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    Default What determines kinship to you, similar genetics or a similar language?

    As we all know, Europe is a tapestry of different heritages, with various degrees of relation. However, some countries can be quite similar in the linguistic sense yet be distant in the genetic sense, and vice versa. A Calabrese has more genes in common with a Greek than with a Norman, yet his language his closer to that of the Norman. There are quite a few cases like this. To you, which is more important regarding kinship?

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    Hmmm i'll probably also add the cultural factor.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Beowulf View Post
    Hmmm i'll probably also add the cultural factor.
    Yes, there is that too, but I feel like culture is intertwined with these other factors a lot of the time.

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    A bit of both. I think it's more complicated than many people would make it out to be.

    For example, I personally detest the whole "Central Europe" concept or the idea that Czechs are somehow magically German because they really, really want to be. But I can recognize that we have many things in common with the countries immediately surrounding ours that we do not have in common with, say, Croatians and Ukrainians. That being said, there are other things we have in common with other Slavic people that we'll never have in common with Germans and Hungarians, namely things relating to our mentality and genetics and more historical cultural practices.

    I would say much of Europe is not easily placed in a perfectly homogeneous cultural category.

    I can't decide between the two options at all.
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    I voted similar genes and in the case of Romanians I think they really are more like Bulgarians and other Balkaners. But many Romanians think they are somehow like Italians, French, Iberians. Some will even think they have a connection with Latin Americans, no joke. And it's not just because of language in their minds, since in school they tell you bullshit story that Romanians are descended from real Romans from Roman Italy and from Dacians. They have no idea they have little to no Italic blood and a lot of Slavic blood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tropicalslavic View Post
    A bit of both. I think it's more complicated than many people would make it out to be.

    For example, I personally detest the whole "Central Europe" concept or the idea that Czechs are somehow magically German because they really, really want to be. But I can recognize that we have many things in common with the countries immediately surrounding ours that we do not have in common with, say, Croatians and Ukrainians. That being said, there are other things we have in common with other Slavic people that we'll never have in common with Germans and Hungarians, namely things relating to our mentality and genetics and more historical cultural practices.

    I would say much of Europe is not easily placed in a perfectly homogeneous cultural category.

    I can't decide between the two options at all.
    Yes, perhaps I did make it a bit too simplistic. But would you say you feel closer relations to a Slav from deep Polesie, or someone from far Eastern Germany?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Straightman View Post
    I voted similar genes and in the case of Romanians I think they really are more like Bulgarians and other Balkaners. But many Romanians think they are somehow like Italians, French, Iberians. Some will even think they have a connection with Latin Americans, no joke. And it's not just because of language in their minds, since in school they tell you bullshit story that Romanians are descended from real Romans from Roman Italy and from Dacians. They have no idea they have little to no Italic blood and a lot of Slavic blood.
    Well, not exactly Italic, but there is a great deal of Imperial Roman ancestry from Moesia, Dalmatia and Thrace. I still view you guys as our cousins from the East

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    The answer to that question is not simple. It would be a combination of culture, language and race/genetics.
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    Voted genes this is not possible to simplyfy with just genetics or language. For example, we have Balkanites and Caucasians in our nation, accepted as regular parts of us but genetically different (a little bit, though) so historical legacy should be taken into account beside these.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alnortedelsur View Post
    The answer to that question is not simple. It would be a combination of culture, language and race/genetics.
    Yeah, like I said, i probably should have added more to the poll. But as a Spanish descendant, do you feel closer to a Greek or a Walloon?

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