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  1. 11-01-2023, 09:11 PM #11
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    What does this mean? Lol

    Target: Vessna_scaled
    Distance: 6.1786% / 0.06178593
    55.0 European_Mesolithic
    45.0 West_Asian_Neolithic


    Target: Vessna_Husband_scaled
    Distance: 5.0364% / 0.05036404
    58.6 European_Mesolithic
    41.4 West_Asian_Neolithic
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    Target: Danjojo
    Distance: 4.3676% / 0.04367638
    51.0 West_Asian_Neolithic
    49.0 European_Mesolithic
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    Target: Defcon2_scaled
    Distance: 4.4469% / 0.04446866
    67.2 West_Asian_Neolithic
    32.8 European_Mesolithic

    Adding these samples:

    Code:
    North_Africa_Neolithic:Morocco_EN.SG,-0.1735805,0.092413,-0.026398,-0.082365,0.030621,-0.0602405,-0.0794335,0.020538,0.1517565,0.005376,0.0208665,-0.025702,0.0747765,-0.045966,0.0671815,-0.0325505,0.013364,-0.05701,-0.149455,0.0322025,-0.0400545,-0.117223,0.0815285,-0.009519,0.0212555
North_Africa_Neolithic:Morocco_LN.SG,0.019919,0.1457285,-0.00264,-0.0931855,0.0401615,-0.0474115,-0.0217385,0.004615,0.081094,0.0359005,0.006739,0.013188,0.014123,-0.018717,0.0007465,-0.0017235,0.0158415,-0.0064615,-0.0331215,0.0190715,-0.0101695,-0.023123,0.008196,-0.010664,0.0001795
    Target: Defcon2_scaled
    Distance: 4.1744% / 0.04174387
    63.2 West_Asian_Neolithic
    32.6 European_Mesolithic
    4.2 North_Africa_Neolithic
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    Target: me_scaled
    Distance: 3.2000% / 0.03199957
    75.0 West_Asian_Neolithic
    25.0 European_Mesolithic


    Target: me_scaled
    Distance: 3.2000% / 0.03199957
    60.4 West_Asian_Neolithic:TUR_Barcin_N:I1096
    22.8 European_Mesolithic:UKR_Meso_Vasilevka-I:NEO501__BC_8672
    8.6 West_Asian_Neolithic:IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N:I1945
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    Quote Originally Posted by Defcon2 View Post
    Target: Defcon2_scaled
    Distance: 4.4469% / 0.04446866
    67.2 West_Asian_Neolithic
    32.8 European_Mesolithic

    Adding these samples:

    Code:
    North_Africa_Neolithic:Morocco_EN.SG,-0.1735805,0.092413,-0.026398,-0.082365,0.030621,-0.0602405,-0.0794335,0.020538,0.1517565,0.005376,0.0208665,-0.025702,0.0747765,-0.045966,0.0671815,-0.0325505,0.013364,-0.05701,-0.149455,0.0322025,-0.0400545,-0.117223,0.0815285,-0.009519,0.0212555
North_Africa_Neolithic:Morocco_LN.SG,0.019919,0.1457285,-0.00264,-0.0931855,0.0401615,-0.0474115,-0.0217385,0.004615,0.081094,0.0359005,0.006739,0.013188,0.014123,-0.018717,0.0007465,-0.0017235,0.0158415,-0.0064615,-0.0331215,0.0190715,-0.0101695,-0.023123,0.008196,-0.010664,0.0001795
    Target: Defcon2_scaled
    Distance: 4.1744% / 0.04174387
    63.2 West_Asian_Neolithic
    32.6 European_Mesolithic
    4.2 North_Africa_Neolithic
    If you add these ones to the model:

    Code:
    MAR_Taforalt:TAF009,-0.162767,0.07718,-0.024513,-0.079135,0.009848,-0.047969,-0.052877,0.020538,0.13294,0.002005,0.025333,-0.026676,0.057978,-0.052985,0.072882,-0.034076,0.002347,-0.05625,-0.130475,0.04152,-0.026204,-0.120314,0.067909,-0.016508,0.012334
MAR_Taforalt:TAF010,-0.193499,0.083273,-0.03017,-0.088502,0.034776,-0.055499,-0.076378,0.019384,0.163619,0.008565,0.02111,-0.030573,0.07879,-0.046104,0.077496,-0.046141,-0.00665,-0.069805,-0.144176,0.036518,-0.042924,-0.129217,0.07629,-0.015303,0.018322
MAR_Taforalt:TAF011,-0.194638,0.085304,-0.021873,-0.088825,0.026774,-0.059961,-0.072148,0.019845,0.161165,0.002551,0.016564,-0.035818,0.080574,-0.051196,0.066367,-0.037523,0.012126,-0.071199,-0.14493,0.035767,-0.041427,-0.12662,0.068279,-0.011447,0.018441
MAR_Taforalt:TAF013,-0.196914,0.082258,-0.026398,-0.088502,0.032314,-0.057173,-0.074733,0.017768,0.156665,0.002369,0.02111,-0.036717,0.077898,-0.052159,0.072746,-0.038584,0.000913,-0.069552,-0.141285,0.039894,-0.035687,-0.125384,0.075428,-0.011206,0.020477
MAR_Taforalt:TAF014,-0.201467,0.079211,-0.018479,-0.083011,0.034468,-0.055499,-0.076848,0.014538,0.162596,0.002005,0.020461,-0.029374,0.078344,-0.054223,0.066503,-0.025192,0.017602,-0.063724,-0.151215,0.04127,-0.042176,-0.126126,0.077153,-0.014339,0.012693
    You will see that those Moroccan Neolithic references are modelled as:

