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    Quote Originally Posted by Asega View Post
    Target: Asega_scaled
    Distance: 4.8148% / 0.04814806
    59.4 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
    27.4 Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG
    13.2 France_Rochedane

    Target: Asega_scaled
    Distance: 6.4071% / 0.06407097
    61.6 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
    25.8 Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG
    12.6 Italy_South_HG_Ostuni1

    Distance to: Asega_scaled
    0.02952064 Norwegian
    0.03003325 Icelandic
    0.03084252 Swedish
    0.03421501 Danish
    0.03691813 Irish
    0.03763814 Shetlandic
    0.03838586 Scottish
    0.03993830 SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
    0.04136781 Dutch
    0.04238564 English
    0.04395343 Welsh
    0.04522813 German_Hamburg
    0.04546507 English_Cornwall
    0.05022898 French_Brittany
    0.05253291 German
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    0.06318254 Polish_Silesian
    0.06322209 BelgianB
    0.06448952 Polish_Kashubian
    0.06454967 French_Pas-de-Calais
    0.06591216 French_Nord
    0.06798783 Polish

    Distance to: Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
    0.12518432 Asega_scaled
    0.14145541 SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
    0.14173379 Swedish
    0.14528423 Icelandic
    0.14538280 Norwegian
    0.14626788 Polish_Kashubian
    0.14691370 Shetlandic
    0.14743516 Danish
    0.14835555 Polish
    0.14868644 Irish
    0.14977183 German_Hamburg
    0.15040774 Polish_Silesian
    0.15090875 Scottish
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    0.15379892 German_East
    0.15599082 English
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    0.16515663 BelgianA
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    0.17149021 French_Pas-de-Calais


    Something doesn't make sense. Are you more eastern than Finnish_East?

    Your Barcin plots you with Russian_Tver & Lithuanian_PA, and your Rochedane to Erzya. I'm confused. What is your background?
    Target: SC_NewDeepModernScaled_Official_Merged
    Distance: 1.7028% / 0.01702792 | ADC: 2x RC
    57.2 Irish
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScandinavianCelt View Post
    Your Yamnaya score places your genetics in this range:



    Is that accurate?

    Which raw data set are you using? Seems very out-of-the-ordinary high for anyone on the forum. Most of us who get most Yamnaya are showing either high Irish or specific Scandinavian sample matches.
    I match with Scandinavians and Irish, no? Don't get what you mean.

    MyHeritage raw data.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScandinavianCelt View Post


    Something doesn't make sense. Are you more eastern than Finnish_East?
    Not more eastern per PCA but yes, closer in distance to Yamnaya. On PCA I'm chiefly NW Euro.

    See profile: West Frisian. Northern Netherlands (Friesland).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asega View Post
    I match with Scandinavians and Irish, no? Don't get what you mean.

    MyHeritage raw data.
    If you put all modern pop ave scaled in TARGET along with your coordinates, and put the standard Yamnaya-Barcin-Rochedane as SOURCE you can run the MULTI tool and see where you plot for each of your matches. This allows you to see who you are plotting closest to.

    I don't think anyone in NW should be getting 59+ on Yamnaya calcs.

    Using Swedish, Irish, Norwegian, Scottish, Danish, and Dutch, you plot above every individual sample in all of NW Europe. I think there is an error somewhere.

    Target: SC_NewDeepModernScaled_Official_Merged
    Distance: 1.7028% / 0.01702792 | ADC: 2x RC
    57.2 Irish
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScandinavianCelt View Post
    If you put all modern pop ave scaled in TARGET along with your coordinates, and put the standard Yamnaya-Barcin-Rochedane as SOURCE you can run the MULTI tool and see where you plot for each of your matches. This allows you to see who you are plotting closest to.

    I don't think anyone in NW should be getting 59+ on Yamnaya calcs.

    Using Swedish, Irish, Norwegian, Scottish, Danish, and Dutch, you plot above every individual sample in all of NW Europe. I think there is an error somewhere.

    I don't think there is an error, otherwise Davidski would have mentioned something was wrong with the file after I sent him the raw data.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asega View Post
    Not more eastern per PCA but yes, closer in distance to Yamnaya. On PCA I'm chiefly NW Euro.

    See profile: West Frisian. Northern Netherlands (Friesland).
    show me your NO ADC but aggregated result with these:

