K36 calculator

**rothaer** · 04-09-2022, 11:33 AM

Originally Posted by Russki

I think rothaer's Slovak problem is solved now.

Looks better, yes. I remember always getting high Slovak similarity at Tolan's Taux de similitudes and the Slovak reference may have been from there, but such a Slovak proximity did never show up otherwise or in the LM Genetics correlation maps (all based on K36).

**rothaer** · 04-09-2022, 12:22 PM

Originally Posted by Creoda

rothaer and I agreed that it would be better to start essentially from scratch with the averages, but I suppose I can add most of the ones posted by Russki for areas that aren't well covered for now and see how they work, until they can be updated. I already had that list btw.

Maybe add an asterisk for old and by time to be re-done and improved averages, f. i. "Bosnian*".

**Dušan** · 04-09-2022, 05:58 PM

I see that more averages are added.

**alexmegas777** · 04-10-2022, 08:24 AM

Distance to: alexmegas(Romanian)
16.22347065 Italian_Friuli
16.34382452 Serb_Dalmatia
17.18843507 Romanian_Southeast
17.38537604 Italian_Veneto
17.40474073 Serb-2
17.60914535 Romanian_Northeast
17.98622251 French_South
18.00457164 Serb
18.04543155 Romanian
18.04748736 Romanian_Northwest
18.09704672 Bulgarian
18.23352407 Montenegrin
18.58906130 Austrian_Burgenland
18.65121980 Portuguese_Azores
18.70467054 Bulgarian-2
18.71634045 French-2
18.90978583 Swiss_German_North
18.96017669 Italian_North
18.99626279 Austrian_Styria
19.27522244 Spanish_Galicia
19.30861466 Albanian_Montenegro
19.42647935 French_Central
19.44762453 French
19.50105125 French_Northeast
19.57177304 Spanish-2

Target: alexmegas(Romanian)
Distance: 1060.8643% / 10.60864278
35.6 Spanish_Cantabria
22.0 Greek_Istanbul
15.4 Lithuanian
10.4 Turkish
9.4 Albanian
5.2 Basque
2.0 Finnish_Northeast

**J. Ketch** · 04-10-2022, 01:01 PM

Originally Posted by vbnetkhio

here are some academic samples. all these are also in g25, so you can compare them.

Code:

