*UPDATED* G25 Modeling with TA members

[sacha]

Anglecynn_partner coordinates are off.

British_Isles:British:Anglecynn_partner(British),0.141141,0.126941,0.060339,0.050065,0.0437,0.07012,0.012926,0.001846,0.006136,0.002187,-0.001949,0.012139,-0.013082,-0.017891,0.021037,0.016309,0.004303,0.004434,0.013324,0.005378,0.009982,0.001731,0.000616,0.020003,-0.000958

Here is the version I have:

Anglecynn_girlfriend_scaled,0.141141,0.126941,0.060339,0.050065,0.0437,0.017012,0.012926,0.001846,0.006136,0.002187,-0.001949,0.012139,-0.013082,-0.017891,0.021037,0.016309,0.004303,0.004434,0.013324,0.005378,0.009982,0.001731,0.000616,0.020003,-0.000958

Ariel90's coordinates are also different from the ones I have.

Italian:Ariel90(Italian),0.110408,0.156392,0.005657,-0.036176,0.029236,-0.015618,0.0047,-0.003,0.008385,0.02278,-0.000974,0.003147,-0.012933,-0.004404,-0.008415,0.004641,-0.003129,0.004307,0.004399,0.008379,-0.002995,0.001607,0.002835,0.003976,-0.002754

My version:

Ariel90_scaled,0.118376,0.153345,0.025644,-0.01938,0.032006,-0.005299,0.00752,0.006,0.005113,0.018588,-0.00341,0.000749,-0.019326,-0.003303,-0.0038,0.010209,0.000782,-0.00076,0.008925,0.002876,0.007736,-0.000495,0.005053,0.004338,0.003113

Africanwidow/Wâldpykjong/Redmar's coordinates are strange, they seem modified or altered and have very high distances...

Germany&Netherlands:Dutch:Africanwidow(Frisian),0.12801,0.130001,0.076922,0.065769,0.044624,0.05012,0.00997,0.009846,0.005218,0.010387,-0.008931,-0.004096,-3.25e-05,-0.006817,0.032216,0.00916,-0.010791,-0.00262,0.001383,0.007878,0.00961,0.008285,0.001725,0.016388,-0.000748

I have coordinates very similar to these, but different.

British_Isles:British:Aroon1916(Irish/English),0.134311,0.132019,0.067127,0.045866,0.035391,0.021196,0.00188,0.004384,0.002863,0.002916,0.005034,0.004346,-0.009812,-0.002477,0.016694,0.001458,-0.009388,0.001014,0.000377,0.004502,-0.000873,-0.002844,-0.001602,0.013737,-0.003712
Iberoamerican::Alejandromb92(Venezuelan),0.102441,0.14319,0.031301,-0.011305,0.034776,0.004183,0.00188,0.004615,0.021475,0.021322,0.000162,0.002398,-0.005352,-0.015001,0.000271,0.011668,0.015776,-0.000507,-0.010684,0.005378,-0.005116,-0.000989,-0.003204,-0.003374,0.003592
Italian:Sardinian:MotherDududud_scaled,0.125205,0.15436,0.035826,-0.020995,0.045547,-0.01255,0.00141,0.003461,0.01268,0.039545,-0.005684,0.01124,-0.017245,-0.010184,-0.00855,-0.011005,-0.012256,-0.001647,0.00817,-0.020885,-0.006738,0.002226,-0.001479,-0.007953,0.004431
Mallorcan_Beowulf_Scaled,0.1228117,0.1448503,0.0410504,0.0085708,0.0394156,0.0030563,0.0041533,0.004854,0.0126114,0.0245238,-0.0086741,0.0019535,-0.012332,-0.0083297,0.0067736,0.0013258,0.0047512,-0.0055111,-0.0010575,-0.001801,0.0007706,0.0004732,0.0005798,0.0033846,0.0002742

Which of the two versions is the correct one?

