Ultimate Ancient Iberian Calculator - Iron Age + Hellenistic + Imperial + Germanic/Arab Ruler

[Grace O'Malley]

I didn't say that the Insular Celts were close to hispano Celts, I said they were stealing DNA from them, and and the Hallstatt, notice that when you used the calculator, the Hallstatt we're there anymore, because they didn't match Iberians as well.

And if I take the individual samples for insular Celts instead of the average used before, I get this:

Target: Insular_Celt:England_EIA:I19863
Distance: 1.3738% / 0.01373772
47.2 Germanic_Ruler
22.2 Gaul
13.4 Iberian-Propper_IA
11.2 Hispano_Celt_IA
5.2 Celtiberian_IA
0.4 Amerindian
0.4 SSA

Target: Insular_Celt:England_EIA:I13689
Distance: 1.6755% / 0.01675534
44.8 Germanic_Ruler
28.6 Gaul
18.4 Celtiberian_IA
6.8 Iberian-Propper_IA
0.8 Amerindian
0.6 Imperial_Greco-Roman

Target: Insular_Celt:England_EIA:I11149
Distance: 1.4736% / 0.01473566
66.4 Germanic_Ruler
21.8 Gaul
7.6 Hispano_Celt_IA
4.0 Iberian-Propper_IA
0.2 Amerindian

Target: Insular_Celt:Scotland_IA:I16504
Distance: 2.5320% / 0.02532026
68.2 Gaul
29.0 Germanic_Ruler
2.0 Hispano_Celt_IA
0.8 SSA

Target: Insular_Celt:Scotland_EIA:I2692
Distance: 2.0649% / 0.02064915
69.2 Germanic_Ruler
28.4 Gaul
1.6 Amerindian
0.8 Imperial_Greco-Roman

Target: Insular_Celt:Scotland_EIA:I16498
Distance: 2.3112% / 0.02311212
67.0 Germanic_Ruler
31.4 Gaul
1.6 Amerindian

I'm just pointing out that Insular Celtic shouldn't really be stealing from either Hallstatt or Hispano Celts because they aren't similar. Have you tried removing other samples to see what happens? With my results removing Insular Celtic doesn't give me Hispano Cetlic in compensation but the Germanic_Ruler and Gaul goes up.

[Beowulf]

Target: k13:ivanK13
Distance: 0.8512% / 0.00851223
31.2 Iberian-Propper_IA
14.4 Gaul
14.4 Greek_Settler
11.2 Insular_Celt
10.4 Germanic_Ruler
7.2 Celtiberian_IA
5.4 Arab_Ruler
3.6 Berber_IA/MA
2.0 Phoenician
0.2 Tartesso-Lusitanian

i fucking love it it's so good matchs perfectly, good distance and shows my british i love the new update, if i found interesting samples for use i will post it here

[bained]

Target: BaiNed_simulatedk36
Distance: 0.0201% / 0.02005693
30.7 Germanic_Ruler
27.7 Gaul
22.6 Greek_Settler
11.9 Imperial_Greco-Roman
7.1 Phoenician

[Nelju]

Target: Nelju_scaled Distance: 1.1380% / 0.01138020
39.8	Amerindian
17.0	Germanic_Ruler
11.0	Gaul
7.8	Berber_IA/MA
7.2	Sephardic_Jew
6.2	Hispano_Celt_IA
5.8	SSA
4.8	Iberian-Propper_IA
0.4	Arab_Ruler

[alnortedelsur]

With the newest update, and all the Amerindian and SSA samples:

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 1.1206% / 0.01120645 | R5P
40.2 Gaul
24.0 Imperial_Greco-Roman
22.8 Iberian-Propper_IA
6.8 Amerindian
6.2 SSA

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 0.8409% / 0.00840856
42.0 Gaul
18.0 Imperial_Greco-Roman
11.2 Iberian-Propper_IA
7.0 Berber_IA/MA
6.8 Hispano_Celt_IA
6.6 Amerindian
4.4 SSA
4.0 Greek_Settler