Albanian:ALB191,0,0,7.99,0,0,8.19,0,0,9.82,0,9.67,13.38,6.65,5.14,0,2.48,0,12.35,0,8.78,1.52,2.28,4.68,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,7.07
Albanian:ALB202,0,0,6.13,2.01,0,0,0,0,9.58,0,4.37,3.01,1.45,2.18,0,13.72,0,24.08,0,5.75,0,7.96,13.33,0.59,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,2.28,3.56
Albanian:ALB212,0,3.02,4.43,2.18,0,4.91,0,0,8.63,0,7.28,12.89,2.79,0,5.32,1.26,0,20.51,0,1.61,0,2.97,6.04,0.31,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,3.38,12.46
Albanian:ALB213,0,1.22,5.91,4.07,0,7.25,0,0,9.36,0,4.93,9.34,3.68,5.09,4.51,1.74,0,11.99,0,7.9,1.54,1.13,4.51,3.37,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0.49,0,3.65,8.32
Albanian:ALB220,0,0,0.47,0,0,3.4,0,0,12.57,0,4.49,16.98,1.29,1.71,6.48,8.25,0,16.58,0,2.41,0.21,3.82,7.08,0.16,0,0,0.55,0.14,0,0,0,0,0,0,4.71,8.69
Albanian:ALB230,0,1.46,5.65,0.42,0,6.09,0,0,8.01,0,4.66,9.87,0.41,4.89,4.07,16.24,0,17.17,0,8.94,0,3.8,4.04,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0.25,0,0,4
Bosniak:Bosnian_10,0,0,1.71,3.29,0,8.85,0,0,7.21,0,15.4,5.41,12.8,5.67,4.73,8.98,0,14.36,0,0,0,1.38,5.69,3.05,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1.46
Bosniak:Bosnian_11,0,1.51,0,0.73,0,8.6,0,0,7.22,0,17.42,1.77,4.17,6.54,5.64,8.86,0,16.92,0,3.27,0,4.25,6.41,5.25,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0.9,0,0.54,0
Bosniak:Bosnian_12,0,3.52,0.14,1.14,0,6.52,0,0,4.34,0,18.76,6.92,12.99,7.7,0.9,5.79,0,13.14,0,0,0.05,2.72,4.18,8.23,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0.55,2.43
Bosniak:Bosnian_13,0,0,2.68,1.7,0,7.69,0,0,10.3,0,17.23,5.02,8.19,4.08,2.92,3.96,0,12.07,0,3.45,0,4.32,3.91,7.85,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0.17,0,2.04,2.42
Bosniak:Bosnian_14,0,0,5.31,1.06,0,5.33,0,0,8.58,0,14.99,6.12,12.89,7.38,2.51,8.72,0,11.17,0,0,0,5.58,2.38,5.74,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0.26,0,0,2
Cossack_Kuban:GS000035179,0,0,0,1.24,0,7.43,0,0,4.91,0,17.48,0,22.81,15.83,0.93,7.52,0,0.33,0,0.74,0,5.21,0,6.57,0,0.7,0,0,1.15,0,0,0.09,4.83,0,1.86,0.38
Cossack_Ukrainian:GS000035238,0,0,0,0,0,9.3,0,0,10.39,0,23.7,0,15.94,11.78,2.27,13.07,0,0,0,0,0,4.3,0.09,3.81,0,0,0,0,0,0.52,0,0,4.82,0,0,0
Croatian:Croatia_Cro133,0,0,0.1,0,0,7.4,0,0,7.31,0,17.63,3.05,10.42,9,1.24,13.21,0,10.98,0,0,0,6.15,4.52,6.7,0,0,0,0,0,0,0.39,0,0.44,0,1.45,0
Croatian:Croatia_Cro140,0,0,2.13,3.34,0,5.87,0,0,5.42,0,14.6,2.32,6.48,5.53,0,7.42,0,16.29,0,0,1.6,9.37,4.24,9.57,0,0.32,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1.07,4.42
Croatian:Croatia_Cro142,0,0,2.33,3.26,0,7.14,0,0,11.67,0,16.28,4.2,11.03,3.27,5.65,8.32,0,8.03,0,0,0,5.82,2.79,6.84,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0.83,0,0,2.52
Croatian:Croatia_Cro305,0,0,0,2.34,0,11.76,0,0,10.45,0,10.66,5.02,8.02,5.69,4.16,8.9,0,10.73,0,0.07,0,5.76,5.52,6.4,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1.41,3.1
Croatian:Croatia_Cro43,0,0,0,0.92,0,4.35,0,0,7.87,0,17.73,1.82,9.13,10.34,3.66,9.89,0,13.62,0,0,0,8.27,0.72,9.41,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0.73,0,0,1.52
Croatian:Croatia_Cro53,0.27,0,1.82,0,0,6.7,0,0,10.06,0,14.4,5.94,9.65,7.09,4.34,8.18,0,14.76,0,0.94,0,3.74,3.65,7.73,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0.55,0.17