Aroon1916_scaled,0.134311,0.132019,0.067127,0.045866,0.035391,0.021196,0.00188,0.004384,0.002863,0.002916,-0.005034,0.004346,-0.009812,-0.002477,0.016694,0.001458,-0.009388,0.001014,0.000377,0.004502,-0.000873,-0.002844,-0.001602,0.013737,-0.003712
alejandromb92_scaled,0.100164,0.144205,0.031301,-0.011951,0.03139,0.00251,0.000705,0.006231,0.022907,0.019135,-0.001624,0.003447,-0.009366,-0.012937,-0.0019,0.006629,0.014864,-0.001394,-0.009804,0.007504,-0.002246,-0.003957,0.00037,-0.003253,0.003473
Flashball_mother_scaled,0.125205,0.147252,0.040729,-0.015504,0.048009,-0.008367,0.00282,0.001846,0.01084,0.038634,-0.000812,0.008243,-0.017839,-0.008257,-0.003393,-0.008884,-0.011213,0.001267,0.003897,-0.014632,-0.006364,-0.003215,-0.003697,-0.000602,0.002874
Beowulf_scaled,0.106776,0.147483,0.03573,0.001868,0.039686,-0.003002,-0.001673,0.001274,0.026665,0.027145,-0.004281,0.002951,-0.003347,-0.014144,0.013599,-0.00845,-0.018638,0.003618,0.001491,-0.001177,-0.001298,-0.005875,0.004398,-0.008598,-0.006883

I don't know many of these users, they are just from the sheet. But Beowulf's (version on the sheet) is the one he provided, he has also sent it to me before. I'm not sure why Flashball_mother_scaled is in your second version but not the first.

Anglecynn_partner looks to have had a '1' stripped from it

I will fix this; there was an issue where in one of the original sheets, there were random space in the coordinates (0.017012 became like 0.0 7012, then as I was processing it that got turned into 0.07012).

Your Aroon1916_scaled looks just like mine, except for a negative sign in one of the coordinates:

The distance is miniscule. I don't know this user, so I can't tell. However, considering the 11th position is negative on both the Scottish and English coordinates, and his own parents', I will make it so on his.

No idea what is going on with Alejandromb92, I'll remove him for now.


Don't know about the AfricanWidow either, I will delete for now. If any of these people appear and want to be added back, I'm fine with that, but I would like to try to be as accurate as possible (I am purging stuff like sims when I see them as well).
Distance to: Germany&Netherlands:Dutch:Africanwidow(Frisian)
0.03814985 Icelandic
0.04239479 Swedish
0.04246373 Norwegian
0.04388315 Danish
0.04741698 Irish
0.04841796 Scottish
0.04878197 Orcadian
0.05048697 Dutch
0.05065087 English
0.05071956 Shetlandic
0.05079487 German_Hamburg
0.05165984 English_Cornwall
0.05201902 Welsh
0.05649131 French_Brittany
0.05881732 German
0.05969618 Afrikaner
0.06240062 German_East
0.06295828 Czech
0.06364905 German_Erlangen
0.06375106 BelgianA
0.06721026 French_Pas-de-Calais
0.06865897 French_Seine-Maritime
0.06915538 Polish_Kashubian
0.06942616 BelgianB
0.07066339 Austrian

[sacha]

This guy is part Italian - at least 1/4 with large chunk of ancestry coming from Lazio iirc

Banished to Muttland

[sacha]

Me
LevantineewslothMom(Lebanese)
0.02738844 Greek:Andrewid(Greek)
0.03014412 Greek:antpet(Cypriot_Greek)
0.03232348 Levantine:Abdelnour(Lebanese)
0.03233318 Jewish:talombo(Jewish)
0.03889132 Jewish:eolien(Sephardi)
0.04132843 Jewish:Seabass_Mum(Jewish)
0.04453475 Levantine:Sacha(Syria)_scaled
0.04705193 MENA:happycow(Arab)
0.04984992 Italian:Black_Wolf_grandfather(South_Italian)
0.05140598 Jewish:jonahst(Ashkenazi_Jew)
0.05509422 Jewish:MilkanerDad_scaled(Ashkenazi)
0.05722088 Jewish:Agamemnon_Dad(Jewish)
0.05889290 Greekanos_father(PonticGreek)
0.06049958 Jewish:SUPREEEEEME(Ashkenazi)
0.06066503 MENA:Aren(Assyrian)
0.06317187 Jewish:Erikl86(Jewish)
0.06609257 Greek:kingmob_scaled
0.06623666 Greekanos_mother(PonticGreek)
0.06675879 USA/Canadaewsloth(American)
0.06950654 Italian:crazyladybutterfly(South_Italian)
0.07026974 USA/Canada:Eihwaz(American)
0.07199506 MENA:Hadouken(Kurd)
0.07696735 Greek:Markos(Greek)
0.07914990 Italian:Ariel90(Italian)

East Med nation

[sacha]

A graph of the unlabeled (under 'Muttlandian'), USA/Canada & Iberoamericans, just out of curiosity— using gixajo's simplified world PCA for the regions

Edit - Fixed

[sacha]

I forgot West Asia one second

[sacha]

Anddd for everyone— some samples I didn't put on the sheet but included by request



Zoomed in on the meaty West Eurasia section

[JerryS.]

