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    Quote Originally Posted by Ugo View Post
    The Northern European haplogroup. You have to find a man with an Arabic harlogroup - G, J
    G is Caucasian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kessaras View Post
    G is Caucasian.
    I would call J actual Caucasian haplogroup by origin, and G Anatolian.

    E is actual Afrosemitic haplogroup by origin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scarface F View Post
    I would call J actual Caucasian haplogroup by origin, and G Anatolian.

    E is actual Afrosemitic haplogroup by origin.
    G is West Asian for sure but J originated in Middle East.

    “Haplogroup J originated approximately 42.6 kya (95% CI: 30.0–64.7), with several of its earliest branches being found within the Arabian Peninsula and Northern Africa. J1b was found most frequently in the Near East and Arabian Peninsula, while J1c occurred most frequently in Europe.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ugo View Post
    The Northern European haplogroup. You have to find a man with an Arabic harlogroup - G, J
    I can also go for I2, common in Southern Poland, Ukraine and northern Balkans. My first boyfriend was Western Ukrainian (Carpatho Rusyn) and I2 and they are a real powerhouse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kessaras View Post
    G is West Asian for sure but J originated in Middle East.

    “Haplogroup J originated approximately 42.6 kya (95% CI: 30.0–64.7), with several of its earliest branches being found within the Arabian Peninsula and Northern Africa. J1b was found most frequently in the Near East and Arabian Peninsula, while J1c occurred most frequently in Europe.”
    Well from what I read both J1 and J2 spread south from Caucasus togheder with CHG admixture. Maybe oldest J is middle eastern/Mesopotamian but as far as I am aware those J1s and J2s came from Caucasus. They are just very common in modern middle east.

    Modern Arabs have significant CHG admixture btw.

    E on the other hand is less common in modern MENA but should be original Afro-Asiatic marker. It emigrated to Africa from near East.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abti View Post
    Italians, Jews (despite what they say), Armenians & Greeks are clearly predominantly R1b not J. Come on now. I have like 30 sources.



    Nonsense. Nowadays Italians, Jews, Armenians and Greeks who carry happlogroup J2 are true Italians, Jews, Armenians and Greeks. R1b together with R1a are steppe invaders. Their percentage maybe not significant compared to R1b, but the truth still remains. Mediterranean and Middle Eastern civilisations Phoenicians, Hattians, Etruscans, Minoans, Hurrians, and ancient Israelites were J2. It really makes sense. So were Romans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katarzyna View Post
    I can also go for I2, common in Southern Poland, Ukraine and northern Balkans. My first boyfriend was Western Ukrainian (Carpatho Rusyn) and I2 and they are a real powerhouse.
    Aren't you paternally I2 too? Than you would stay in your tribe

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    Quote Originally Posted by black hole View Post
    Nonsense. Nowadays Italians, Jews, Armenians and Greeks who carry happlogroup J2 are true Italians, Jews, Armenians and Greeks. R1b are steppe invaders. Their percentage maybe not significant compared to R1b, but the truth still remains. Mediterranean and Middle Eastern civilisations Phoenicians, Hattians, Etruscans, Minoans, Hurrians, and ancient Israelites were J2. It really makes sense. So were Romans.
    Proto-Italics and proto-Armenians or people who carried Greek language were all R1b.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kessaras View Post
    G is West Asian for sure but J originated in Middle East.

    “Haplogroup J originated approximately 42.6 kya (95% CI: 30.0–64.7), with several of its earliest branches being found within the Arabian Peninsula and Northern Africa. J1b was found most frequently in the Near East and Arabian Peninsula, while J1c occurred most frequently in Europe.”

    The date of when this was published?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scarface F View Post
    Aren't you paternally I2 too? Than you would stay in your tribe
    Yes, I am. So me and my Ukrainian ex were both I2 and both Slavs. Nice match

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