agree with you. I think that's good idea. I would just have two averages for Croats (plus general), because we basically have two clusters (Kajkavian and the rest).
For Serbs maybe you can make one for most of Serbs and other for SE and Montenegrin Serbs for eg plus general average. Just an idea.

Yes, for nations without notable regional diversity like Albanians for eg I really agree to one average. For larger nations 4-5 max, true.

If you want to only have one or max two averages in K13 Updated then you can put all Hungarian regional averages to the expanded sheet and only leave the Transylvanian average, since it is pretty unique. Maybe leave North Hungarian too, since it has a distance of 3 to the Hungarian average, but I don't know if that is enough to make it that unique?

Also if you decide to make broader averages for Greece, Italy and other countries, try to weigh them based on how much people those averages represent. Some of them represent ca. 300.000 people, while others ca. 2 million.

[vbnetkhio]

Could you say what would you want fixed?

Yes, I agree with you. I think that's good idea. I would just have two averages for Croats (plus general), because we basically have two clusters (Kajkavian and the rest).
For Serbs maybe you can make one for most of Serbs and other for SE and Montenegrin Serbs for eg plus general average. Just an idea.

Yes, for nations without notable regional diversity like Albanians for eg I really agree to one average. For larger nations 4-5 max, true.

in your sheet, remove the regional Serbian and Montenegrin averages, and update these:

Serb,24.83,29.18,17.10,8.89,15.96,1.66,0.53,0.30,0.61,0.49,0.33,0.06,0.08
Montenegrin,23.78,26.42,18.93,9.56,17.29,1.64,0.53,0.31,0.61,0.56,0.28,0.04,0.06
Aromanian,21.38,19.84,19.71,11.24,23.23,2.94,0.15,0.36,0.51,0.30,0.27,0.06,0.00

also, some of the Greek averages are false (like the one for Western Thrace which is actually Pelpoponnesian), they should be replaced by these academic samples and proper averages before you group them into larger regions.

Greek_Athens,18,12.97,21.34,14.07,27.58,3.93,0.36,0.53,0.32,0.18,0.27,0.16,0.28
Greek_Cappadocia,6.02,3.11,16.96,28.66,37.29,5.82,1.07,0.15,0.63,0.08,0.21,0,0
Greek_Central,17.81,13.51,20.59,14.66,27.3,4.05,0.6,0.29,0.33,0.42,0.4,0.03,0.01
Greek_CentralMacedonia,18.75,18.2,20.84,12.78,24.45,2.69,0.61,0.32,0.41,0.43,0.26,0.15,0.12
Greek_Crete,13.27,8.94,19.48,18.05,32.46,5.55,0.55,0.35,0.27,0.16,0.33,0.39,0.19
Greek_Dodecanese,10.53,5.27,20.42,19.62,35.88,6.29,0.64,0.61,0.11,0.08,0.24,0.27,0.04
Greek_Kos,12.12,5.57,19.99,20.06,34.33,6.16,0.33,0.51,0.12,0.26,0.33,0.15,0.07
Greek_Peloponnese,18.52,15.57,20.38,12.29,27.35,4.01,0.16,0.28,0.42,0.24,0.50,0.10,0.18
Greek_Southeast_Laconia,15.8,12.55,21.4,13.1,28.83,5.25,0.15,0.43,0.11,0.38,0.04,1.17,0.78
Greek_Smyrna&Phokaia,16.63,11.89,20.53,15.6,29.3,4.24,0.1,0.62,0.28,0.19,0.37,0.2,0.06
Greek_Thessaly,20.57,16.87,20.64,11.95,24.54,3.49,0.45,0.4,0.37,0.53,0.31,0.04,0.11

