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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOldNorth View Post
    Pakistani's are caucasoid as far as I can tell
    Really? I never considered those Pakis as such. This is probably because the Caucasoid race for me is only for Europeans or people known as Whites ( White race). Unless we change the meaning of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOldNorth View Post
    I think it's easier for an american to be fascinated with native americans because a lot of our history in america even post settlement by our european ancestors involves our interactions with them, and the fact that they inhabited this continent long before and have left marks, and even names on it.
    A lot of Europeans are interested in that even without those connections told by you. Admittedly I'd likely be more interested with such connections, particularly place names would likely lead me to that. On the other hand I would likely feel uncomfortable with dealing more closely with the fact that I'm an intruder only and profit from maintaining a big crime. I don't say more than uncomfortable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rothaer View Post
    A lot of Europeans are interested in that even without those connections told by you. Admittedly I'd likely be more interested with such connections, particularly place names would likely lead me to that. On the other hand I would likely feel uncomfortable with dealing more closely with the fact that I'm an intruder only and profit from maintaining a big crime. I don't say more than uncomfortable.
    all peoples have displaced another at one point or another, granted I don't condone many of the acts taken against the native americans, but if we are going to say american colonization was an evil deed than so to is the turks in anatolia, or the germans ever where south of the Harz mountains or the english living in england, but I would not say any are because they are human nature and history

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    Quote Originally Posted by Septentrion View Post
    Really? I never considered those Pakis as such. This is probably because the Caucasoid race for me is only for Europeans or people known as Whites ( White race). Unless we change the meaning of it.
    Caucasoid not Caucasian

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOldNorth View Post
    all peoples have displaced another at one point or another, granted I don't condone many of the acts taken against the native americans, but if we are going to say american colonization was an evil deed than so to is the turks in anatolia, or the germans ever where south of the Harz mountains or the english living in england, but I would not say any are because they are human nature and history
    The spread of Anglo-Saxons over the British Isles, the spread of the Germanics south of the Harz and the spread of the Turkmen-like Turks to Anatolia are comparable to the immigration of Spaniards to Mexico: In all those cases the indigenous people remained a big proportion of the following mixture, often abt. 50% and in Anatolia even abt. 85%. This is the common way in history and not what I refer to. I refer to an event where the indigenous population is essentially wiped out (genocided) and the following population not also decends from them (from which circumstance some legitimacy could have been derived). This ought to apply to Australia and also to notable parts of the USA and to Cuba. And it is comparably rare.

    Doubtless those things "are human nature and history". But after every murder is as well, I'm not sure what should be derived from such a determination.
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    Mexicans, we mexicans are sexy native americans with just Spanish,Mena, SSA Input

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    Quote Originally Posted by rothaer View Post
    The spread of Anglo-Saxons over the British Isles, the spread of the Germanics south of the Harz and the spread of the Turkmen-like Turks to Anatolia are comparable to the immigration of Spaniards to Mexico: In all those cases the indigenous people remained a big proportion of the following mixture, often abt. 50% and in Anatolia even abt. 85%. This is the common way in history and not what I refer to. I refer to an event where the indigenous population is essentially wiped out (genocided) and the following population not also decends from them (from which circumstance some legitimacy could have been derived). This ought to apply to Australia and also to notable parts of the USA and to Cuba. And it is comparably rare.

    Doubtless those things "are human nature and history". But after every murder is as well, I'm not sure what should be derived from such a determination.
    An Interesting fact the Hispanization of Mexico happened after the Indepence of massive race mixing before Indepence Mexico was only 20% mestizo and "white" yet today even pure amerindians have small admixtures of Spanish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laredo View Post
    Mexicans, we mexicans are sexy native americans with just Spanish,Mena, SSA Input
    I refrain from assessing whether that Gomorrah is sexy or not. But, however, nobody can say that today's Mexicans don't belong to Mexico.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rothaer View Post
    The spread of Anglo-Saxons over the British Isles, the spread of the Germanics south of the Harz and the spread of the Turkmen-like Turks to Anatolia are comparable to the immigration of Spaniards to Mexico: In all those cases the indigenous people remained a big proportion of the following mixture, often abt. 50% and in Anatolia even abt. 85%. This is the common way in history and not what I refer to. I refer to an event where the indigenous population is essentially wiped out (genocided) and the following population not also decends from them (from which circumstance some legitimacy could have been derived). This ought to apply to Australia and also to notable parts of the USA and to Cuba. And it is comparably rare.

    Doubtless those things "are human nature and history". But after every murder is as well, I'm not sure what should be derived from such a determination.
    Well then a better comparison may be both the bell beaker invasion of Britain which whipped out 90% of the previous population's genetics from the isles, or the Assyrian conquest of Elam which nearly destroyed the entire elamite population, either way whipping out of peoples off the face of the earth was not unheard of in prehistory, and the majority of the deaths of native americans were caused by disease anyways, with an estimated 75-90% of the population of north america (not including central america) being dead before the bulk of europeans arrived do to the spread of small pox and other european diseases that came from animal husbandry (which was not practiced by native american's besides Llamas in the Andes).

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