    Norwegian,0.132092,0.129455,0.068051,0.054531,0.04 0323,0.019871,0.00416,0.006092,0.006151,-0.002287,-0.004644,0.004275,-0.009236,-0.01015,0.020253,0.006557,-0.0072,0.00331,0.002976,0.004108,0.005681,0.00409, 0.000887,0.014107,-6.9e-05
    Irish,0.133361,0.134098,0.061169,0.048864,0.037788 ,0.019352,0.003293,0.004713,0.003568,0.002927,-0.006971,0.00584,-0.014189,-0.014076,0.025935,0.005215,-0.011145,0.001894,0.000597,0.001776,0.005114,0.001 279,0.000293,0.014407,0.000661
    German,0.130299,0.137378,0.057363,0.037865,0.03956 6,0.015146,0.004177,0.005897,0.003746,0.001633,-0.004331,0.002316,-0.005334,-0.001744,0.008738,0.002822,-0.0033,0.001633,0.003531,0.001114,0.002947,0.00180 1,0.000337,0.00836,7.4e-05
    German_East,0.130897,0.138493,0.061094,0.049984,0. 038123,0.016141,0.006316,0.007038,0.002199,-0.00492,-0.005217,-0.00178,-3.7e-05,0.008223,0.001306,-0.003132,-0.007905,0.001188,0.005311,-0.00075,0.000624,-0.001113,0.001772,0.001612,-0.000314
    German_Erlangen,0.128569,0.137233,0.056163,0.03807 6,0.038593,0.015097,0.004223,0.005442,0.0041,-0.000112,-0.003119,0.00121,-0.003703,0.001892,0.00443,0.001817,-0.001831,0.0018,0.003111,0.000597,-0.000315,0.00136,0.00183,0.006703,2e-06
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    Basque_French,0.128051,0.152025,0.055173,0.012823, 0.056411,0.00251,-0.00141,0.003323,0.030597,0.041204,-0.009272,0.010341,-0.020976,-0.014024,0.013219,-0.001936,-0.011917,0.003028,-0.000716,-0.004415,0.010157,0.002485,-0.00864,-0.00917,7.2e-05
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    French_Bearn,0.126799,0.144814,0.053589,0.006008,0 .053949,0.002175,-0.001692,-0.002054,0.024461,0.039891,-0.008866,0.010236,-0.018999,-0.014327,0.014169,0.001578,-0.005724,-0.000899,-0.001735,-0.003302,0.005465,0.003141,-0.006643,-0.00817,0.000683
    French_Bigorre,0.128051,0.147353,0.052269,0.00533, 0.052225,-0.000837,-0.001669,0.000162,0.024809,0.03827,-0.003085,0.007883,-0.021481,-0.014148,0.00874,0.000186,-0.003559,0.002369,-0.000892,-0.002914,0.002508,-0.00089,-0.003291,-0.005904,0.00103
    French_Brittany,0.131466,0.13834,0.05785,0.039285, 0.039169,0.015813,0.003155,0.004211,0.008186,0.009 49,-0.005131,0.00559,-0.014368,-0.013102,0.018343,0.004399,-0.007302,0.00128,-0.000462,0.001773,0.004467,0.001787,-0.001254,0.010547,0.000659
    French_Chalosse,0.128734,0.14776,0.051892,0.011176 ,0.051333,0.002761,0.00047,0.001777,0.025259,0.039 655,-0.002696,0.008947,-0.020337,-0.015083,0.011088,0.002824,-0.005424,0.001672,-0.000779,-0.002239,0.008273,0.002844,-0.007691,-0.007664,-0.002096
    French_Corsica,0.120327,0.151822,0.01953,-0.023002,0.035039,-0.01004,-0.001846,-0.000561,0.015705,0.033792,-0.000603,0.007461,-0.013231,-0.007107,-0.004537,-0.000597,0.004042,0.001249,0.002451,-0.003046,-0.000392,0.000247,-0.002579,-0.001386,-0.00053
    French_Nord,0.128275,0.140543,0.051357,0.025605,0. 038273,0.008891,0.001097,0.00442,0.008373,0.012016 ,-0.003484,0.004033,-0.010861,-0.008182,0.011199,0.002543,-0.004607,0.002227,0.004095,0.001031,0.002133,0.001 525,-0.001572,0.007471,1.4e-05
    French_Occitanie,0.127039,0.144883,0.048879,0.0179 08,0.043376,0.003416,0.000522,0.003891,0.014856,0. 023589,-0.003288,0.006582,-0.015044,-0.009458,0.010737,0.002567,-0.003709,0.002484,0.001425,4.5e-05,0.003671,0.002446,-0.00255,0.001767,0.000422
    French_Paris,0.127171,0.141436,0.050431,0.02399,0. 040903,0.009305,0.002799,0.005454,0.011602,0.01817 4,-0.007706,0.006812,-0.012906,-0.010384,0.01377,0.006063,-0.001825,0.004664,0.002708,-0.000978,0.002201,0.003575,-0.001232,0.011141,-0.001905
    French_Pas-de-Calais,0.127861,0.140481,0.054305,0.026809,0.04216 2,0.012736,0.004152,0.001308,0.008522,0.012453,-0.008011,0.002198,-0.01001,-0.012019,0.013663,0.008132,-0.000478,0.001816,-0.003645,0.004252,0.009982,0.001443,-0.002547,0.005904,-0.001437
    French_Provence,0.121925,0.143847,0.036891,0.00535 8,0.036858,0.00233,0.002267,0.003638,0.010058,0.02 0453,-0.003869,0.007211,-0.012138,-0.010961,0.005956,0.003174,0.001097,0.002809,0.001 775,-0.001515,0.001541,0.002735,0.000355,0.005444,3.5e-05
    French_Seine-Maritime,0.136019,0.137096,0.045254,0.029555,0.039 084,0.016733,0.00423,-0.000692,0.003988,0.006014,-0.003735,0.007493,-0.007582,-0.001651,0.014251,0.003514,-0.007953,-0.002344,0.000943,-0.005002,0.003931,0.005503,0.000863,0.004278,-0.004491
    French_South,0.126181,0.144785,0.049618,0.00886,0. 050691,0.002669,0.000269,0.002275,0.02764,0.03866,-0.006774,0.007365,-0.021853,-0.013566,0.010373,0.002765,-0.005104,0.001792,0.000215,0.001912,0.004991,-0.00083,-0.005264,-0.007557,-0.00142
    Swiss_French,0.12734,0.14484,0.041436,0.010215,0.0 41162,0.006484,0.000823,0.002884,0.011811,0.019431 ,-0.000751,0.006594,-0.015962,-0.012524,0.008347,0.002171,0.005753,-0.001615,0.003661,-0.000344,0.004788,0.003648,0.001664,0.002576,-0.000479
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    Dutch,0.127441,0.134179,0.060271,0.044076,0.040844 ,0.016397,0.005402,0.007263,0.004209,0.001924,-0.005635,0.004427,-0.009846,-0.008676,0.01783,0.005623,-0.006516,0.001748,0.003909,0.002816,0.00448,0.0033 85,-5e-06,0.013892,-0.000656
    Finnish_Central,0.13077,0.086658,0.089419,0.07831, 0.029544,0.02414,0.010419,0.015025,0.003159,-0.024055,0.003609,-0.006394,0.012768,0.005459,0.002021,0.00056,-0.007186,-0.000451,-5.6e-05,0.002626,0.008083,-0.001869,0.001479,0.008649,0.004338
    Finnish_East,0.125855,0.078776,0.094388,0.083842,0 .02739,0.020877,0.007554,0.013945,0.004587,-0.03059,0.007377,-0.0079,0.016225,0.002084,-0.004072,0.008902,0.011008,-0.001647,-0.001365,0.006021,0.009751,0.001131,0.001197,0.008 005,0.00207
    Finnish_North,0.128762,0.078323,0.093149,0.079014, 0.027505,0.024577,0.00893,0.015201,0.004704,-0.02754,0.004811,-0.007025,0.016241,0.00812,0.001035,-0.007955,-0.017227,0.001283,-0.000628,0.002376,0.009249,0.000495,0.000632,0.005 859,0.005688
    Finnish_Southeast,0.132035,0.09072,0.088456,0.0771 97,0.033271,0.021072,0.009139,0.014051,0.002818,-0.021828,0.003103,-0.005861,0.011513,0.002982,0.001764,0.012714,0.012 821,-0.000985,-0.001508,0.008254,0.008111,-0.000769,0.002054,0.008796,-0.000971
    Finnish_Southwest,0.131323,0.096856,0.086313,0.072 11,0.033737,0.022974,0.008549,0.014047,0.004474,-0.020889,0.003897,-0.005807,0.011465,0.008584,0.005293,-0.008569,-0.020112,0.001441,0.001587,-0.000219,0.006863,0.000526,0.002773,0.005121,0.003 907
    Swedish,0.132193,0.125885,0.072642,0.058972,0.0402 64,0.02079,0.00638,0.009294,0.003649,-0.006663,-0.004203,0.000533,-0.003045,-0.003352,0.014593,0.005865,-0.005106,0.001622,0.002991,0.005015,0.006773,0.002 526,0.001253,0.011594,0.000212