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    So Early Neolithic Moroccan reference is quite similar to Moroccan mesolithic ones and late Moroccan Neolithic reference is mostly composed of Western Asian Neolithic+European Mesolithic so better directly use Mar Taforalt or just Early North African Neolithic one.

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  6. 11-01-2023, 10:40 PM #16
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    Target: Gallop_scaled
    Distance: 3.5061% / 0.03506072
    64.6 West_Asian_Neolithic
    35.4 European_Mesolithic

    Target: Father_scaled
    Distance: 3.3490% / 0.03348964
    65.0 West_Asian_Neolithic
    35.0 European_Mesolithic

    Target: brother_scaled
    Distance: 3.1192% / 0.03119196
    67.4 West_Asian_Neolithic
    32.6 European_Mesolithic
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    Target: paradox_scaled
    Distance: 2.9589% / 0.02958919
    74.8 West_Asian_Neolithic
    25.2 European_Mesolithic

    Target: Father_scaled
    Distance: 3.8011% / 0.03801060
    66.4 West_Asian_Neolithic
    33.6 European_Mesolithic
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    Target: true_southron_scaled
    Distance: 2.7991% / 0.02799091
    72.2 West_Asian_Neolithic
    27.8 European_Mesolithic

    Target: true_southron_scaled
    Distance: 2.7990% / 0.02798969
    27.0 West_Asian_Neolithic:TUR_Barcin_N:I1096
    13.6 West_Asian_Neolithic:TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N:Tep003
    12.8 West_Asian_Neolithic:TUR_Barcin_N:I1101
    11.4 European_Mesolithic:UKR_Meso_Voloshskoe:NEO527__BC _8974
    9.4 European_Mesolithic:RUS_Meso_Minino:NEO537__BC_610 2
    8.6 West_Asian_Neolithic:IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N:I1954
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    5.4 West_Asian_Neolithic:TUR_Barcin_N:I0726
    2.6 West_Asian_Neolithic:TUR_Catalhoyuk_N_Ceramic:CCH3 11
    2.2 West_Asian_Neolithic:TUR_Kumtepe_N_low_res:kum4

    45.3% from Barcin alone? Are these Barcin people some kind of early Neolithic Balkan people?

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    Distance to: CDG_scaled
    0.17276322 European_Mesolithic:UKR_Meso_Vasilevka-I:NEO494__BC_8791
    0.18605108 European_Mesolithic:UKR_Meso_Vasilevka-I:NEO501__BC_8672
    0.18685523 West_Asian_Neolithic:TUR_Boncuklu_N:ZHAJ_BON034
    0.19015293 West_Asian_Neolithic:TUR_Boncuklu_N:ZHJ_BON024
    0.19290665 West_Asian_Neolithic:TUR_Kumtepe_N:kum6
    0.19340968 West_Asian_Neolithic:TUR_Kumtepe_N_low_res:kum4
    0.19376822 West_Asian_Neolithic:TUR_Boncuklu_N:ZMOJ_BON014
    0.19461820 West_Asian_Neolithic:TUR_Boncuklu_N:ZHAG_BON004
    0.19643049 West_Asian_Neolithic:TUR_Boncuklu_N:ZKO_BON001
    0.20127159 West_Asian_Neolithic:TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N:Tep003
    0.20904578 European_Mesolithic:UKR_Meso_Vasilevka-I:NEO497__BC_8705
    0.21013588 West_Asian_Neolithic:TUR_Barcin_N:I1098
    0.21117963 West_Asian_Neolithic:TUR_Barcin_N:I0746
    0.21197305 West_Asian_Neolithic:TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N:Tep002
    0.21275504 West_Asian_Neolithic:TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N:Tep006
    0.21301791 West_Asian_Neolithic:TUR_Barcin_N:I1102
    0.21309051 West_Asian_Neolithic:TUR_Barcin_N:I0736
    0.21317815 West_Asian_Neolithic:TUR_Barcin_N:I1101
    0.21331800 European_Mesolithic:UKR_Meso_Vasilevka-I:NEO492__BC_8705
    0.21343585 West_Asian_Neolithic:TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N:Tep004
    0.21392845 West_Asian_Neolithic:TUR_Barcin_N:I0745
    0.21422522 West_Asian_Neolithic:TUR_Barcin_N:I0724
    0.21426491 West_Asian_Neolithic:TUR_Barcin_N:I1100
    0.21499005 European_Mesolithic:RUS_Meso_Minino:NEO537__BC_610 2
    0.21575145 West_Asian_Neolithic:TUR_Barcin_N:I1103

