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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulu View Post
    lol. Given that Albanians lack Scythian, how can that be the ancient component for Balkan? That clearly came with Slavs who settled there after the 6th century.

    p.s. I'd gladly suggest something but I am not familiar with the ancient samples and what else can you pick.
    Don't be afraid, you can propose another Balkan reference if you want, I don't know the ancient references well either, that's why I used the method I posted before, to fill that gap. You can imitate it, choose a sample that you think is suitable and we test it.

    I knew beforehand that this calculator was easily criticized, that is not what can bother me, what bothers me are the forms of your first post. Your joke seemed in bad taste, considering that you and I do not know each other at all and that the environment does not favor that we understand well the intention of things like the ones you said.


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    Target: Kenshiro_scaled
    Distance: 3.2922% / 0.03292239
    65.6 Italic
    12.0 Levantine
    11.8 Turkic:A
    10.6 Balkanic

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    Target: djipon_scaled
    Distance: 2.8700% / 0.02869955
    42.6 Italic
    31.8 Slavic
    10.2 Levantine
    9.6 Turkic
    3.4 Germanic
    2.4 Balkanic

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    Distance to: CDG_scaled
    0.02427956 Germanic
    0.05952105 Balkanic
    0.06508457 Slavic:B
    0.07478766 Slavic:A
    0.09143966 Italic
    0.16517264 Turkic:A
    0.24374081 Levantine
    0.24900873 Turkic:B

    Target: CDG_scaled
    Distance: 2.4237% / 0.02423731
    98.4 Germanic
    1.6 Italic

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixajo View Post
    They are hidden, because there are people who instead of doing the calculators, just criticize the components that give them results that they do not like.

    No calculator gives results that everyone likes, and if people avoid making calculators, because they will not like their results, there is no way of knowing how each component works when interacting with the other sources.

    I do not care exactly who gives more Turkish or Levantine, I just want to see how the references work, but since here people use the results only to project the image of themselves that they want to project to others, it is difficult for everyone comply with the rules that the OP proposes.

    The components are these:

    Code:
    Slavic:RUS_Sunghir_MA,0.129758,0.116786,0.070899,0.060078,0.041238,0.018965,0.009165,0.011307,0.001432,-0.017859,0.000487,-0.008093,0.014271,0.023809,-0.014658,-0.005834,0.00013,-0.002154,0.000628,-0.001251,-0.007986,-0.005812,0.012695,-0.010724,-0.005868
    Slavic:HUN_Avar_Szolad,0.133742,0.12948,0.073727,0.057494,0.0373915,0.029144,0.0094,0.007269,0.004295,-0.018224,-0.001543,-0.006369,0.0102575,0.017753,-0.0138435,0.0007295,0.0002605,0.0034205,0.0055305,0.001313,0,-0.002782,0.010846,-0.0069285,0.001736
    Balkanic:Scythian_HUN,0.1238396,0.1409554,0.0564928,0.0200906,0.0395148,0.0080878,0.001128,0.0070612,0.0097354,0.01108,-0.000195,-6e-05,0.0003566,0.001101,-0.007899,0.0036592,0.0052936,0.0019004,0.0029916,-0.0010502,-0.0036936,0.0001238,0.0003204,-0.0064104,-0.0055082
    Germanic:DEU_MA,0.1223596,0.1303939,0.061169,0.048773,0.039792,0.0199408,0.010975,0.0052151,0.0013295,-0.0024966,-0.003735,0.001109,-0.0091576,-0.0038398,0.0161643,-0.0008352,-0.0133511,0.0032684,0.0041354,0.0040271,0.0060019,0.0037342,-0.0007273,0.011146,-0.0004429
    Turkic:TUR_IA,0.08992,0.060932,-0.009428,-0.032946,-0.022158,-0.013945,0.003055,0.006,-0.020861,-0.004009,-0.003573,0.000749,0.012636,0.002615,-0.001357,-0.001724,0.006519,0.006208,0.004148,-0.002001,-0.004617,0.001978,-0.002835,0.00012,-0.002036
    Turkic:TUR_Ottoman,0.079107,-0.0741335,0.01829,-0.0075905,-0.043085,-0.0133865,0.0029375,0.000808,-0.010124,-0.012119,-0.00885,-0.0063695,-0.0057235,-0.0088075,0.0052255,0,0.007758,0.000887,-0.0018855,-0.000375,-0.0089845,-0.0004325,-0.0096135,-0.001747,0.0003595
    Italic:ITA_Proto-Villanovan,0.125205,0.138112,0.030547,-0.010982,0.023081,-0.011713,0.002115,-0.001846,0.006954,0.021139,0.008119,0.005845,-0.011596,-0.000826,-0.007465,-0.01432,-0.011604,0.005194,0.002765,-0.00988,-0.009733,0.001607,-0.002465,0.003976,-0.005508
    Levantine:Levant_JOR_EBA,0.0758823,0.147929,-0.0599623,-0.11402,-0.0056417,-0.0476903,-0.0108887,-0.013307,0.0336783,0.0075323,0.0157517,-0.0196823,0.041526,-0.0008717,-0.0031217,0.0228937,0.0018253,0.0010137,-0.0030583,0.0170917,0.0050743,0.011706,-0.0038617,0.0042577,-0.0071053
    Distance to: CDG_scaled
    0.02427956 GermanicEU_MA
    0.05952105 Balkanic:Scythian_HUN
    0.06508457 Slavic:HUN_Avar_Szolad
    0.07478766 Slavic:RUS_Sunghir_MA
    0.09143966 Italic:ITA_Proto-Villanovan
    0.16517264 Turkic:TUR_IA
    0.24374081 Levantine:Levant_JOR_EBA
    0.24900873 Turkic:TUR_Ottoman

    Target: CDG_scaled
    Distance: 2.4237% / 0.02423731
    98.4 GermanicEU_MA
    1.6 Italic:ITA_Proto-Villanovan

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    I don't know what to make of it. What comprises Balkan with this one?

    Target: JerryS_scaled
    Distance: 2.6896% / 0.02689558
    80.4 Germanic
    15.6 Balkanic
    2.0 Italic
    2.0 Levantine

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    Target: cass
    Distance: 1.3161% / 0.01316064
    61.0 Slavic
    33.8 Germanic
    5.2 Balkanic

    Target: cass
    Distance: 1.3219% / 0.01321919 | ADC: 0.25x
    62.6 Slavic
    33.4 Germanic
    4.0 Balkanic

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    Target: Dušan_scaled
    Distance: 2.3032% / 0.02303202
    52.4 Slavic
    47.4 Italic
    0.2 Levantine
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    Quote Originally Posted by JerryS. View Post
    I don't know what to make of it. What comprises Balkan with this one?



    Distance to: Balkanic:Scythian_HUN
    0.02589369 Austrian
    0.02932214 French_Alsace
    0.02958097 Montenegrin
    0.03042547 Croatian
    0.03093745 Serbian
    0.03150500 Slovenian
    0.03213569 German_Erlangen
    0.03248661 Hungarian
    0.03256459 French_Nord
    0.03294116 Bosnian
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    Quote Originally Posted by JerryS. View Post
    I don't know what to make of it. What comprises Balkan with this one?

    Target: JerryS_scaled
    Distance: 2.6896% / 0.02689558
    80.4 Germanic
    15.6 Balkanic
    2.0 Italic
    2.0 Levantine
    IMO simplification of the model

    Target: Spanish_Castile_and_Leon_Soria_(Castilian)
    Distance: 5.3374% / 0.05337394
    82.0 Balkanic
    15.8 Italic
    2.2 Levantine

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