Czech:NA15724,0,0,0,0,0,10.39,0,0,6.77,0,12.4,0,10.19,12.34,4.94,15.24,0,0.81,0,0,0,9.09,3.33,12.84,0,0,0,0,0,0,1.67,0,0,0,0,0
Czech:NA15725,0.24,0,0,1.05,0,7.58,0,0,3.88,0,17.17,0,9.35,11.52,4.3,7.7,0,4.23,0,3.49,0,8.54,2.66,16.12,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,2.16
Czech:NA15726,0,0,0,2.33,0,8.69,0,0,9.9,0,10.95,0.17,7.66,10.43,6.98,8.56,0,7.4,0,1.94,0,6.47,1.73,12.95,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,2.76,0,0.7,0.37
Czech:NA15727,0,0,0,3.04,0,6.75,0,0,5.49,0,18.92,0,17.91,8.2,4.21,4.41,0,3.97,0,1.38,0,9.94,1.98,12.57,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0.15,1.04
Czech:NA15728,0,0,5.13,5.02,0,8.27,0,0,6.52,0,17.08,0,12.3,7.95,6.16,5.53,0,0,0,3.05,0,13.65,0.22,8.33,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0.24,0,0.48,0
Czech:NA15729,0,0,0,4.03,0,9.15,0,0,3.64,0,13.45,5.78,12.04,11.79,2.65,12.63,0,6.54,0,0,0,7.14,0,10.46,0,0,0.66,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
Czech:NA15730,0.15,0,0,2.44,0,10.68,0,0,7.29,0,14.13,0,4.36,12.45,6.33,5.65,0,10.16,0,0,2.48,7.07,3.69,10.76,0.24,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0.19,0,0,1.91
Czech:NA15731,0,0,0,5.34,0,6.95,0,0,5.6,0,12.78,0,11.65,10.82,6.64,4.53,0,10.48,0,0,0,7.27,3.51,12.78,0,0.33,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1.33,0
Czech:NA15732,0.54,0,0.83,2.05,0,6.98,0,0,8.69,0,21.64,0.26,4.22,13.85,8.43,2.34,0,2.28,0,0,0,6.62,3.37,16.37,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1.5,0,0,0
Czech:NA15733,0,0,0,0,0,13.79,0,0,8.31,0,20.53,0,8.83,11.49,2.59,2.35,0,2.36,0,0,0,7.44,0,11.61,0,0,0,0,0,2.01,0,0,1.82,0,0.56,6.3
Greek_”NE”:GreeceNE11,0,0,7.04,0,0,6.19,0,0,8.97,0,10.36,11.08,3.56,1.29,5.01,8.88,0,16.93,0,4.15,0,0.38,7.06,2.98,0,0,0,0,0,0,0.09,0,0,0,0.26,5.77
Greek_”NE”:GreeceNE34,0,3,2.57,1.83,0,7.08,0,0,6.84,0,11.03,8.59,3.62,2.3,2.24,4.01,0,19.27,0,7.63,1.25,4.84,2.66,6.73,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,4.5
Greek_”NE”:GreeceNE59,0,2.67,2.4,2.64,0,4.66,0,0,8.01,0,8.38,14.88,5.24,2.73,3.49,8.14,0,15.24,0,7.67,0,2.02,1.81,5.76,0,0,0,0,0,0.91,0.16,0,0.24,0,1.14,1.81
Greek_”NE”:GreeceNE8,0,0.06,0.63,0,0,11.57,0,0,5.64,0,9.63,10.43,3.34,5.69,3.47,4.45,0,15.61,0,9.67,0,4.15,6.83,0.09,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,2.61,6.07
Greek_”NE”:GreeceNE209,0.21,2.81,8.33,0,0,6.63,0,0,10.8,0,7,6.82,1.68,0,0,5.95,0,26.09,0,9.19,0,0,4.72,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0.28,0,1.1,8.34
Greek_”NE”:GreeceNE231,0,1.07,3.05,3.06,0,6.36,0,0,11.7,0,0.97,15.36,0,0,5.99,6.65,0,18.46,0,9.96,0,1.57,4.85,1.67,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,4.2,5.07
Greek_”NE”:GreeceNE252,0,0.72,5.38,2.18,0,4.37,0,0,7.4,0,3.72,15.58,4.04,0,2.57,2.53,0,18.85,0,10.19,0,7.12,7.38,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,2.53,5.44
Greek_”NE”:GreeceNE126,0.4,0.46,5.55,3.7,0,5.32,0,0,6.97,0,4.7,6.32,1.3,0,0,9.47,0,22.31,0,8.41,0,1.68,6.38,5.49,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0.07,0,5.7,5.76
Greek_”NE”:GreeceNE144,0,2.87,5.38,1.95,0,5.23,0,0,6.26,0,1.01,9.97,4.03,1.62,0,8.74,0,20.07,0,3.36,0,7.48,4.49,5.29,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,5.46,6.74
