Final Realistic Iberian Calculator

[Eurafricanid]

I mean that would help the calculator is replace Iberia BA and Proto-celts by a NW Iberian IA sample, bcs in that way they would not overlap with visigoths, unlike when we put Celtic apart
we dont need NW Iberia BA, bcs they were just Iberians of Atlantic bronze Age, and we alr have that type of sample . . what we dont need its Gallaecian or Lusitans samples which would help us with replace Proto-celt and Iberian BA by Lusitan/Gallaeci, bcs in that way we would be able to use visigoths too ut without the overlap with proto-celts and Goths, u get it?
Also the closer which we have to that Western iberian celt are samples from the Roman Time Portugal (center) which were a bit Roman and NA admixed so . . . unlike Iberia NW BA which we have samples even from Cantabria, we dont need more

I don't think you understood the purpose of this calculator. Why should I replace the Iberian BA and Proto-Celtic samples, with mixed forms, if I want to see exactly how much of each of them Iberians have?

How much Hispano-Celtic DNA Iberians have is for another Calculator, I hope you understood it now.

[Eurafricanid]

You shouldn't use Iberian Germanic samples. That's like using Celtiberians instead of Hallstatt. Something Germanic from Central Europe should be used instead.

The image you showed doesn't have anything to do with Germanic Samples at all.
The actual Germanic Impact was close to 0% and very hard to distinguish it from Proto-Celt Influence (Central Europeans)

[Jingle Bell]

You shouldn't use Iberian Germanic samples. That's like using Celtiberians instead of Hallstatt. Something Germanic from Central Europe should be used instead.

what? but im not using iberian germanics, im using 2 Iberians samples which lived before the settlers of Goths, showing that they alr are like modern iberians, showing that germaniics had a few impact

[Jingle Bell]

I don't think you understood the purpose of this calculator. Why should I replace the Iberian BA and Proto-Celtic samples, with mixed forms, if I want to see exactly how much of each of them Iberians have?

How much Hispano-Celtic DNA Iberians have is for another Calculator, I hope you understood it now.

Oh i understand what u mean bruh
im just saying that if we put Gallaeci samples instead Iberia Ba & Proto Celts we would use also goth samples bcs would have no overlap, im not saying abt do this in this model, im just saying a idea for a possible next model, u understand?

[Eurafricanid]

Oh i understand what u mean bruh
im just saying that if we put Gallaeci samples instead Iberia Ba & Proto Celts we would use also goth samples bcs would have no overlap, im not saying abt do this in this model, im just saying a idea for a possible next model, u understand?

ohhh... so that's what you mean! Absolutelly! I do agree with you, but I still think they (Iberian IA) whould overlap with Goths. As it happened in my other model (although I only used Lusitani samples and all other IA samples, not Gallaeci), I don't think Galicians/Portuguese and other Iberians are ~30% Germanic, lol!

[vader]

Target: Luso_scaled
Distance: 1.7627% / 0.01762734
46.8 Proto-Celts
28.2 Iberia_BA
15.4 Berbers_&_Guanches
9.6 Greeks_Colonies/Romans

Target: Luso_dad_scaled
Distance: 1.4411% / 0.01441149
51.4 Proto-Celts
27.4 Iberia_BA
13.6 Berbers_&_Guanches
4.6 Greeks_Colonies/Romans
3.0 Phoenicians_of_Iberia

Target: Luso_mom_scaled
Distance: 1.7478% / 0.01747820
50.2 Proto-Celts
18.8 Iberia_BA
18.2 Greeks_Colonies/Romans
12.8 Berbers_&_Guanches


Target: LusoGF_Simulated
Distance: 5.0221% / 0.05022093
47.6 Proto-Celts
26.6 Greeks_Colonies/Romans
25.8 Imperial_Romans

[Jingle Bell]

Target: Luso_scaled
Distance: 1.7627% / 0.01762734
46.8 Proto-Celts
28.2 Iberia_BA
15.4 Berbers_&_Guanches
9.6 Greeks_Colonies/Romans