Greek_Thrace,16.15,15.82,19.26,15.31,28.11,3.28,0.36,0.25,0.36,0.09,0.55,0.29,0.19
Greek_West,18.22,18.63,20.5,13.48,24.98,2.64,0,0.63,0.34,0.13,0.37,0.05,0.05
Greek_Pontus,2.31,1.6,15.84,37.71,36.38,3.88,1.29,0.32,0.22,0.04,0.36,0.01,0.03
Greek_Cyclades,17.87,9.96,20.68,15.25,28.66,4.63,0.1,0.57,0.5,0.54,0.53,0.16,0.08
Greek_Lefkada,20.6,11.93,21.04,9.4,31.18,3.6,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
Greek_Achaea,18.03,17.36,20.32,13.86,25.45,3.07,0.00,0.15,0.28,0.34,0.75,0.33,0.05
Greek_Andros,17.49,7.08,20.60,13.75,33.45,5.18,0.00,0.64,0.48,0.42,0.44,0.26,0.22
Greek_Arcadia,18.67,15.99,22.74,11.72,25.92,3.52,0.00,0.20,0.29,0.25,0.11,0.60,0.00
Greek_Chios,12.44,7.95,20.50,18.87,33.30,5.32,0.34,0.28,0.24,0.11,0.30,0.33,0.04
Greek_Cyprus,7.55,2.17,20.48,19.47,41.02,7.60,0.14,0.46,0.15,0.02,0.27,0.67,0.00
Greek_Deep_Mani,15.21,8.70,20.91,14.82,32.69,5.67,0.26,0.50,0.10,0.24,0.52,0.39,0.00
Greek_Epirus,20.37,17.42,19.60,13.54,25.79,1.85,0.00,0.00,0.93,0.00,0.44,0.00,0.06
Greek_Euboea_South,20.06,14.63,22.07,12.29,25.65,4.18,0.05,0.35,0.13,0.21,0.28,0.06,0.01
Greek_Florina,21.38,20.79,20.04,11.18,23.01,2.09,0.23,0.29,0.51,0.17,0.27,0.03,0.02
Greek_Ikaria,12.91,7.77,21.44,16.75,33.87,5.34,1.01,0.23,0.17,0.01,0.45,0.04,0.00
Greek_Kalymnos,11.96,6.79,20.84,18.43,35.00,5.30,0.61,0.28,0.02,0.06,0.27,0.40,0.04
Greek_Karpathos,10.68,5.74,20.58,19.19,34.18,7.47,0.86,0.64,0.14,0.09,0.00,0.30,0.13
Greek_Kastellorizo,9.57,3.93,19.32,20.10,40.03,5.21,0.04,0.53,0.11,0.04,0.49,0.52,0.11
Greek_Kefalonia,17.53,11.97,21.39,14.65,28.21,4.91,0.28,0.16,0.23,0.25,0.32,0.12,0.00
Greek_Konya,6.50,4.87,19.02,26.51,35.81,5.20,0.94,0.07,0.55,0.03,0.51,0.00,0.00
Greek_Kos,12.13,5.57,19.98,20.06,34.34,6.16,0.31,0.54,0.10,0.18,0.40,0.14,0.08
Greek_Kythera,14.77,9.49,19.93,15.93,32.13,5.74,0.74,0.07,0.30,0.46,0.14,0.30,0.00
Greek_Laconia,18.84,15.11,20.50,12.63,26.97,4.43,0.31,0.44,0.26,0.14,0.28,0.01,0.07
Greek_Laconia_Karitsa,20.99,14.91,20.66,13.09,24.68,4.27,0.07,0.21,0.29,0.40,0.10,0.31,0.01
Greek_Lesbos,14.61,9.99,18.42,18.44,31.50,4.87,0.06,0.72,0.64,0.15,0.49,0.11,0.02
Greek_Messenia,18.78,15.09,21.04,13.10,27.21,2.99,0.43,0.41,0.29,0.28,0.32,0.06,0.00
Greek_Nisyros,14.49,5.02,19.94,18.20,34.34,5.49,0.33,0.12,0.15,0.43,0.57,0.43,0.50
Greek_Rhodes,10.04,3.54,21.36,19.05,38.25,6.00,0.22,0.19,0.34,0.15,0.59,0.27,0.00
Greek_Samos,17.74,10.86,20.44,17.69,27.34,4.03,0.11,0.42,0.17,0.00,0.64,0.01,0.56
Greek_Symi,10.31,3.21,20.58,19.40,38.22,5.84,0.72,0.03,0.46,0.17,0.46,0.50,0.10
Greek_Tsakonia,16.73,11.60,21.69,13.28,31.37,3.87,0.14,0.33,0.00,0.34,0.63,0.03,0.00

[Ion Basescul]

Yes, for nations without notable regional diversity like Albanians for eg I really agree to one average. For larger nations 4-5 max, true.

Do I understand correctly that my current averages were pasted to "smaller regions" sheet and that's where they are expected to be updated moving forward?
And the usual old sheet is now meant for bigger regions? Perhaps that can be mentioned in the name of the sheet to make it clear.

If my usual averages are by region, then these will be geographic to avoid any confusion between similar names.

Here are averages for the bigger regions sheet. This is not enough to cover the diversity found in each region, but if you want to limit, then that's one way to do it and still have averages that capture the genetic profiles found in Romanians.

Romanian_North,25.18,30.90,15.24,8.99,14.12,1.63,0.84,0.55,1.29,0.54,0.44,0.16,0.11
Romanian_Centre,24.25,26.42,17.14,10.01,16.88,1.85,0.60,0.58,1.10,0.58,0.38,0.10,0.10
Romanian_South,22.69,24.72,17.67,10.97,18.57,2.05,0.63,0.64,1.03,0.49,0.34,0.11,0.10

For Republic of Moldova - North, Centre and South is enough as they are all distinct enough. You can remove the national average since it's close to Centre.

[Ion Basescul]

I have no idea how to make Bulgaria into 3 parts so that it keeps the diversity of the Coast, Thrace, Sofia region, Northwest, Central Balkan mountains, etc. Ideas would be appreciated.

[Lucas]

I have no idea how to make Bulgaria into 3 parts so that it keeps the diversity of the Coast, Thrace, Sofia region, Northwest, Central Balkan mountains, etc. Ideas would be appreciated.

Also both have links to other one at the top.