Actual Importance of Haplogroups

[Abti]

Denying facts? What are your arguments? You have none.

Most haplogroup deniers are either clueless, women or hate their haplogroup for some reason

The fact is you are close to second cousins and share close to 2% with everyone in your haplogroup, share the same grandfathers.

The African and French R1b's I mentioned come from the same tribe or family which was patriarchal. I don’t know about your haplogroup but that’s the case here and even if it wasn’t patriarchal genetically they are very close to each other like cousins. You can’t deny that. Which brings me back to my main point:

A French R1b is closer to an African-American R1b than to a Swedish I1. Your country has like 9 haplogroups so of course you’re denying since you don’t want to break the fragile Turkish nationalistic identity which is recent and has no weight .

Am I, a Cushite J2, closer to a Nakh J2 than a Cushite E-M78?

My Y-DNA & Nakh Y-DNA

Cushite E-M78

Clearly I’m closer to Nakh peoples in paternal ancestry. But how did that happen? Why so rare?

[mashail]

Am I, a Cushite J2, closer to a Nakh J2 than a Cushite E-M78?

My Y-DNA & Nakh Y-DNA

Cushite E-M78

Clearly I’m closer to Nakh peoples in paternal ancestry. But how did that happen? Why so rare?

what ik for sure that j2 isn't African its native middle eastern haplogroup very common among levantines\kurds\assyrians\jewish\persians\ even in arabia it is the largest haplogroup after j1.

[Touijer]

Just because something is less spread doesn’t mean it’s good. Quality over quantity. When I talk about which haplogroup is best I talk about who subjectively fits for me as a partner to breed with.
Of course Y-haplogroups only carry an insignificant amount of DNA but they are still very special because the Y-chromosome is very special. Unlike the other chromosomes it doesn’t recombine much during the meiosis and therefore haplogroups can be traced back many generations. I think reproduction is one of the ultimative goals of life and keeping your bloodline alive. So as a woman you have to choose your partner’s haplogroup wisely. While the autosomal dna can be washed out after just a couple of generations, the Y-DNA can linger for very long. That’s how Finnish people share their haplogroup N with northern Asians while their autosomal DNA is almost fully European. Because those N-males married white women for generations but yet.. their Y chromosome remains

So I want to give my bloodline a meaningful haplogroup and I think that R1a, R1b and N can’t really satisfy it.

i remove my compliment, I don’t agree with anything you say

[Kess]

Denying facts? What are your arguments? You have none.

Most haplogroup deniers are either clueless, women or hate their haplogroup for some reason

The fact is you are close to second cousins and share close to 2% with everyone in your haplogroup, share the same grandfathers.

The African and French R1b's I mentioned come from the same tribe or family which was patriarchal. I don’t know about your haplogroup but that’s the case here and even if it wasn’t patriarchal genetically they are very close to each other like cousins. You can’t deny that. Which brings me back to my main point:

A French R1b is closer to an African-American R1b than to a Swedish I1. Your country has like 9 haplogroups so of course you’re denying since you don’t want to break the fragile Turkish nationalistic identity which is recent and has no weight .

Haplogroups themselves don't make up a percentage of your genes, but they provide insights into the genetic variations and ancestry of specific lineages. Your %2 seems bs.

My haplogroup is probably J2. Nevertheless, I need to wait at least two months to actually find out that. Abti can confirm that we will never consider ourselves as cousins and we are not.

[Abti]

what ik for sure that j2 isn't African its native middle eastern haplogroup very common among levantines\kurds\assyrians\jewish\persians\ even in arabia it is the largest haplogroup after j1.

I wouldn’t call a frequency between 10 & 20% J2 common for most of those ethnic groups besides native Levantine peoples who get 35% or more in J2. J-M172 has a deep affinity for the Transcaucasian sphere.

[Abti]

Haplogroups themselves don't make up a percentage of your genes, but they provide insights into the genetic variations and ancestry of specific lineages. Your %2 seems bs.

My haplogroup is probably J2. Nevertheless, I need to wait at least two months to actually find out that. Abti can confirm that we will never consider ourselves as cousins and we are not.

You give me R1a vibes just like your friend Demarkazik.

[Touijer]

Your %2 seems bs.

So from the 3 categories I previously brought up, you fit in the clueless category.

Y Chromosome is 2% of your entire genome, and you share all of it with your father, the same mutations the same chromosome, the same chromosome which has no junk dna.

And if you turn out J2, depending on the subclade and number of mutations I’m happy to tell you that, you will indeed be cousins with Abti and he’ll be closest genetically to you than 70% of your fellow countryman. You’re grandfather will be the same as Abti’s grandfather while sharing around 1.9% genetically making you cousins.

[Kess]

You give me R1a vibes just like your friend Demarkazik.

People from my hometown turned out to be predominantly J2. We will see about that anyway. There is nothing certain. R1a-z93 is also possible for me. Demirkazık have slavic R1a. His tree is full of Russians. He is a Balkan (Bulgaria) Turk.

[Abti]

People from my hometown turned out to be predominantly J2. We will see about that anyway. There is nothing certain. R1a-z93 is also possible for me. Demirkazık have slavic R1a. His tree is full of Russians. He is a Balkan (Bulgaria) Turk.

Where did you get tested? Have you taken any autosomal tests?

[Kess]

Where did you get tested? Have you taken any autosomal tests?

I am waiting for my FTDNA (Family Finder) kit to arrive. Currently it's being inspected at customs.