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thanks,sure we are in decline, but we still launching satellites and space rockets in space and even have a space defense program ,we are in competition with Boeing with Airbus,with Toulouse aerospace and Thales for military and defense ,and our fighter plane Rafale is one of the best
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Yes, but public services, buildings, roads, highroads, trains (tgv) and overall infrastructure in France is far far better. Also most of the cities and villages are much better kept and they have competitions for urban beautification. Also the country side is more productive and their products of a far better quality...I can’t think of much agricultural products on which Britain excels.
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It may have the TGV, but its traditional and local rail routes have been notoriously neglected in recent years. And would you say Paris and Marseille are nowadays better-kept cities than London and Birmingham? (Even disregarding the most heavily non-white neighbourhoods in all four cities). Also, if you want to find 'productive agriculture', try East Anglia or much of Yorkshire.
Anyway, I agree the HDI has its limitations - it looks specifically at GNI per capita, life expectancy and average years spent in education, while largely disregarding transport, infrastructure etc.
N.B. I said the HDI of Ile-de-France was similar to Southeast England, not the same: 0.952 versus 0.942. (Incidentally, Southeast England's HDI is exactly the same as the overall rate for Germany).
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I don't think years of schooling means a lot, even not considering the main cause of its further decline (immigration), it's very dependent on how a society accepts craftwork training. It's a double edge sword criteria. Japan has a low one too as they value craft jobs. The rest is debatable shift in pedagogy around the 80's that even the left now recognize was a mistake (education is obviously entirely controlled by the left)
As for the regional breakdown, it reflects more or less wealth, but even there doesn't tell the whole story. Some districts in IDF are very poor, some very rich. Same applies to Rhône-Alpes (i grew up there) or PACA, and not even considering banlieues in the picture. Most of France is basically, small villages made of some farms surrounding a church with small businesses and industries in between that and bigger cities, more so than any other country. Even with all the infrastructures and social policies, the gap is still wide, like 2 worlds living apart at a distance.
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but it's India who bought our Rafale fighter jets,and with our help for the indian space program
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Only because of years of schooling. GNI per capita is still higher in France than UK on average, that's more surprising considering the economy has been going downhill in the last decades, all the shithole banlieues, about 20 millions people of immigrant background who are highly unqualified and unemployed, highest social expenditures in Europe, etc... UK doesn't have all these problems at the same scale, yet.
Life expectency is 0.5 year lower than Spain, but still higher than Germany, UK, Netherlands, Danemark, etc... by that token, Monaco has the highest life expectency by a landslide at 86.7y
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The problem with France, is its extreme overcentralisation in every possible metric. France should really do what Germany did and start political, social, cultural and economic decentralisation, so you get a poly-center country. Much like Germany or Switzerland.
A look at French road and TGV maps shows the issue with France in its most glaring light:
Paris is the black hole, from which little light escapes.
Compare it to Germany and you'd get a very different picture: in Germany, the functions of government are divided between Bonn, Karlsruhe and Berlin. While the Ruhr Area may be the economic heart, it's hardly the only one. Roads and rail don't center on Berlin, although they certainly connect it to the rest of Germany and Europe etc.
Wake up and smell the coffee.
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