Slovene DNA Results

**MCMXCV** · 03-20-2022, 06:22 PM

Hello, I’ve made this account a while back only to read some interesting threads but never actually commented or posted anything. The following may be more suitable for the 23andMe sub-forum to which I don’t have access, but I don’t mind posting this here if it’s alright. So, to get to the point:

Recently, some of my relatives (a parent and two grandparents) took the DNA test by 23andMe (mine is still in the process), and I’m surprised by the ethnicity estimates. The reason for this is a pretty well-researched family tree, based on which all of my known ancestors (8 generations back) were born in what is today Slovenia. 23andMe places Slovenia into the Eastern European region; therefore, I, naturally, expected that to be the prevailing region. In reality, it varies from 65% to 79%. It’s not a small amount, but if I take my family tree into account, it’s lower than expected. The other regions that appear in the estimates are French & German (10–27%) and Greek & Balkan (2–8%). I do have some unknown ancestors in my family tree, but even if I consider them being something different from Eastern European, it still doesn’t align.
I’ve looked at some posted results of other Slovenes online, and they actually weren’t so much different regarding the estimates. Is it maybe just that 23andMe has a certain reference population for Slovenia, which results in this kind of estimates? Does the geographical location of Slovenia being a small country at the crossroads of certain regions make creating estimates more difficult? Probably the main reason for me to begin being somewhat uncertain about the results (and to a lesser extent my family tree) was my friend getting the results. They showed 0% for both French & German and Greek & Balkan, which I — until then — though was common for all Slovenes to get in their report.

If anyone would be willing to help me get more sense of the results, I’d be extremely grateful!

**Alenka** · 03-20-2022, 06:30 PM

I'd suggest uploading your raw data to GEDmatch. It's free.
Results there are more easy to interpret and compare.

Russki · 03-20-2022, 06:33 PM

Hello

23andme uses Eastern European as a reference to genetic results ranging from Slovak/Ukrainian-like, to Estonian and North Russian-like

Anything more Southern or Western that gets you additional results

French & German in the case of Slovenia reflects your common history with Austria

Greek & Balkan reflects your common history with Balkans

**MCMXCV** · 03-20-2022, 07:50 PM

Originally Posted by Russki

Hello

23andme uses Eastern European as a reference to genetic results ranging from Slovak/Ukrainian-like, to Estonian and North Russian-like

Anything more Southern or Western that gets you additional results

French & German in the case of Slovenia reflects your common history with Austria

Greek & Balkan reflects your common history with Balkans

This is exactly why I’m so surprised by my friend’s results. Only one parent is Slovene, but there is no French & German and Greek & Balkan regions in the estimate of the said friend.

**MCMXCV** · 03-20-2022, 07:54 PM

Originally Posted by Alenka

I'd suggest uploading your raw data to GEDmatch. It's free.
Results there are more easy to interpret and compare.

I’ve been thinking about it, and it may be worth a shot. I’m unexperienced with the site, but I hope there is a useful calculator to help me get more insight.

Russki · 03-20-2022, 07:57 PM

Originally Posted by MCMXCV

This is exactly why I’m so surprised by my friend’s results. Only one parent is Slovene, but there is no French & German and Greek & Balkan regions in the estimate of the said friend.

If your friend doesn't have ancestry from countries like Slovakia or Poland, he might be an outlier for Slovenes

**Scandal** · 03-20-2022, 08:22 PM

Originally Posted by Russki

If your friend doesn't have ancestry from countries like Slovakia or Poland, he might be an outlier for Slovenes

23andme is sometimes BS. Let's see his gedmatch. I've seen a hungarian individual who scored little or no "french&german" at all on 23andme but then on gedmatch he turned out to have high north atlantic (higher than hungarian avarage). Benyzero on the other hand scored like 40% french-german on 23andme but his north atlantic score is avarage hungarian on k13 and overall his gedmatch is not as western shifted as his 23andme indicates.. In my experience 23andme result doesn't necessarily correlate with gedmatch result.

**MCMXCV** · 03-20-2022, 09:01 PM

I’ve uploaded to GEDmatch. Which tools should I use? I’m new to the site, so please bear with me.

**Luke35** · 03-20-2022, 09:31 PM

Originally Posted by MCMXCV

I’ve uploaded to GEDmatch. Which tools should I use? I’m new to the site, so please bear with me.

If you can copy & paste your full list of component values for the Eurogenes K13 and K15 calculators (i.e. North_Atlantic 31.05%, Baltic, 32.77%,..), then myself and others can help you analyze your ancestry further.

**MCMXCV** · 03-20-2022, 09:37 PM

Originally Posted by Mr.G

If you can copy & paste your full list of component values for the Eurogenes K13 and K15 calculators (i.e. North_Atlantic 31.05%, Baltic, 32.77%,..), then myself and others can help you analyze your ancestry further.

I’ll do this right now. But just to make sure before I do it, I leave the default option Admixture Proportions (With link to Oracle) selected and K15 is the same as Eurogenes EUTest V2 K15?