Greek_”NE”:GreeceNE162,0,1.94,4.86,0,0,5.7,0,0,6.73,0,3.16,14.3,0.53,1.22,1.13,9.99,0,20.33,0,3.38,0,9.46,3.94,4.92,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,2.3,6.12
Greek_Central_Macedonia:GREEKGRALPOP10,0,3.22,3.07,1.34,0,2.13,0,0,7.05,0,9.87,14.59,2.83,0,0,8.16,0,21.76,0.12,2.86,0.68,0,7.82,3.21,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1.79,0,5.1,4.39
Greek_Central_Macedonia:GREEKGRALPOP11,0,0.18,5.01,0,0.87,2.72,0,0,5.77,0,7,9.62,3.27,4.28,1.06,10.42,0,24.92,0,7.55,0.34,4.34,0.13,2.61,0,0,0,0,0,0,1.34,0,0,0,4.76,3.82
Greek_Central_Macedonia:GREEKGRALPOP12,0.37,0,3.73,0,0,5.23,0,0,13.45,0,2.81,16.5,10.91,0,1.13,4.88,0,14.11,0,6.93,0,4.44,4.04,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0.5,0,5.49,5.49
Greek_Central_Macedonia:GREEKGRALPOP14,0.07,0.52,0,0,0,2.94,0,0,11.74,0,1.83,14.39,1.9,0.43,8.67,11.71,0,20.87,0,13.9,0,0.69,0.34,3.66,0,0,0,0,0,0.19,0,0,0.56,0,0.76,4.82
Greek_Central_Macedonia:GREEKGRALPOP15,0,0,2.55,1.8,0,3.25,0,0,8.96,0,5.02,12.99,3.96,0,5.87,9.25,0,18.72,0,6.58,0,3.57,6.65,4.53,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0.11,1.23,0,2.56,2.4
Greek_Central_Macedonia:GREEKGRALPOP16,0,1.61,8.7,0.11,0,2.48,0,0,10.18,0,1.06,10.91,5.31,4.49,1.88,6.82,0,21.28,0,6.87,0.58,0,7.88,0.75,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0.07,9
Greek_Central_Macedonia:GREEKGRALPOP17,0,4.01,5.35,1.97,0,6.09,0,0,7.38,0,11.04,11.79,6.14,2.7,0.42,9.96,0,18.83,0,3.16,0,0.99,1.16,3.02,0.16,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,2.6,3.25
Greek_Central_Macedonia:GREEKGRALPOP18,0,3.49,5.2,0,0,3.11,0,0,11.06,0,5.47,14.23,4.73,1.25,0,12.82,0,24.14,0,1.59,2.48,2.78,1.5,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,6.13
Greek_Central_Macedonia:GREEKGRALPOP3,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,11.41,0,10.6,10.9,0.96,5.52,1.06,8.4,0,12.7,0,15.57,2.43,0,0,9.08,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,3.53,6.8
Greek_Central_Macedonia:GREEKGRALPOP4,0,0,5.62,5.32,0,0.98,0,0,6.91,0,4.9,13.66,5.54,0.91,3.47,5.7,0,21.36,0,8.44,0.35,1.36,6.33,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,2.53,6.62
Greek_Central_Macedonia:GREEKGRALPOP5,0.44,4.05,6.8,2.28,0,7.91,0,0,10.86,0,7.29,10.69,3.19,0.87,1.31,8.06,0,16.21,0,3.02,0,2.37,1.43,1.48,0,0,0,0,0,0.18,0,0,0,0,5.07,6.5
Greek_Central_Macedonia:GREEKGRALPOP8,0,0,0,6.74,0,0,0,0,16.13,0,6.29,11.28,8.24,0.12,0,0.42,0,13.62,0,4.88,0,6.73,8.82,4.44,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,4.41,7.89
Greek_Central_Macedonia:GREEKGRALPOP9,0,0,5.34,1.12,0,4.3,0,0,10.73,0,5.9,14.13,4.34,0,4.06,8.15,0,15.1,0,6,0,4.62,0,3.73,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,6.01,6.49
Hungarian:HungarianC5,0,0,0,2.95,0,5.6,0,0,4.58,0,17.48,0,17.8,8.32,3.02,11.39,0,12.29,0,0,0,5.65,1.54,6.88,0,0,0,0,0,2.16,0,0,0,0,0.3,0
Hungarian:HungarianD1,0,0,0.74,0,0,6.09,0,0,4.26,0,13.25,10.69,7.75,6.78,0,7.66,0,13.09,0,0,0.68,7.78,7.03,10.65,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,2.22,0,0,1.32
Hungarian:HungarianE5,1.56,0,0,0,0,5.8,0,0,4.54,0,8.01,0,9.54,12.05,2.55,5.47,0,20.26,0,0.77,0,7.74,0,14.72,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,2.36,0,2.15,2.49