Full spread sheet.

Target: JerryS_scaled
Distance: 0.9470% / 0.00946980
60.0 British_Isles
12.8 USA/Canada
11.6 Germany&Netherlands
6.8 Greek
3.8 Northern_Slavs
2.0 French
1.8 MENA
1.2 Iberian

Removal of Mutt American/Canadian

Target: JerryS_scaled
Distance: 0.9664% / 0.00966404
63.4 British_Isles
21.4 Germany&Netherlands
6.2 Greek
5.4 French
1.8 MENA
1.2 Iberian
0.6 Northern_Slavs

Removing French

Target: JerryS_scaled
Distance: 0.9708% / 0.00970793
61.2 British_Isles
25.0 Germany&Netherlands
5.2 Greek
4.8 Iberian
1.4 MENA
1.2 FlashBallCombinedNebula(3/4French1/4Sard)
0.6 Balkanic
0.6 Northern_Slavs

Removing mixed individual source group

Target: JerryS_scaled
Distance: 0.9710% / 0.00971040
61.0 British_Isles
26.6 Germany&Netherlands
4.8 Greek
4.2 Iberian
1.8 Balkanic
1.6 MENA

Removing Iberian

Target: JerryS_scaled
Distance: 0.9744% / 0.00974371
62.0 British_Isles
27.2 Germany&Netherlands
4.4 Balkanic
4.0 Greek
2.4 MENA

Removing all Balkan (east, west)

Target: JerryS_scaled
Distance: 0.9807% / 0.00980743
67.0 British_Isles
22.0 Germany&Netherlands
8.8 Greek
2.2 MENA

Removing MENA

Target: JerryS_scaled
Distance: 1.0133% / 0.01013272
72.6 British_Isles
16.2 Germany&Netherlands
6.6 Greek
4.0 Jewish
0.6 Iberoamerican

Removing Iberoamerican

Target: JerryS_scaled
Distance: 1.0262% / 0.01026179
69.6 British_Isles
20.2 Germany&Netherlands
6.0 Jewish
4.2 Greek

Removing Jewish

Target: JerryS_scaled
Distance: 1.0593% / 0.01059318
72.8 British_Isles
16.4 Germany&Netherlands
5.6 Greek
5.2 Italian

Un-Aggregated

Target: JerryS_scaled
Distance: 1.0594% / 0.01059396
31.8 British_Isles:English:drb234(English)
20.0 British_Isles:Irish:Nqp15hhu_Dad(Northern_Irish)
19.6 British_Isles:British:Albannach(Scottish/Irish)
7.2 Germany&Netherlands: Dutch:Elske(Dutch_Frisian)
7.2 Germany&Netherlands: Dutch:Folcwalding(North_Dutch)
5.4 Italian:Black_Wolf_grandfather(South_Italian)
2.6 Greek:kingmob_scaled
2.6 Greek:Freeroostah(Greek)
1.8 British_Isles:English:Wolf-Deer_girlfriend(English)
1.8 Germany&Netherlands:rothaer_mat_gfather-in-law_scaled(W_Mecklenburg)



Target: JerryS_scaled
Distance: 1.0652% / 0.01065160 | R4P
75.2 British_Isles
13.2 Germany&Netherlands
11.6 Greek

Removing Greek

Target: JerryS_scaled
Distance: 1.0638% / 0.01063761
30.2 British_Isles:English:drb234(English)
20.0 British_Isles:British:Albannach(Scottish/Irish)
19.6 British_Isles:Irish:Nqp15hhu_Dad(Northern_Irish)
9.6 Italian:Black_Wolf_grandfather(South_Italian)
7.6 Germany&Netherlands: Dutch:Elske(Dutch_Frisian)
5.8 Germany&Netherlands: Dutch:Folcwalding(North_Dutch)
3.0 Germany&Netherlands:rothaer_mat_gfather-in-law_scaled(W_Mecklenburg)
2.6 British_Isles:English:Wolf-Deer_girlfriend(English)
1.4 Northern_Slavs: Polish: Peterski(Polish)
0.2 Italian:VidFlumina(North_Italian)

