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Thread: What Modern British Populations are you Closer to (SCALED)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anglo-Celtic View Post
    It seems like Southern Europeans are much closer to Cornish and/or Welsh, and much farther from Irish and/or Scottish. Grace will feel vindicated.
    I should have titled the thread "Which modern British/Irish population are you closer to". I know Irish are their own thing, but I can't avoid perceiving all those populations (including Irish) as almost the same thing (racially speaking, regardless of British having some more Germanic input). I hope Grace won't get mad
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    Code:
    Target: Viriato_scaled
    Distance: 7.7774% / 0.07777378
    100.0	English_Cornwall
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    Target: Wife_scaled
    Distance: 7.8496% / 0.07849558
    100.0	Welsh
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    Target: Father_scaled
    Distance: 7.1322% / 0.07132243
    100.0	Welsh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas View Post
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    Target: Viriato_scaled
    Distance: 7.7774% / 0.07777378
    100.0	English_Cornwall
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    Target: Wife_scaled
    Distance: 7.8496% / 0.07849558
    100.0	Welsh
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    Target: Father_scaled
    Distance: 7.1322% / 0.07132243
    100.0	Welsh
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    Quote Originally Posted by alnortedelsur View Post
    I should have titled the thread "Which modern British/Irish population are you closer to". I know Irish are their own thing, but I can't avoid looking at all those populations (including Irish) as almost the same thing (racially speaking, regardless of British having some more Germanic input). I hope Grace will not get mad at me
    I'm sure that Grace won't get mad at you. My point is that it shows that Oppenheimer's "muh Irish are Basques" theory is heretical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anglo-Celtic View Post
    I'm sure that Grace won't get mad at you. My point is that it shows that Oppenheimer's "muh Irish are Basques" theory is heretical.
    I think some ancient population that spread from Iberia was widespread in British Isles (and probably other parts of Western Europe) in the far past (maybe some pre-indo European element that peaks in modern Iberians?), but it was very absorbed/diluted by different waves of more recent Indo-European migrations. South west England and Wales were relatively less exposed to those waves, including Celts, Anglo Saxons, Normans, Viking raids and what not, than the rest of Great Britain and Ireland, due to their particularly isolated location in westernmost corners of Britain, and not facing open sea (contrary to England, the rest of Scotland and Ireland). So, even though, at the end they got a lot of those north/central Euro contributions, that primary pre-Indo-European component (peaking in modern Iberians) wasn't as much absorbed/diluted in there as in the rest of British Isles and Ireland. That's in my humble opinion what would explain them being the closest to Iberians compared to the rest Britain/Ireland.
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    Distance to: CDG_scaled
    0.01700079 Scottish
    0.01720422 Shetlandic
    0.01810896 English_Cornwall
    0.01849192 Irish
    0.01901995 Welsh
    0.01905219 English
    0.01923543 Orcadian

    Target: CDG_scaled
    Distance: 1.4844% / 0.01484437
    54.4 Shetlandic
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    Quote Originally Posted by alnortedelsur View Post
    Distances, please!

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    Distance to:	Viriato_scaled
    0.07777378	English_Cornwall
    0.07836818	Welsh
    0.08032785	English
    0.08300776	Orcadian
    0.08333271	Scottish
    0.08607918	Irish
    0.08798689	Shetlandic

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    Distance to:	Wife_scaled
    0.07849558	Welsh
    0.07961247	English_Cornwall
    0.08149548	English
    0.08423908	Scottish
    0.08448249	Orcadian
    0.08614526	Irish
    0.08986051	Shetlandic
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    Distance to:	Father_scaled
    0.07132243	Welsh
    0.07215870	English_Cornwall
    0.07374160	English
    0.07673790	Scottish
    0.07676662	Orcadian
    0.07955827	Irish
    0.08072931	Shetlandic
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    Target: Gil_Vicente
    Distance: 7.0807% / 0.07080717
    100.0 English_Cornwall


    Distance to: Gil_Vicente
    0.07080717 English_Cornwall
    0.07159057 Welsh
    0.07321661 English
    0.07603541 Orcadian
    0.07623241 Scottish
    0.07917603 Irish
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    Target: HelloGuys_scaled
    Distance: 25.5558% / 0.25555816

    100.0 Orcadian

    Distance to: HelloGuys_scaled
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    0.25732266 Scottish
    0.25776806 Irish
    0.25890969 Shetlandic
    0.25947195 English
    0.25964704 Welsh
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    Quote Originally Posted by HelloGuys View Post
    Target: HelloGuys_scaled
    Distance: 25.5558% / 0.25555816

    100.0 Orcadian

    Distance to: HelloGuys_scaled
    0.25555816 Orcadian
    0.25732266 Scottish
    0.25776806 Irish
    0.25890969 Shetlandic
    0.25947195 English
    0.25964704 Welsh
    0.26130117 English_Cornwall
    Wow, unlike Spaniards, Portuguese or me (predominately Spanish) you get a very different order of closeness to British populations.
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