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 1.0222% / 0.01022197 | ADC: 0.25x RC
34.4 Gaul
23.8 Celtiberian_IA
15.8 Imperial_Greco-Roman
7.6 Greek_Settler
7.2 Amerindian
6.8 Berber_IA/MA
4.4 SSA

Distanceto:	Alnortedelsur_scaled
0.08341856	Greek_Settler:Greco:GRC_Helladic_MBA:Log02
0.08385286	Gaul:Gaul:FRA_IA:ERS88
0.08584094	Gaul:Gaul_HLT:FRA_Grand_Est_IA1:Jeb8
0.08606148	Tartesso-Lusitanian:Iberia_West_Conimbriga:R10488
0.08676825	Gaul:Gaul:FRA_IA:NOR3-15
0.08688153	Tartesso-Lusitanian:Iberia_West_Conimbriga:R10487
0.09094340	Gaul:Gaul_HLT:FRA_Grand_Est_IA2:ERS1164
0.09115966	Celtiberian_IA:Iberia_North_IA:I3758
0.09243526	Gaul:Gaul:FRA_IA:COL153i
0.09409968	Gaul:Gaul:FRA_IA:ATT26
0.09593256	Iberian-Propper_IA:Iberia_East_IA:I3320
0.09632472	Hispano_Celt_IA:Iberia_North_IA:I3759
0.09636498	Greek_Settler:Greco:Greco-Micenei:GRC_Mycenaean:I9033
0.09648177	Iberian-Propper_IA:Iberia_East_IA:I12879
0.09822936	Gaul:Gaul_HLT:FRA_Hauts_De_France_IA2:BFM265
0.09907399	Imperial_Greco-Roman:Italia:Italic:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA:RMPR1016
0.10135699	Iberian-Propper_IA:Iberia_East_IA:I3322
0.10177715	Gaul:Gaul_HLT:FRA_Grand_Est_IA1:NOR2B6
0.10223114	Hispano_Celt_IA:Iberia_LIA:I19987
0.10279305	Hispano_Celt_IA:Iberia_LBA:I20740
0.10280320	Hispano_Celt_IA:Iberia_LBA:I2469
0.10321215	Gaul:Gaul:FRA_IA:NOR4
0.10348840	Celtiberian_IA:Iberia_LIA:I19991
0.10366536	Iberian-Propper_IA:I4556
0.10414017	Imperial_Greco-Roman:ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA_o
0.10416751	Imperial_Greco-Roman:Italia:Etruscan:ITA_Villanovan:RMPR1015
0.10529567	Tartesso-Lusitanian:Iberia_EIA_Tartessian:I12171
0.10598453	Greek_Settler:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA_o:RMPR437b
0.10685163	Gaul:Gaul_HLT:FRA_Grand_Est_IA2:COL153A
0.10779135	Gaul:Gaul_HLT:FRA_Grand_Est_IA2:ERS86
0.10999206	Germanic_Ruler:DEU_MA:ALH_10
0.11044674	Germanic_Ruler:DEU_MA:ALH_1
0.11107093	Imperial_Greco-Roman:Bell_Beaker_ITA:I1979
0.11236276	Iberian-Propper_IA:Iberia_East_IA:I12410
0.11257104	Gaul:Gaul_HLT:FRA_Grand_Est_IA1:NOR3-6
0.11348324	Germanic_Ruler:DEU_MA_Alemanic_Byzantine:NIEcap12c
0.11351031	Gaul:Gaul_HLT:FRA_Grand_Est_IA2:COL11
0.11502381	Imperial_Greco-Roman:UnderITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR39
0.11568250	Iberian-Propper_IA:Iberia_East_IA:I3321
0.11959434	Greek_Settler:Greco:Greco-Micenei:GRC_Mycenaean:I9041

[Jingle Bell]

Target: Nelju_scaled Distance: 1.1380% / 0.01138020
39.8	Amerindian
17.0	Germanic_Ruler
11.0	Gaul
7.8	Berber_IA/MA
7.2	Sephardic_Jew
6.2	Hispano_Celt_IA
5.8	SSA
4.8	Iberian-Propper_IA
0.4	Arab_Ruler