Target: JerryS_scaled
Distance: 1.0637% / 0.01063696 | R4P
72.0 British_Isles
16.8 Germany&Netherlands
9.8 Italian
1.4 Northern_Slavs

[noricum]

Target: G25noricum_scaled
Distance: 1.1473% / 0.01147262
54.4 Northern_Slavs
16.8 Germany&Netherlands
14.2 Italian
10.0 French
2.6 Iberian
1.0 British_Isles
1.0 South_Asian


Target: G25noricum_scaled
Distance: 1.1471% / 0.01147094
18.6 Northern_Slavsolisheterski(Polish)
12.8 Northern_Slavsolish:slowian_father(Polish)
10.6 Italian:Sardinian:MotherDududud_scaled
10.6 Northern_Slavsolish:Lukasz(Polish)
10.0 French:J.S.(French)
9.2 Germany&Netherlands:rothaer_distant_relative_EvaF_scaled(S outh_Harz)
8.6 Northern_Slavsolish:slowian(Polish)
8.4 Germany&Netherlands:rothaer_friend_HV_scaled(½Silesia½Uppe r_Saxony)
3.6 Northern_Slavs:Russian:kezavrik(Russian)
2.8 Iberian:Spanish:Empecinado(Spanish)
2.8 Italian:Vettor(North_Italian)
1.0 South_Asian:Amber29(Pakistan)
0.8 British_Isles:Irish:FionnSneachta(Irish)
0.2 South_Asian:Mingle_scaled(Pashtun)

Distance to: G25noricum_scaled
0.02243602 Germany&Netherlands:rothaer_friend_HV_scaled(½Silesia½Uppe r_Saxony)
0.02632535 West_Balkanh2ter(Croatian)
0.02713391 Germany&Netherlands:rothaer_distant_relative_EvaF_scaled(S outh_Harz)
0.02760811 Wend-Kruzek_scaled(Slovakia)
0.02777435 Germany&Netherlands:rothaer_sibling4_scaled(E_German)
0.02918525 CordedMother_scaled
0.02928063 West_Balkan:FeiichyFriend:Martin(Croat)
0.02989681 Germany&Netherlands:rothaer_sibling3_scaled(E_German)
0.03031387 Hungarian:Katalin(Hungarian)
0.03052292 West_Balkan:FeiichyFriend:Antula(Croat)
0.03248834 17571imre(Hungarian+Dutch)
0.03313003 West_Balkan:FeiichyFriend:Anka(Croat)
0.03431981 Hungarian:someonenotyou(Hungarian)
0.03437916 Kiel_scaled
0.03506694 Germany&Netherlands:German:rothaer_mother(East-German)
0.03528425 West_Balkan:Hrvoje(Croat)
0.03530136 Germany&Netherlands:rothaer_half_1C1R_ML_scaled(E_German)
0.03536009 West_Balkan:FeiichyFriend:Alma(Croat)
0.03542441 West_Balkan:FeiichyFriend:Nik(Croat)
0.03553098 Germany&Netherlands:German:rothaer_father(East-German)
0.03569827 CordedFather_scaled
0.03578496 USA/Canada:Mr.G_scaled(American)
0.03601292 West_Balkanh2ter_dad(Croatian)
0.03625271 Germany&Netherlands:German:CelticGerman(German)
0.03628818 Germany&Netherlands:German:rothaer_child2(East-German)

[sacha]

Averages sheet has been updated- I seperated some categories, and was able this time to add samples that some people did not want publically posted (they are also in the PCA). Poor Demirkazık is the only Turkish Turk that submitted, so Turkish has been removed as an average, though I've included an average of all the averages (which will not actually represent the TA population as it weights everything) called 'Averages+Demir_avg', as well as a normal average of everything. You can delete the last four lines if you don't want any mixed samples, keep them if you want to have fun. I won't post update posts as much when I have a system all the way down, but yeah xd

[sacha]

Also I accidentally replaced the main sheet, don't worry I will recover now