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It was in Austria similar when I grew up but not specifically only for gypsies, in the 90s there werent that many Gypsies here in Upper austria but generally in newspapers it would say "only native or only locals" when they rent apartments, and i was not allowed in some pubs and nightclubs. But I think now its much less. Not sure if it still would be allowed to write "only locals".
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Jews are not same, there are brown skinned jews, others look very white. Millions of jew lived in Hungary and basically almos only the rural jews were deported during the Holocaust not the budapesters, thats why the local jewish community is very huge. And these jews have been affected by magyarization as well, even the transylvanian or slovakian jews were hungarian speakers.
Just because Orban and the government is pro-jewish (for political reasons) it does not mean that the hungarian society likes them. Antisemitism is significant in Hungary. This number what i mentioned in the case of Budapest (100 thousand jew) is just minimum estimate, the maximal is 200 thousand. To be honest nobody knows, because 1. majority of them hides it, or 2. tons of jew know nothing about their ancestry so they dont know what they are, because their parents did not tell it. In the 2000' years there was an ultra-fascist guy "Csanád Szegedi", he was very antisemitic, his parents raised him as hungarian patriot and later Csanád discovered that his whole family is jewish and his parents lied him about the background of the family.Hungary is very pro-Jewish politically these days, why would anyone hide? Hungary is one of rare European countries that voted against recognition of Palestine in UN recently.
Dont get me wrong, obviously most of these brownies are half gypsies, but not necessarily, especially not in Budapest. This mixing exist of course but Universe significantly overestimate it. What Varda said about the relationship of serbs and gypsies its also true in the case of Hungary.Do you deny integrated or mixed Gypsies avoid declaring as Gypsies?
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Obviously its not common or more common then gypsy-gypsy relationships im sure, depends also where in some villages in serbia you cannot even exist if you are gypsy, as neighbour, but its different in novi becej where im from.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novi_Be%C4%8Dej
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Through fields and forests, roads unplanned, They roam the world, a nomad band. Beautiful women, heroic men, In the Roma, life’s magic begins again.
"The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly. I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep." (John 10:10-11)
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Everytime when im talking with rural hungarians all of them says there are huge ethnic conflicts between gypsies and hungarians in the mixed areas. They hate each other. Although low class hungarians sometimes mixing with gypsies, but at same time low class hungarians are the most racist towards gypsies and they are voting for nationalist parties like Mi Hazánk. This party and Jobbik were most popular in these regions because of their anti-gypsy rethoric and their vote base is these low class hungarians. Its not true what Universe claims that this both group love and mixing with each other, and these hibryds will be the next generation, thats a complete bullshit. In fact the high class persons are far less racist, because they live in 100% white areas without any real experience with gypsies.
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"The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly. I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep." (John 10:10-11)
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I want to retract or revise some of my first post on this thread. It is not just the ugly and desperate or the sluts and prostitutes who mix with Gypsies. Maybe they love each other and it's a lot of normal (mostly lower class)Romanians who mix with Gypsies. But I still think it is not that common.
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Tensions and hatred between Hungarians and Gypsies in Hungary seems to be similar as between Macedonians and Albanians in NM https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012...thnic_violence
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