Wow, a true Suebi descendant lol

[Jingle Bell]

With the newest update, and all the Amerindian and SSA samples:

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 1.1206% / 0.01120645 | R5P
40.2 Gaul
24.0 Imperial_Greco-Roman
22.8 Iberian-Propper_IA
6.8 Amerindian
6.2 SSA

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 0.8409% / 0.00840856
42.0 Gaul
18.0 Imperial_Greco-Roman
11.2 Iberian-Propper_IA
7.0 Berber_IA/MA
6.8 Hispano_Celt_IA
6.6 Amerindian
4.4 SSA
4.0 Greek_Settler

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 1.0222% / 0.01022197 | ADC: 0.25x RC
34.4 Gaul
23.8 Celtiberian_IA
15.8 Imperial_Greco-Roman
7.6 Greek_Settler
7.2 Amerindian
6.8 Berber_IA/MA
4.4 SSA

Distanceto:	Alnortedelsur_scaled
0.08341856	Greek_Settler:Greco:GRC_Helladic_MBA:Log02
0.08385286	Gaul:Gaul:FRA_IA:ERS88
0.08584094	Gaul:Gaul_HLT:FRA_Grand_Est_IA1:Jeb8
0.08606148	Tartesso-Lusitanian:Iberia_West_Conimbriga:R10488
0.08676825	Gaul:Gaul:FRA_IA:NOR3-15
0.08688153	Tartesso-Lusitanian:Iberia_West_Conimbriga:R10487
0.09094340	Gaul:Gaul_HLT:FRA_Grand_Est_IA2:ERS1164
0.09115966	Celtiberian_IA:Iberia_North_IA:I3758
0.09243526	Gaul:Gaul:FRA_IA:COL153i
0.09409968	Gaul:Gaul:FRA_IA:ATT26
0.09593256	Iberian-Propper_IA:Iberia_East_IA:I3320
0.09632472	Hispano_Celt_IA:Iberia_North_IA:I3759
0.09636498	Greek_Settler:Greco:Greco-Micenei:GRC_Mycenaean:I9033
0.09648177	Iberian-Propper_IA:Iberia_East_IA:I12879
0.09822936	Gaul:Gaul_HLT:FRA_Hauts_De_France_IA2:BFM265
0.09907399	Imperial_Greco-Roman:Italia:Italic:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA:RMPR1016
0.10135699	Iberian-Propper_IA:Iberia_East_IA:I3322
0.10177715	Gaul:Gaul_HLT:FRA_Grand_Est_IA1:NOR2B6
0.10223114	Hispano_Celt_IA:Iberia_LIA:I19987
0.10279305	Hispano_Celt_IA:Iberia_LBA:I20740
0.10280320	Hispano_Celt_IA:Iberia_LBA:I2469
0.10321215	Gaul:Gaul:FRA_IA:NOR4
0.10348840	Celtiberian_IA:Iberia_LIA:I19991
0.10366536	Iberian-Propper_IA:I4556
0.10414017	Imperial_Greco-Roman:ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA_o
0.10416751	Imperial_Greco-Roman:Italia:Etruscan:ITA_Villanovan:RMPR1015
0.10529567	Tartesso-Lusitanian:Iberia_EIA_Tartessian:I12171
0.10598453	Greek_Settler:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA_o:RMPR437b
0.10685163	Gaul:Gaul_HLT:FRA_Grand_Est_IA2:COL153A
0.10779135	Gaul:Gaul_HLT:FRA_Grand_Est_IA2:ERS86
0.10999206	Germanic_Ruler:DEU_MA:ALH_10
0.11044674	Germanic_Ruler:DEU_MA:ALH_1
0.11107093	Imperial_Greco-Roman:Bell_Beaker_ITA:I1979
0.11236276	Iberian-Propper_IA:Iberia_East_IA:I12410
0.11257104	Gaul:Gaul_HLT:FRA_Grand_Est_IA1:NOR3-6
0.11348324	Germanic_Ruler:DEU_MA_Alemanic_Byzantine:NIEcap12c
0.11351031	Gaul:Gaul_HLT:FRA_Grand_Est_IA2:COL11
0.11502381	Imperial_Greco-Roman:UnderITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR39
0.11568250	Iberian-Propper_IA:Iberia_East_IA:I3321
0.11959434	Greek_Settler:Greco:Greco-Micenei:GRC_Mycenaean:I9041