Target: Luso_dad_scaled
Distance: 1.4411% / 0.01441149
51.4 Proto-Celts
27.4 Iberia_BA
13.6 Berbers_&_Guanches
4.6 Greeks_Colonies/Romans
3.0 Phoenicians_of_Iberia

Target: Luso_mom_scaled
Distance: 1.7478% / 0.01747820
50.2 Proto-Celts
18.8 Iberia_BA
18.2 Greeks_Colonies/Romans
12.8 Berbers_&_Guanches


Target: LusoGF_Simulated
Distance: 5.0221% / 0.05022093
47.6 Proto-Celts
26.6 Greeks_Colonies/Romans
25.8 Imperial_Romans

Damn, a good amount of Na and Proto-Celt, i think the averages of Portuguese its respectively 11% and 40%

[vader]

Damn, a good amount of Na and Proto-Celt, i think the averages of Portuguese its respectively 11% and 40%

G25 inflates north African with the reference you're using... And on g25 in general due to ancestral nafri being so old it has issues. Hence why qpadm is a better solution. On ruderico's models I get 11% nafri exactly... Not sure what references he uses but head over to anthrogenica to ask him if you want. I believe you were wondering in pm.

[alnortedelsur]

With the calculator using Proto-Celts, and just like it is, without adding anything else:

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 4.8789% / 0.04878884
54.0 Proto-Celts
25.2 Berbers_&_Guanches
20.8 Greeks_Colonies/Romans

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 4.9055% / 0.04905540 | ADC: 0.25x RC
55.6 Proto-Celts
25.6 Berbers_&_Guanches
18.8 Greeks_Colonies/Romans

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 5.1104% / 0.05110389 | ADC: 0.5x RC
55.2 Proto-Celts
23.0 Phoenicians_of_Iberia
21.8 Berbers_&_Guanches

Distanceto:	Alnortedelsur_scaled
0.07455881	Phoenicians_of_Iberia:Iberia_Ibiza_Punic:MS10614
0.08341856	Greeks_Colonies/Romans:Greco:GRC_Helladic_MBA:Log02
0.08936200	Proto-Celts:Urnfield:CZE_LBA_Knoviz:I13795
0.08942279	Imperial_Romans:ITA_Etruria_Imperial:ETR001
0.09067353	Proto-Celts:Urnfield:CZE_LBA_Knoviz:I15041
0.09284908	Proto-Celts:Urnfield:CZE_LBA_Knoviz:I15955
0.09361704	Proto-Celts:Urnfield:CZE_LBA_Knoviz:I13798
0.09368782	Iberia_BA:Iberia_Mallorca_EBA:I4329
0.09474180	Proto-Celts:Urnfield:CZE_LBA_Knoviz:I20517
0.09505630	Proto-Celts:CZE_IA_Hallstatt:I16327
0.09636498	Greeks_Colonies/Romans:Greco:Greco-Micenei:GRC_Mycenaean:I9033
0.09696781	Phoenicians_of_Iberia:ITA_Sardinia_Punic:VIL007
0.09716418	Proto-Celts:Urnfield:CZE_LBA_Knoviz:I20525
0.09762838	Proto-Celts:Urnfield:CZE_LBA_Knoviz:I15960
0.09826571	Proto-Celts:Urnfield:CZE_LBA_Knoviz:I16182
0.09861258	Imperial_Romans:ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA:RMPR851
0.09907399	Imperial_Romans:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA:RMPR1016
0.09921728	Proto-Celts:CZE_IA_Hallstatt:I15071
0.09969885	Proto-Celts:Urnfield:CZE_LBA_Knoviz:I15958
0.09988243	Iberia_BA:Iberia_BA:Iberia_Southwest_BA:I10939
0.10008898	Proto-Celts:CZE_IA_Hallstatt:I16088
0.10030068	Iberia_BA:Iberia_Formentera_MBA:I4420_all
0.10086820	Proto-Celts:Urnfield:CZE_LBA_Knoviz:I13793
0.10282988	Proto-Celts:Urnfield:CZE_LBA_Knoviz:I13799
0.10296218	Proto-Celts:CZE_IA_Hallstatt:I14983
0.10346921	Iberia_BA:Iberia_BA:Iberia_North_BA:VAD004
0.10423934	Iberia_BA:Iberia_BA:Iberia_North_BA:I2471
0.10467655	Iberia_BA:Iberia_BA:Iberia_Southeast_BA:I8570
0.10495195	Iberia_BA:Iberia_BA:Iberia_Central_BA:I6470
0.10520283	Iberia_BA:Iberia_BA:Iberia_North_BA:I2470
0.10581745	Proto-Celts:CZE_IA_Hallstatt:I13781
0.10598453	Greeks_Colonies/Romans:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA_o:RMPR437b
0.10599122	Proto-Celts:Urnfield:CZE_LBA_Knoviz:I20526
0.10680883	Iberia_BA:Iberia_BA:Iberia_Northeast_BA:I4562
0.10695995	Proto-Celts:Urnfield:CZE_LBA_Knoviz:I13792
0.10785629	Iberia_BA:Iberia_BA:Iberia_Central_BA:I3493
0.10842458	Iberia_BA:Iberia_BA:Iberia_Central_BA:I12209
0.10873186	Iberia_BA:Iberia_BA:Iberia_Northeast_BA:I1836
0.10898188	Proto-Celts:Urnfield:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany:DA112
0.10967971	Proto-Celts:Urnfield:CZE_LBA_Knoviz:I17311