Hungarian:HungarianH3,0,0,0,0,0.72,2.3,0,0,2.85,0,14.56,4.5,15.54,9.06,2.06,9.15,0,9.59,0,0,0,12.24,0,12.99,0,0,0,0,0,0,0.91,0,0.4,0,0,3.12
Hungarian:NA15199,0,0,1.36,0,0,6.66,0,0,5.84,0,19.56,4.33,6.27,6.96,3.9,9.79,0,7.09,0,0,0,8.6,0,10.78,0,0,0.27,1.01,0,0,0,0,4.61,0,0,2.99
Hungarian:NA15200,0,3.15,3.57,0,0,6.31,0,0,5.78,0,16.99,0,13.74,12.57,2.38,13.94,0,3.11,0,0,0,7.42,0,6.86,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0.47,3.71
Hungarian:NA15201,0.17,0,0.05,0.4,0,11.19,0,0,6.89,0,18.58,0,6.24,7.35,4.17,9.04,0,12.4,0,1.42,0,5.62,0.2,8.11,0,1.13,0,0,0,0,2.71,0,0,0,2.96,1.35
Hungarian:NA15202,0,0,1.52,3.86,0,10.1,0.22,0,1.69,0,12.66,0,13.51,9.26,4.48,2.2,0,7.17,0,0,0,9.71,2.45,19.15,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0.06,0,1.97
Hungarian:NA15203,0.3,0,0,0,0,3.36,0,0,8.15,0,13.26,1.42,14.14,7.07,2.88,13.21,0,7.24,0,0,0,11.54,6.38,5.22,0,0,0.19,0,0,0,0,0,1.47,0,0.84,3.33
Hungarian:NA15204,0,0,0,3.98,0.21,5.34,0,0,6.98,0,13.48,11.21,18.85,2.74,6.82,4.78,0.6,7.85,0,0,0,9.75,0,5.72,0.89,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0.78,0,0,0
Hungarian:NA15205,0,0.35,0,3.61,0,8.81,0,0,6.46,0,23.74,2.47,5.36,9.35,2.52,0.87,0,12.13,0,0,0,9.33,0,8,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,2.1,0,0.89,4.01
Hungarian:NA15206,0,0,0,3.04,0,7.57,0,0,4.41,0,9.61,4.79,6.21,7.83,1.93,9.35,0,7.75,0,1.66,0,11.75,5.88,14.39,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,3.81,0,0,0
Hungarian:NA15207,0.9,0,0.51,0,0,6.13,0,0,7.08,0,16.53,0.06,10.28,5.13,5.29,9.03,0,12.24,0,3.08,0,7.45,6.12,5.26,0,0,0,0,0,0.64,0,0,1.62,0,1.7,0.93
Hungarian:NA15208,0,2.65,0,1.09,0,10.64,0,0,9.24,0,9.99,2.05,13.44,9.2,7.04,6.2,0,12.74,0,0,0,6.25,0,5.29,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1.2,0,0,3
Montenegrin:Montenegro1,0,0,1.89,0.85,0,5.58,0,0,10.35,0,9.09,6.87,8.14,2.99,4.84,6.94,0,17.96,0,5.41,0.18,7.08,2.07,4.85,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0.11,0,3.11,1.68
Montenegrin:Montenegro4,0,0,1.51,2.55,0,5.42,0,0,7.24,0,13.42,2.24,9,5.27,2.48,7.63,0,18.21,0,2.44,0,2.87,6.24,11.21,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0.63,0,0,1.63
Montenegrin:Montenegro5,0,1.58,2.41,0.88,0,8.63,0,0,10.04,0,8.72,4.65,7.25,6.51,3.84,8.96,0,11.99,0.13,0.08,0,6.19,3.16,9.48,0,0,0,0,0,0,1.21,0,0,0,1.58,2.68
Montenegrin:Montenegro6,0,0,2.4,0.81,0,7.55,0,0,9.18,0,10.24,11.1,8.29,4.78,1.91,13.58,0,12.23,0,0.08,0,6.43,0,2.66,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0.48,0,3.05,5.21
Montenegrin:Montenegro7,0,0,1.44,0,0,5.16,0,0,7.49,0,9.96,7.1,9.86,6.5,5.07,5.27,0,19.51,0,4.14,0,2.73,6.02,6.03,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,2.23,0,0,1.5
Romanian:A306,0.3,0,0,0,0,5.68,0,0,7.02,0,11.73,3.31,11.94,5.05,0,6.64,0,13.67,0,4.86,0.22,8.4,2.7,13.18,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1.53,3.76
Romanian:A325,0,0,0.13,2.82,0,5.24,0,0,11.22,0,8.82,11.85,3.4,7.2,0,10.66,0,11.85,0,0,1.33,6.44,6.78,4.16,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,2.3,0,4.31,1.5
Romanian:A343,0,0,0.83,0.58,0,3.82,0,0,12.66,0,8.92,6.45,5.79,4.25,5.13,18.25,0,13.25,0,1.63,0,0,1.81,5.38,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1.04,0,5.4,4.8