U scored very low NA, i thought the Iberians who comes to Hispanic American were mostly Canarians with some Guanche admix, but i hearded Andalusians were numerous too so

[Eurafricanid]

U scored very low NA, i thought the Iberians who comes to Hispanic American were mostly Canarians with some Guanche admix, but i hearded Andalusians were numerous too so

You said that about his results and then I tought a bit... why do I score so low in NA DNA? It seems to be consistent with all the calculators, although, I do tend to score some minor Levantine, sometimes, but no NA? The portuguese seem to be the most NA admixed iberians why do I don't score NA, then? I also seem to not match Portuguese, not even when I do ~50/50 calculations like this:

Target: Jgab602_scaled
Distance: 0.7644% / 0.00764425 | R3P
50.0 Spanish_Eivissa
47.0 SSA
3.0 Amerindian

Target: Jgab602_scaled
Distance: 0.6328% / 0.00632848 | R4P
46.6 SSA
37.6 Spanish_Cantabria
13.2 Greek_Crete
2.6 Amerindian

Should I open a thread about this?

[Jingle Bell]

You said that about his results and then I tought a bit... why do I score so low in NA DNA? It seems to be consistent with all the calculators, although, I do tend to score some minor Levantine, sometimes, but no NA? The portuguese seem to be the most NA admixed iberians why do I don't score NA, then? I also seem to not match Portuguese, not even when I do ~50/50 calculations like this:

Target: Jgab602_scaled
Distance: 0.7644% / 0.00764425 | R3P
50.0 Spanish_Eivissa
47.0 SSA
3.0 Amerindian

Target: Jgab602_scaled
Distance: 0.6328% / 0.00632848 | R4P
46.6 SSA
37.6 Spanish_Cantabria
13.2 Greek_Crete
2.6 Amerindian

Should I open a thread about this?

Yeah thats interesting, maybe ur ancestors just dont intermix that much with NA's, u also looks more a cantabria like genetic makeup than portuguese by itself, but for example i always get a closer distance when i use Basque + MENA, but thats just bcs i have more WHG and ENF like a Basque but with a LOT of more MENA, when i take off basques samples i get Galician + MENA which makes more sense

how goes ur distance when u use only Galician and Portuguese samples? iberian peninsula is very homogenous so its normal a Portuguese be more aragon like or vice versa,just the basques are very isolated genetically

[Eurafricanid]

Yeah thats interesting, maybe ur ancestors just dont intermix that much with NA's, u also looks more a cantabria like genetic makeup than portuguese by itself, but for example i always get a closer distance when i use Basque + MENA, but thats just bcs i have more WHG and ENF like a Basque but with a LOT of more MENA, when i take off basques samples i get Galician + MENA which makes more sense

how goes ur distance when u use only Galician and Portuguese samples? iberian peninsula is very homogenous so its normal a Portuguese be more aragon like or vice versa,just the basques are very isolated genetically

Target: Jgab602_scaled
Distance: 1.0030% / 0.01003031 | R3P
51.4 Portuguese
46.0 SSA
2.6 Amerindian


Target: Jgab602_scaled
Distance: 0.9805% / 0.00980548 | R4P
46.2 SSA
30.6 Portuguese
20.8 Spanish_Galicia
2.4 Amerindian

I guess it's not that deep, but they do steal 1% from the SSA

For comparison:

Target: Jgab602_scaled
Distance: 0.7644% / 0.00764425 | R3P
50.0 Spanish_Eivissa
47.0 SSA
3.0 Amerindian