Peloponnesian Greeks on G25

**celticdragongod** · 03-08-2024, 11:11 PM

Originally Posted by axlredneck

Code:

Greek_Peloponnese_273,0.1164123,0.1451352,0.0048542,-0.0282264,0.0177366,-0.0101566,0.0025497,-0.0000896,0.0008144,0.0150649,0.0019992,0.0015289,-0.0023203,0.0065797,-0.0145151,-0.0028034,0.0058296,0.0008845,0.005487,-0.0048205,-0.0063268,0.0010567,0.0023201,0.0013625,-0.0014607
Anatolia_IA,0.110686425,0.153665548,-0.036461291,-0.069977865,-0.002017354,-0.022099064,0.002819975,-0.007241056,-0.005019794,0.023110696,0.002593565,0.005334367,-0.009020471,0.003631104,-0.015262778,-0.002218412,0.004077084,0.002452977,0.005743771,-0.008486962,-0.004373348,0.001648948,0.001791654,0.002205625,3.52781E-05
Hellenic_IA,0.1187011,0.1620494,-0.00598,-0.0614623,0.0252794,-0.0257376,-0.0023837,-0.0028021,0.0066326,0.0438149,0.004083,0.0099769,-0.0185401,-0.0035783,-0.0185743,-0.0092623,0.0119953,-0.000398,0.0077751,-0.008647,-0.0102497,0.005317,-0.0009156,0.0060247,-0.0047044
Slavic,0.1335795,0.1256713,0.0785118,0.0726852,0.0417696,0.0273161,0.0109293,0.0141522,-0.0033293,-0.0275854,-0.0027814,-0.0106753,0.0205677,0.0275312,-0.0139279,0.0000116,0.0046338,-0.0007303,0.0045973,0.0018452,-0.0052226,-0.0052704,0.0091508,-0.0058095,-0.0000094
Balkan_IA,0.1251104,0.1524141,0.0222186,-0.0208873,0.0278512,-0.0089709,-0.0009988,-0.0027885,0.003903,0.0311472,0.0025169,0.0074183,-0.0155226,-0.0051264,-0.0129839,-0.0032705,0.0063452,0.003336,0.0072695,-0.0080663,-0.0115837,0.004709,-0.0010063,0.0065771,-0.002355
Levant_IA,0.0851417,0.1468526,-0.0612024,-0.099726,-0.0130673,-0.0377401,-0.0049367,-0.0089084,0.0132454,0.0086219,0.0105161,-0.0096017,0.0216175,0.002489,-0.007509,0.0080062,-0.0023857,0.0027152,0.0024513,0.0048289,0.0044681,0.0057811,-0.0049596,-0.0008004,-0.0016992
Turkic,0.0811938,-0.053823,-0.0083593,-0.004845,-0.0412383,-0.0036255,0.0096353,0.0082688,-0.0133623,-0.0095067,-0.0060627,-0.0018233,0.0010902,-0.0070417,0.0041168,0.007646,-0.0036073,0.0019003,0.0005868,-0.0026055,-0.0072372,-0.0037095,-0.0040468,0.0001808,0.0027543
Berber,-0.0391015,0.1347667,-0.0189668,-0.0779,0.0188088,-0.0355667,-0.0216624,0.005864,0.0576878,0.0205605,0.0056455,-0.0122362,0.0263216,-0.009407,0.0124783,-0.0050072,-0.0056909,-0.0131682,-0.0303375,0.0115203,-0.0085143,-0.0241851,0.0149999,-4.95e-05,0.0005494
pre-Slavic,0.111250967,0.15553111,-0.019914021,-0.062948193,0.010695022,-0.023009332,-0.000431412,-0.00508616,0.002491572,0.030019489,0.003776396,0.005738113,-0.01015963,-0.000277875,-0.015068967,-0.003958347,0.006415288,0.001413683,0.005882419,-0.007126798,-0.006684551,0.003296512,0.000120999,0.00382112,-0.002033846

Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.08350665 Slavic
0.10526367 Balkan_IA
0.11781840 Greek_Peloponnese_273
0.15842435 Hellenic_IA
0.16214027 pre-Slavic
0.17751729 Anatolia_IA
0.22332574 Levant_IA
0.23497756 Turkic
0.25446810 Berber

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 5.8956% / 0.05895626
59.6 Slavic
40.2 Balkan_IA
0.2 Turkic

**celticdragongod** · 03-08-2024, 11:32 PM

Originally Posted by kingmob

Thank God for Anatolian admixture in Greece. Otherwise the country would be another balkanite failed state. Now it's only semi-failed.

Unfortunately, Anatolian ancestry does not seem to have benefited Turkey:

https://www.ig.com/us/news-and-trade...31-5000-240305

https://menafn.com/1107953759/Monito...l-Some-Way-Off

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/...igh-inflation/

https://www.capitalfm.co.ke/business...igh-inflation/

https://www.firstpost.com/opinion/va...-13746427.html

**DomitiusAurelian** · 03-08-2024, 11:54 PM

Originally Posted by kingmob

Thank God for Anatolian admixture in Greece. Otherwise the country would be another balkanite failed state. Now it's only semi-failed.

lmao

**Dušan** · 03-09-2024, 12:25 AM

Originally Posted by protos

Strange how you don't have Balkan_IA

I always get non-Slavic part as Greek-like, not Illyrian-like.

