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    Quote Originally Posted by vikiingMallorcaSpain View Post
    Que muestra es "Bell_BeakerL"? Es un Outlier o algo así?
    No, simplemente intenté dejar la misma etiqueta Bell Beaker a todosy me dejé una L...

    QUité todos los outliers y contaminados, y un Corded Ware que era medio BB.

    Lo corregí, así que si vuelves a hacer el calculador con las sources corregidas debería salirte todo el % BB junto.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lplius View Post
    A WHG source would be useful.
    Bell Beakers and Corded Wares both have different European HG admixture, and some of the samples are over their culture average in that component.


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    Target: Jgab602_scaled
    Distance: 0.4063% / 0.00406298

    46.8 SSA
    34.4 Bell_Beaker
    8.2 Corded_Ware
    3.4 Maykop_Kura_Araxes(RUS_ARM)
    3.0 Levant_PPNB
    2.2 Amerindian
    2.0 Iran_Neolithic_(Ganj_Hosein_Wezmeh)



    Target: Jgab602_scaled
    Distance: 0.5333% / 0.00533274 | R5P

    46.8 SSA
    35.4 Bell_Beaker
    11.0 Corded_Ware
    4.4 Iran_Neolithic_(Ganj_Hosein_Wezmeh)
    2.4 Amerindian
    Target: Eurafricanid_scaled
    Distance: 1.1621% / 0.01162128

    46.4 Catalan
    31.2 West_African_Niger-Congo
    15.8 South-Central_African_Bantu
    4.0 Mesopotamian
    2.6 South_American_Native

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    Target: Kriptc_23nme
    Distance: 1.1345% / 0.01134460
    56.8 Bell_Beaker
    11.6 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
    11.0 Corded_Ware
    10.0 Yoruba
    8.2 Levant_PPNB
    2.4 Maykop_Kura_Araxes(RUS_ARM)

    Target: Kriptc_23nme
    Distance: 1.4380% / 0.01438048 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    54.6 Bell_Beaker
    17.2 Corded_Ware
    11.6 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
    8.6 Yoruba
    7.0 Levant_PPNB
    1.0 MAR_Taforalt
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jgab602 View Post
    Target: Jgab602_scaled
    Distance: 0.4063% / 0.00406298

    46.8 SSA
    34.4 Bell_Beaker
    8.2 Corded_Ware
    3.4 Maykop_Kura_Araxes(RUS_ARM)
    3.0 Levant_PPNB
    2.2 Amerindian
    2.0 Iran_Neolithic_(Ganj_Hosein_Wezmeh)



    Target: Jgab602_scaled
    Distance: 0.5333% / 0.00533274 | R5P

    46.8 SSA
    35.4 Bell_Beaker
    11.0 Corded_Ware
    4.4 Iran_Neolithic_(Ganj_Hosein_Wezmeh)
    2.4 Amerindian
    Levant_PPNB and Maykop_Kura_Araxes(RUS_ARM), overlap with Corded Ware and Bell Beaker?
    Target: Eurafricanid_scaled
    Distance: 1.1621% / 0.01162128

    46.4 Catalan
    31.2 West_African_Niger-Congo
    15.8 South-Central_African_Bantu
    4.0 Mesopotamian
    2.6 South_American_Native

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixajo View Post
    Bell Beakers and Corded Wares both have different European HG admixture, and some of the samples are over their culture average in that component.
    Bell Beakers / Corded Wares didn't mix with levantine neolithic farmers (Levant_PPNB) but with ANF with extra WHG. You need this component.
    I doubt this model without WHG works on Balts and Basques.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lplius View Post
    Bell Beakers / Corded Wares didn't mix with levantine neolithic farmers (Levant_PPNB) but with ANF with extra WHG. You need this component.
    I doubt this model without WHG works on Balts and Basques.
    I´ve posted my mother´s results, she is Basque from Álava province... (more peri-Basque than "pure" Basque, although 15- 16% WHG)

    For Baltics, one of the Corded Ware culture sample (Spyginas) has double WHG than any modern Lithuanian, and at least half of the samples have more than 20% WHG, most of them Corded but also BBs.

    Can you post your results?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jgab602 View Post
    Levant_PPNB and Maykop_Kura_Araxes(RUS_ARM), overlap with Corded Ware and Bell Beaker?
    Nop, but if u take this off u will need a other aproximation for ur CHG realated ancestry
    And u know, Corded Ware were heavily Yamnaya, and Yamnaya were abt 1/2 CHG, so u will gt more Corded as a aproximation for ur Araxes/Natufian
    Distance: 1.3003% / 0.01300250 | R5P
    44.6 Spanish_Canarias_Gran_Canaria_(Canarian)_o_(n=3)
    28.8 Esan_(n=8)
    14.4 Ronga_(n=3)
    9.0 Egyptian_Arab_Muslim_Sharqia_(n=2)
    3.2 Surui_(n=7)

    Other ancestors y-DNA's: E-M81 (possibly E-PF2546), R-L52 (possibly R-L151)

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    Target: Gallop_scaled
    Distance: 1.3252% / 0.01325165
    83.6 Bell_Beaker
    9.8 Maykop_Kura_Araxes(RUS_ARM)
    5.0 MAR_Taforalt
    1.0 Levant_PPNB
    0.4 Yoruba
    0.2 Corded_Ware

    Target: Father_scaled
    Distance: 1.5612% / 0.01561158
    79.0 Bell_Beaker
    10.6 Corded_Ware
    3.4 Levant_PPNB
    3.4 MAR_Taforalt
    2.0 Maykop_Kura_Araxes(RUS_ARM)
    1.6 Yoruba
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lplius View Post
    Bell Beakers / Corded Wares didn't mix with levantine neolithic farmers (Levant_PPNB) but with ANF with extra WHG. You need this component.
    I doubt this model without WHG works on Balts and Basques.
    It´s true that Baltics (Lithuanians at least) have distances about 3 with this model, but this distance doesn´t change adding Baltic_HG individual samples, even removing the Corded Ware Spiginas2 sample.

    Basques are modelled perfectly with the original samples of the first post, and same than Baltics, their results don´t change adding Baltic_HG samples.

    You can check it for yourself if you want, adding these samples to my original calculator:

    Spoiler!


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