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Thanks! And hmm well I think it is quite risky that Ancestry even tries to differentiate them at all to be honest lol. I mean I suppose due to similarities I'm not terribly surprised that there appears to be some mix-up between the two, I would expect it to some extent, but I do think they could do a little bit better telling them apart. So yes. It seems like Scotland is very often overestimated (but not always) and even pops up in people as far as Eastern Europe in trace amounts. I know that Ancestry does say a lot of these components are found in many areas though.
And huh that is weird with 23andme, the 23andme recent ancestor locations are more accurate than the genetic groups for me, although my mom's genetic groups are quite accurate but me and my sisters are variable. What recent ancestor locations/genetic communities do you get on 23andme and Ancestry?
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I don't trust ancestrydna or 23andme nor livingdna etc... as these things are cynically market to amerimutts. I trust things I can use with my raw dna that is blinded , kind of like the concepts of double blind and triple blind studies.
Both these two these tools place me in England without a company knowing who I am thus cynically lying to me :
https://www.exploreyourdna.com/k36_gps.aspx
https://github.com/wenyun/spa
^ The latter is too geeky for 99.9% of people, though, but places me in Southern England.
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The Irish Brigade's battle cry at Fontenoy, "Cuimhnigķ ar Luimneach agus ar feall na Sasanaigh," translates to "Remember Limerick and the treachery of the English." After seeing the devastation caused by the Irish Brigade, the Duke of Cumberland reportedly remarked, "God curse the laws that made those men our enemies".
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The Irish Brigade's battle cry at Fontenoy, "Cuimhnigķ ar Luimneach agus ar feall na Sasanaigh," translates to "Remember Limerick and the treachery of the English." After seeing the devastation caused by the Irish Brigade, the Duke of Cumberland reportedly remarked, "God curse the laws that made those men our enemies".
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I've decided to upload ranges for interest! I've heard people discussing these and I'm curious about them as well too, although tbh they make me more confused about their methodology.
Insights are welcome ofc =) I am open to different perspectives.
Some thoughts:
I find it slightly amusing that Scotland is assigned at the highest amount but not any other groups, even though the lower end of the Scotland range is way more genealogically accurate for me.
Eastern Europe and Russia is around what I would expect, although I'm surprised it could be up to 35%.
The France range is interesting, I am happy they at least assigned France although I'm not sure how the range has 0% tbh with a French Canadian Grandparent that's impossible lol.
The England and Northwestern Europe % is around what I would expect but find the 0-35% interestingly large.
The Ireland range is not surprising, but the amount is still surprisingly low.
I'm a bit confused about the Sweden and Denmark showing up at all since I don't have recent ancestors from there, but it is probably acting as a proxy for something.
The Northern Italy range is very interesting as I am very surprised they would assign only 1% given a range of 0-9%, I'm a bit confused how it would get up to 9% though considering I don't have recent Italian ancestors I know of.
I also really wish they still included the trace results revealed by the hack as I think seeing the ranges for them would be interesting.
Also please no comments saying I don't know my ancestry or one of my grandparents isn't fully "X" or isn't "X" just because of these results......I don't have time for that bullshit. These tests aren't perfect, and 23andme isn't either, but I do think the results are somewhat good.
I am aware though that they often say some of these components are found in many places, and the maps are often quite broad for some categories. I am actually hoping more for new genetic groups than drastic percentage changes in the update.
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Also I don't do classifications currently, sorry.
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If you aren't a subscriber to Ancestry makes sure you screenshot all your extra ethnicity features NOW including the parental inheritance, chromosome painting, match parental split, and others too because who knows what else they are going to paywall soon, these features are going to be paywalled to members only! I would also recommend saving the hack info as it seems likely they'll remove it once non-members lose access to the chromosome painting and inheritance. I'm so mad I spent the 100$ bucks on this test only to have them take away a bunch of originally advertised features. They aren't even really good enough to be behind a paywall loland to lose basic features and functionality ugh! And before an update! Many non-US accounts seem to still have access to the features for now. I will not be recommending this test and I'm not sure if I even trust anything from them anymore tbh. I'm too mad to discuss AncestryDNA for now so I'm gonna close this thread for a bit, but I'll open it again in the future. If you're really curious about discussing this you can PM me.
I am well aware that no DNA company is perfect. I just found AncestryDNA's recent moves to be really shady. I am really concerned about what they will do next. I really hope they eventually work on fixing their website ugh. If you want to know more about what happened go to the AncestryDNA subreddit.
I am still hoping that the 2023 update brings some good despite all this.
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Also I don't do classifications currently, sorry.
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I will reopen this since the update is coming, I will post my updated results when they come but I am still pretty mad at Ancestry so I am not super hyped. I am hoping that the accuracy at least moves in the right direction and that It's not a weak update. But I'm really hoping more for them to improve their Genetic Communities algorithm rather than the ethnicity update because it is absolutely ridiculous that they can't identify any recent European ancestry on the test when other platforms can considering the size of the database they have.
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Also I don't do classifications currently, sorry.
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