**~~kingmob~~** · 03-09-2024, 05:17 AM

Originally Posted by celticdragongod

Unfortunately, Anatolian ancestry does not seem to have benefited Turkey:

You are comparing Turkey to the average run of the mill balkanite tragedy?

You're not from around here, eh pardner?

**Dolofonos** · 03-09-2024, 06:32 AM

This is Sparta, motherfuckers!

Target: 300
Distance: 1.3139% / 0.01313926
51.6 Slavic
25.6 Greek_Peloponnese_273
17.0 Hellenic_IA
3.2 Turkic
2.6 Anatolia_IA

**Kenshiro** · 03-09-2024, 07:55 AM

Target: Kenshiro_scaled
Distance: 1.9719% / 0.01971933 | ADC: 0.25x RC
46.0 ALB_Cinamak_Anc
40.0 pre-Slavic
7.2 Slavic
6.8 Turkic

Target: Kenshiro_scaled
Distance: 1.9694% / 0.01969423
46.4 ALB_Cinamak_Anc
39.2 pre-Slavic
7.2 Slavic
6.6 Turkic
0.6 Berber

Target: Kenshiro_scaled
Distance: 1.8969% / 0.01896914 | ADC: 0.25x RC
57.8 ALB_Cinamak_Anc
29.2 Anatolia_IA
5.8 Turkic
5.4 Slavic
1.8 Berber

Target: Kenshiro_scaled
Distance: 1.8969% / 0.01896914
57.8 ALB_Cinamak_Anc
29.2 Anatolia_IA
5.8 Turkic
5.4 Slavic
1.8 Berber
With Anatolia IA and Without
And With Greek Peloponnesian
Target: Kenshiro_scaled
Distance: 1.9915% / 0.01991499 | ADC: 0.25x
44.6 Greek_Peloponnese_273
41.4 ALB_Cinamak_Anc
9.8 Anatolia_IA
4.2 Turkic

**~~kingmob~~** · 03-09-2024, 08:29 AM

Originally Posted by axlredneck

@axl

What is FST/Fixation Index?

Code:

> fst(prefix, pop1 = "Greece_BA_Mycenaean", pop2 = c("Greek.HO", "Turkish.HO", "Albanian.HO", "Bulgarian.HO", "Armenian.HO", "Georgian.HO", "Azeri.HO", "Armenian_Hemsheni.HO", "Syrian.HO", "Lebanese.HO", "Jordanian.HO", "Cypriot.HO", "Italian_South.HO" ))
ℹ Reading allele frequencies from packedancestrymap files...
ℹ v54.1.p1_HO_public.geno has 20503 samples and 597573 SNPs
ℹ Calculating allele frequencies from 205 samples in 14 populations
ℹ Expected size of allele frequency data: 134 MB
597k SNPs read...
✔ 597573 SNPs read in total
! 572134 SNPs remain after filtering. 469971 are polymorphic.
ℹ Allele frequency matrix for 572134 SNPs and 14 populations is 105 MB
ℹ Computing pairwise f2 for all SNPs and population pairs requires 2947 MB RAM without splitting
ℹ Computing without splitting since 2947 < 8000 (maxmem)...
ℹ Returning fst blocks
# A tibble: 13 × 4
   pop1                pop2                     est       se
                                        
 1 Greece_BA_Mycenaean Albanian.HO          0.00925 0.000624
 2 Greece_BA_Mycenaean Armenian.HO          0.0114  0.000526
 3 Greece_BA_Mycenaean Armenian_Hemsheni.HO 0.0153  0.000581
 4 Greece_BA_Mycenaean Azeri.HO             0.0152  0.000480
 5 Greece_BA_Mycenaean Bulgarian.HO         0.0100  0.000536
 6 Greece_BA_Mycenaean Cypriot.HO           0.0103  0.000572
 7 Greece_BA_Mycenaean Georgian.HO          0.0153  0.000485
 8 Greece_BA_Mycenaean Greek.HO             0.00915 0.000460
 9 Greece_BA_Mycenaean Italian_South.HO     0.00874 0.000743
10 Greece_BA_Mycenaean Jordanian.HO         0.0141  0.000553
11 Greece_BA_Mycenaean Lebanese.HO          0.0132  0.000569
12 Greece_BA_Mycenaean Syrian.HO            0.0154  0.000588
13 Greece_BA_Mycenaean Turkish.HO           0.0112  0.000423

It looks like most East Med and adjacent groups are fairly close to BA_Mycenaeans, even Turks, with Greeks, South Italians and Albanians being the closest, despite their Medieval Euro/Slavic input.

**Far_away** · 03-09-2024, 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by Dušan

I always get non-Slavic part as Greek-like, not Illyrian-like.

There is no Thracian sample in that calc

Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 1.7348% / 0.01734802
59.8 Slavic
38.2 BGR_KapitanAndreevo_IA
2.0 Turkic
0.0 Anatolia_IA
0.0 Hellenic_IA
0.0 Levant_IA
0.0 Berber
0.0 ALB_Cinamak_Anc
0.0 MKD_Anc

**Dušan** · 03-09-2024, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by Far_away

There is no Thracian sample in that calc

Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 1.7348% / 0.01734802
59.8 Slavic
38.2 BGR_KapitanAndreevo_IA
2.0 Turkic
0.0 Anatolia_IA
0.0 Hellenic_IA
0.0 Levant_IA
0.0 Berber
0.0 ALB_Cinamak_Anc
0.0 MKD_Anc

Thanks.
Very close distance with sample BGR_KapitanAndreevo_IA