Do you consider Bulgarians Slavic?

[Dušan]

Romanians genetically are closer to Italians than to most Slavs though, Bulgarians and North Macedonians by ancestry are heavily non Slavic, in addition they absorbed some Vlach ancestry (Aromanians/Vlachs in Bulgaria are not a recognized minority).

Only northeast Italian average is bit cloeser for Romanians than Bosnian and even Croatian, the other Italian averages are far away.

[Straightman]

I was speaking about Poles, Russians, Ukrainians, the most numerous Slavs. It's true that Romanians are not just Romans and Dacians, however genetic studies show we're closest to the Romanized local populations. We're closer even to Spaniards than to Poles or Russians.













Roman colonization in Romania was extensive and Roman legionnaires and settlers in Dacia were from all over the Empire, not just from bordering provinces. Dacia Felix was invested with Ius Italicum, being considered (through a legal fiction) as part of Italy itself.







Some South Slavic populations have virtually no Vlach ancestry, Slovenes and Croats are genetically closer to Czechs. Bosniaks are also overwhelmingly Slavic.

No, we are closer to Balkan populations like Bulgarians and Serbs. Croats have a lot of Illyrian/PaleoBalkan ancestry and Bosniaks even more so. I am sure Slovenes have some PaleoBalkan and Celtic ancestry too. You obviously have a lot invested emotionally into the idea of having 'real Latin blood', but Romanians don't seem to have much of that and neither do most Iberians and French either. Non-Italian Latins are mostly Romanized natives.

[ioas12]

No, we are closer to Balkan populations like Bulgarians and Serbs. Croats have a lot of Illyrian/PaleoBalkan ancestry and Bosniaks even more so. I am sure Slovenes have some PaleoBalkan and Celtic ancestry too. You obviously have a lot invested emotionally into the idea of having 'real Latin blood', but Romanians don't seem to have much of that and neither do most Iberians and French either. Non-Italian Latins are mostly Romanized natives.

Bosnians have the most Slavic dna in the balkans so I doubt they have morepaleo Balkan dna then Croats

[Tommie]

No, we are closer to Balkan populations like Bulgarians and Serbs. Croats have a lot of Illyrian/PaleoBalkan ancestry and Bosniaks even more so. I am sure Slovenes have some PaleoBalkan and Celtic ancestry too. You obviously have a lot invested emotionally into the idea of having 'real Latin blood', but Romanians don't seem to have much of that and neither do most Iberians and French either. Non-Italian Latins are mostly Romanized natives.

Where did I say we're closer to Italians than to Bulgarians or Serbs? I said we are genetically closest to the Romanized local population of Romania, please read again.

I'm not claiming "real Latin blood", but I'm tired of people claiming stuff like us being "fake Latins" or of Bulgarians who treat us like North Macedonians and say we're "Latinized Bulgarians", it's ignorant and disrespectful.

[Straightman]

Where did I say we're closer to Italians than to Bulgarians or Serbs? I said we are genetically closest to the Romanized local population of Romania, please read again.

I'm not claiming "real Latin blood", but I'm tired of people claiming stuff like us being "fake Latins" or of Bulgarians who treat us like North Macedonians and say we're "Latinized Bulgarians", it's ignorant and disrespectful.

OK. In reality they are Slavicized Romanians. Kidding. Bulgarians are Slavs and Romanians Latins because of languages, but ancestry is very similar.

[Psycho]

OK. In reality they are Slavicized Romanians. Kidding. Bulgarians are Slavs and Romanians Latins because of languages, but ancestry is very similar.

We both also have strong Turkic influence, though we Bulgarians even more than you
We are closer to original Turan people

[Psycho]

Bosnians have the most Slavic dna in the balkans so I doubt they have morepaleo Balkan dna then Croats

Slovenes are the most Slavic Balkanites

[Straightman]

We both also have strong Turkic influence, though we Bulgarians even more than you
We are closer to original Turan people

Well there is some modest Mongoloid admixture in various East European peoples and it comes from Turkic medieval nomads from the steppes and let's not forget they were Turanids, not Mongoloid. That means that they could have been even just 1/4 Mongoloid/Proto-Turkic and 3/4 Caucasoid/ Iranians like Tatars are I think, so their genetic legacy is more than just the Mongoloid dna. But EE are still overwhelmingly descended from non-Turkic peoples and don't speak Turkic languages.

[Psycho]

Well there is some modest Mongoloid admixture in various East European peoples and it comes from Turkic medieval nomads from the steppes and let's not forget they were Turanids, not Mongoloid. That means that they could have been even just 1/4 Mongoloid/Proto-Turkic and 3/4 Caucasoid/ Iranians like Tatars are I think, so their genetic legacy is more than just the Mongoloid dna. But EE are still overwhelmingly descended from non-Turkic peoples and don't speak Turkic languages.

Exactly what I am saying to people from start of using Reddit, Quora, *********.. and now your forum.
Ancient Turanids were only 1/4 Mongoloid, rest of their DNA was like mix between Iranian and north European.
Kazakhs, Kyrgyz, Tuvans, Yakuts... are mixed with far East Asians

[Straightman]

Exactly what I am saying to people from start of using Reddit, Quora, *********.. and now your forum.
Ancient Turanids were only 1/4 Mongoloid, rest of their DNA was like mix between Iranian and north European.
Kazakhs, Kyrgyz, Tuvans, Yakuts... are mixed with far East Asians

Was that North European Finno-Ugric that some had?