Same calculator with Amerindian and SSA coordinates:

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 1.9320% / 0.01931982
36.2 Proto-Celts
21.6 Iberia_BA
18.8 Greeks_Colonies/Romans
12.2 Berbers_&_Guanches
8.2 Amerindian_North
3.0 SSA

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 2.1146% / 0.02114598 | ADC: 0.25x RC
47.6 Proto-Celts
17.6 Phoenicians_of_Iberia
15.2 Greeks_Colonies/Romans
9.8 Berbers_&_Guanches
7.6 Amerindian_North
2.2 SSA

Distances keep being the same, since my Amerindian and SSA don't show whitin the closest 40 references.

Replacing Proto-Celts with Gauls WITHOUT Amerindian and SSA references:

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 4.6654% / 0.04665437
54.2 Gauls
24.2 Berbers_&_Guanches
19.4 Greeks_Colonies/Romans
1.8 Iberia_BA
0.4 Phoenicians_of_Iberia

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 4.6783% / 0.04678300 | ADC: 0.25x RC
54.6 Gauls
22.8 Berbers_&_Guanches
19.4 Greeks_Colonies/Romans
3.2 Phoenicians_of_Iberia

Distanceto:	Alnortedelsur_scaled
0.07455881	Phoenicians_of_Iberia:Iberia_Ibiza_Punic:MS10614
0.08341856	Greeks_Colonies/Romans:Greco:GRC_Helladic_MBA:Log02
0.08584094	Gauls:Celtic:Gaul_HLT:FRA_Grand_Est_IA1:Jeb8
0.08942279	Imperial_Romans:ITA_Etruria_Imperial:ETR001
0.09094340	Gauls:Celtic:Gaul_HLT:FRA_Grand_Est_IA2:ERS1164
0.09368782	Iberia_BA:Iberia_Mallorca_EBA:I4329
0.09409968	Gauls:Celtic:Gaul:FRA_IA:ATT26
0.09636498	Greeks_Colonies/Romans:Greco:Greco-Micenei:GRC_Mycenaean:I9033
0.09696781	Phoenicians_of_Iberia:ITA_Sardinia_Punic:VIL007
0.09822936	Gauls:Celtic:Gaul_HLT:FRA_Hauts_De_France_IA2:BFM265
0.09861258	Imperial_Romans:ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA:RMPR851
0.09907399	Imperial_Romans:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA:RMPR1016
0.09988243	Iberia_BA:Iberia_BA:Iberia_Southwest_BA:I10939
0.10030068	Iberia_BA:Iberia_Formentera_MBA:I4420_all
0.10346921	Iberia_BA:Iberia_BA:Iberia_North_BA:VAD004
0.10423934	Iberia_BA:Iberia_BA:Iberia_North_BA:I2471
0.10467655	Iberia_BA:Iberia_BA:Iberia_Southeast_BA:I8570
0.10495195	Iberia_BA:Iberia_BA:Iberia_Central_BA:I6470
0.10520283	Iberia_BA:Iberia_BA:Iberia_North_BA:I2470
0.10598453	Greeks_Colonies/Romans:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA_o:RMPR437b