    Target: CDG_scaled
    Distance: 5.7864% / 0.05786396
    52.6 European_Mesolithic
    47.4 West_Asian_Neolithic

    Target: CDG_scaled
    Distance: 5.7864% / 0.05786396
    28.8 West_Asian_Neolithic:TUR_Barcin_N:I0726
    22.2 European_Mesolithic:UKR_Meso_Vasilevka-I:NEO497__BC_8705
    21.2 European_Mesolithic:UKR_Meso_Vasilevka-I:NEO501__BC_8672
    17.8 West_Asian_Neolithic:TUR_Catalhoyuk_N_Ceramic:CCH3 11
    9.2 European_Mesolithic:RUS_Meso_Minino:NEO537__BC_610 2
    0.8 West_Asian_Neolithic:IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N:I1945
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    Target: Brandon_scaled
    Distance: 5.6363% / 0.05636320
    50.2 European_Mesolithic
    49.8 West_Asian_Neolithic

    Target: Brandon_scaled
    Distance: 5.6363% / 0.05636320
    28.6 European_Mesolithic:UKR_Meso_Vasilevka-I:NEO497__BC_8705
    26.4 West_Asian_Neolithic:TUR_Barcin_N:I0726
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    14.2 West_Asian_Neolithic:TUR_Catalhoyuk_N_Ceramic:CCH3 11
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    2.0 West_Asian_Neolithic:TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N:Tep006
    1.4 European_MesolithicEU_Meso_TGM:TGM009.A0101

    Distance to: Brandon_scaled
    0.17671432 European_Mesolithic:UKR_Meso_Vasilevka-I:NEO494__BC_8791
    0.18216924 West_Asian_Neolithic:TUR_Boncuklu_N:ZHAJ_BON034
    0.18373023 West_Asian_Neolithic:TUR_Boncuklu_N:ZHJ_BON024
    0.18752761 West_Asian_Neolithic:TUR_Boncuklu_N:ZMOJ_BON014
    0.18802382 West_Asian_Neolithic:TUR_Kumtepe_N:kum6
    0.18918781 European_Mesolithic:UKR_Meso_Vasilevka-I:NEO501__BC_8672
    0.19001617 West_Asian_Neolithic:TUR_Boncuklu_N:ZKO_BON001
    0.19074683 West_Asian_Neolithic:TUR_Boncuklu_N:ZHAG_BON004
    0.19175910 West_Asian_Neolithic:TUR_Kumtepe_N_low_res:kum4
    0.19540611 West_Asian_Neolithic:TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N:Tep003
    0.20546121 West_Asian_Neolithic:TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N:Tep002
    0.20546358 West_Asian_Neolithic:TUR_Barcin_N:I1098
    0.20605401 West_Asian_Neolithic:TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N:Tep006
    0.20645879 West_Asian_Neolithic:TUR_Barcin_N:I1102
    0.20797975 West_Asian_Neolithic:TUR_Barcin_N:I0736
    0.20829909 West_Asian_Neolithic:TUR_Barcin_N:I0746
    0.20878582 West_Asian_Neolithic:TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N:Tep004
    0.20924366 West_Asian_Neolithic:TUR_Barcin_N:I1100
    0.20993592 West_Asian_Neolithic:TUR_Barcin_N:I1101
    0.20995518 West_Asian_Neolithic:TUR_Barcin_N:I1103
    0.21023845 West_Asian_Neolithic:TUR_Barcin_N:I0724
    0.21081017 West_Asian_Neolithic:TUR_Barcin_N:I0745
    0.21155524 West_Asian_Neolithic:TUR_Barcin_N:I1099
    0.21187497 European_Mesolithic:UKR_Meso_Vasilevka-I:NEO497__BC_8705
    0.21287221 West_Asian_Neolithic:TUR_Barcin_N:I0708

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