Romanian:A362,0,1.2,4.45,0.09,0,5.97,0,0,11.38,0,6.36,1.68,7.64,3.34,6.06,6,0,18.27,0.38,0,0.32,1.39,7.14,12.05,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0.91,0,0.38,5
Romanian:A374,0.5,0,3.58,0.29,0,7.06,0,0,8.29,0,13.5,2.48,3.63,7.2,4.06,11.62,0,13.46,0,0.98,0.47,3.19,3.23,3.62,0,0,0,0,0,0,5.21,0,0.51,0,0,7.1
Romanian:G408,0,0,0,4.02,0,1.67,0,0,10.34,0,13.01,9.19,9.26,2.46,3.65,6.24,0.27,13.1,0,3.27,0,6.23,8.18,3.51,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1.47,0.29,0,3.85
Romanian:G421,0,0,0,3.18,0,6.11,0,0,3.24,0,3.58,9.62,11.31,0.16,2.81,11.55,0,16.76,0,7.71,0.06,9.2,0,4.15,0,0,0,0,0,0,1.26,0,0.36,0,1.69,7.25
Romanian:G428,0,1.83,5.26,0.33,0,13.61,0,0,5.73,0,4.44,6.76,7.95,0,0,8.38,0,20.38,0,0,1.17,2.02,3.4,10.85,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1.09,0,0.37,6.42
Romanian:G429,0,0,2.95,0.17,0,6.92,0,0,14.1,0,14.41,3.24,2.27,2.51,2.94,18.33,0,14.3,0,0,0,0,4.99,3.4,0,0,0,0,0,4.32,0,0,0.18,0,1.89,3.06
Romanian:G434,0,3.02,0,0,0,11.85,0,0,11.94,0.17,10.55,5.94,0,2.09,6.55,11.44,0,13.09,0.29,0,1.44,4.54,5.3,4.55,0,0,0,0,0.13,1.62,0.77,0,0,0,0,4.72
Serbian:Serbian_Serbia1,0,0,0.99,2.08,0,5.47,0,0,6.98,0,14.05,4.69,10.22,6.93,2.5,12.22,0,12.07,0,1.92,0,3.96,4.4,3.68,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0.83,0,2.09,4.93
Serbian:Serbian_Serbia2,0,0.38,1.99,1.33,0,6.85,0,0,9.91,0,9.74,1.72,8.31,1.37,8.35,8.47,0,19.61,0,4.44,0.38,0.11,0.67,5.38,0,0,0,0,0,0,0.41,0,2.97,0,3.37,4.22
Serbian:Serbian_Serbia3,0,1.43,0.71,1.25,0,5.67,0,0,12.44,0,15.47,6.72,6.75,4.26,4.88,7.23,0,13.77,0,0,0,3.73,1.31,6.08,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1.44,0,5.15,1.69
Serbian:Serbian_Serbia4,0.43,0,1.24,1.71,0,8.2,0,0,11.16,0,9.82,12.09,8.78,3.32,2.49,5.97,0,11.3,0,3.46,0,3.73,4.96,5.11,0,0,0,0,0,0,0.09,0,0,0,0.45,5.69
Serbian:Serbian_Serbia5,0,0,4.2,0.34,0,8.63,0,0,8.01,0,13.93,5.37,4.74,2.58,2.16,12.73,0,12.4,0,1.69,0.5,5.87,6.58,4.48,0,0.08,0,0,0,0,0,0,1.56,0,0.39,3.75
Slovakian:Slovakia118,0,0,0,0,0,8.66,0,0,4.14,0,20.47,0,12.7,10.61,1.76,5.61,0,4.17,0,0,0,15.11,3.86,12.66,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0.23,0
Slovakian:Slovakia77,0,0,0,0,0,10.64,0,0,9.1,0,19.25,0,12.73,11.47,4.07,3.78,0,7.83,0,0.89,0,4.66,1.64,11.54,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0.95,0,0,1.45
Slovakian:Slovakia85,0,0,0,0,0,8.11,0,0,8.03,0,19.58,1.96,13.45,10.88,5.91,8.08,0,3.8,0,0,0,10.15,1.19,6.09,0,0,0,0,0,0,0.29,0,0.74,0,0,1.72
Slovakian:Slovakia94,0,0,0.1,1.09,0,9.38,0,0,7.43,0,18.96,1.16,14.04,8.2,4.76,3.65,0,9.46,0,1.24,0,8.74,0,9.15,0,0,0,0,0,0,0.29,0,2.34,0,0,0
Slovakian:Slovakia96,0,0,0,0.36,0,9.62,0,0,4.7,0,17.99,4.87,14.95,10.94,3.02,8.69,0,7.26,0,0.3,0,6.99,0,4.93,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1.52,0,0,3.86
Slovenian:Slovenian147,0,0,0,0.99,0,9.18,0,0,5.86,0,18.12,1.15,11.73,7.9,4.7,10.17,0,9.55,0,0,0,7.98,0.85,8.42,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1.56,0,0,1.83
Slovenian:Slovenian90,0,0,0.08,2.36,0,14.23,0,0,4.55,0,12.71,0,6.83,14.44,4.01,9.05,0,10.84,0,0,0,4.94,0,10.34,0.12,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0.84,0,2.56,2.1