0.10680883	Iberia_BA:Iberia_BA:Iberia_Northeast_BA:I4562
0.10685163	Gauls:Celtic:Gaul_HLT:FRA_Grand_Est_IA2:COL153A
0.10779135	Gauls:Celtic:Gaul_HLT:FRA_Grand_Est_IA2:ERS86
0.10785629	Iberia_BA:Iberia_BA:Iberia_Central_BA:I3493
0.10842458	Iberia_BA:Iberia_BA:Iberia_Central_BA:I12209
0.10873186	Iberia_BA:Iberia_BA:Iberia_Northeast_BA:I1836
0.11053741	Iberia_BA:Iberia_BA:Iberia_Northeast_BA:I1310
0.11092331	Iberia_BA:Iberia_BA:Iberia_Northeast_BA:I1313_d
0.11192172	Iberia_BA:Iberia_BA:Iberia_Northeast_BA:I4561
0.11230572	Iberia_BA:Iberia_BA:Iberia_Northeast_BA:I4563
0.11238003	Iberia_BA:Iberia_BA:Iberia_Central_BA:I12208
0.11257104	Gauls:Celtic:Gaul_HLT:FRA_Grand_Est_IA1:NOR3-6
0.11351031	Gauls:Celtic:Gaul_HLT:FRA_Grand_Est_IA2:COL11
0.11355596	Gauls:Celtic:Celt_HLT:HUN_LaTene_IA:I20774
0.11367895	Iberia_BA:Iberia_BA:Iberia_Northeast_BA:I4560
0.11394822	Iberia_BA:Iberia_BA:Iberia_Southwest_BA:I10941
0.11416390	Iberia_BA:Iberia_BA:Iberia_Central_BA:I3490
0.11465194	Iberia_BA:Iberia_BA:Iberia_Central_BA:I6618
0.11502381	Imperial_Romans:Mix:UnderITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR39
0.11509917	Iberia_BA:Iberia_BA:Iberia_North_BA:VAD005

Same Calculator (including Gauls) WITH Amerindian and SSA references:

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 1.6307% / 0.01630664
36.0 Gauls
20.8 Phoenicians_of_Iberia
16.4 Greeks_Colonies/Romans
9.2 Iberia_BA
8.0 Amerindian_North
6.6 Berbers_&_Guanches
3.0 SSA

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 1.6845% / 0.01684469 | ADC: 0.25x RC
39.8 Gauls
34.8 Phoenicians_of_Iberia
10.8 Greeks_Colonies/Romans
7.8 Amerindian_North
3.8 Berbers_&_Guanches
3.0 SSA

Distances are the same, since Amerindian and SSA don't appear among the 40 closest references.

[RyoHazuki]

Target: G25K13SimRyoHazuki
Distance: 0.8336% / 0.00833564
47.0 Proto-Celts
41.6 Visigoth
9.8 Iberia_BA
1.6 Berbers_&_Guanches

Target: Ryo_scaled
Distance: 2.9416% / 0.02941567
53.6 Visigoth
35.6 Proto-Celts
4.0 Iberia_BA
3.8 Greeks_Colonies/Romans
3.0 Berbers_&_Guanches

Target: G25K13SimRyoHazuki
Distance: 0.7459% / 0.00745899
49.8 Visigoth
28.8 Gauls
16.2 Iberia_BA
3.6 Imperial_Romans
1.6 Berbers_&_Guanches

Target: Ryo_scaled
Distance: 2.5255% / 0.02525529
57.8 Gauls
35.6 Visigoth
5.2 Berbers_&_Guanches
1.4 Greeks_Colonies/Romans