Thank you. I've updated those groups.

Originally Posted by rothaer

Maybe add an asterisk for old and by time to be re-done and improved averages, f. i. "Bosnian*".

The old averages are below, spaced separately from the new ones, so you can choose not to copy them to Vahaduo. Have marked duplicates as 2.

Russki · 04-10-2022, 04:58 PM

Originally Posted by Creoda

Thank you. I've updated those groups.

Did you make the new Greek average from Greek_Central_Macedonia and Greek_NorthEast?

These are both Northern Greek regions, so we are again in the situation where Greek is Northern-shifted relative to Albanian.

Macedonian, Central, Thracian and Istanbul Greeks are the only ones which are Northern-shifted relative to Albanians in the old spreadsheet.

To make real Greek average, we need samples from the Southern regions too.

This one can be renamed to Greek_North.

Russki · 04-10-2022, 05:00 PM

double post

**Nurzat** · 04-10-2022, 05:40 PM

had to remove ex-Yugo and Bulgarian as I got that first (no ancestry from that region but the calculators are fooled by the similar East Slavic-Balkan mix that I am

):

Target: Nurzat
Distance: 1161.3821% / 11.61382117
47.8 Carpathian_Rusyns
27.6 Romanian
9.8 French_South
7.6 Greek
6.0 Italian_North
1.2 Turkish

then removed French, Italian, Spanish:

Target: Nurzat
Distance: 1177.0609% / 11.77060869
63.6 Romanian
34.8 Carpathian_Rusyns
1.6 Basque

Target: Nurzat
Distance: 1147.5990% / 11.47598954
31.0 Bosnian
29.8 Carpathian_Rusyns
19.0 Bulgarian
16.4 French_South
3.8 Romanian

Russki · 04-10-2022, 05:57 PM

Originally Posted by Nurzat

East Slavic-Balkan mix that I am

By East Slavic you mean Ukrainian? You do not qualify as 50% Ukrainian by these results.

**Nurzat** · 04-10-2022, 08:05 PM

Originally Posted by Russki

By East Slavic you mean Ukrainian? You do not qualify as 50% Ukrainian by these results.

I am not Ukrainian, I am Carpathian Rusnak

but only half. which genetically may be less than that because of the local history (village had German settlers majority) but that is not relevant, since locals speak exclusively Ukrainian, actually an archaic East Slavic speech, not the Russified Sovietized speech they use in Ukraine (when they don't speak Russian).

Romanian average is off as well, only 10 samples of which almost half are outliers. on other calculators I get half West Ukrainian. also on 23andme over 40% Ivano Frankivsk, over 40% northeast Romania.
just randomly, another calculator I just saw today on the main page, and consider that Ukrainian there is Eastern Ukrainian, so actual Western Ukrainian score would be higher:

Target: Nurzat
Distance: 1.2948% / 0.01294794 | ADC: 0.25x RC
50.8 Eastern_Balkans:Romanian_revised
29.4 Eastern_Europe:Ukrainian
17.2 Europe_Alps:Austrian
1.4 Balochistan:Balochi
1.2 Central_Asia:Uzbek

for border populations of ethnic groups of tens of millions those standard averages don't work greatly, as we know (see Italians, Turks, Germans etc)