    I get this:

    Target: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
    Distance: 1.8913% / 0.01891308
    55.6 Irish
    16.4 French_Provence
    12.0 Finnish_East
    9.2 German_East
    6.8 Finnish_Southeast


    Target: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
    Distance: 1.9674% / 0.01967383 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    54.4 Irish
    30.8 German_Erlangen
    14.8 Finnish_Southeast


    Target: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
    Distance: 2.3061% / 0.02306064 | ADC: 2x RC
    50.6 Danish
    49.4 Dutch
    Target: SC_NewDeepModernScaled_Official_Merged
    Distance: 1.7028% / 0.01702792 | ADC: 2x RC
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScandinavianCelt View Post
    show me your NO ADC but aggregated result with these:

    Norwegian,0.132092,0.129455,0.068051,0.054531,0.04 0323,0.019871,0.00416,0.006092,0.006151,-0.002287,-0.004644,0.004275,-0.009236,-0.01015,0.020253,0.006557,-0.0072,0.00331,0.002976,0.004108,0.005681,0.00409, 0.000887,0.014107,-6.9e-05
    Irish,0.133361,0.134098,0.061169,0.048864,0.037788 ,0.019352,0.003293,0.004713,0.003568,0.002927,-0.006971,0.00584,-0.014189,-0.014076,0.025935,0.005215,-0.011145,0.001894,0.000597,0.001776,0.005114,0.001 279,0.000293,0.014407,0.000661
    German,0.130299,0.137378,0.057363,0.037865,0.03956 6,0.015146,0.004177,0.005897,0.003746,0.001633,-0.004331,0.002316,-0.005334,-0.001744,0.008738,0.002822,-0.0033,0.001633,0.003531,0.001114,0.002947,0.00180 1,0.000337,0.00836,7.4e-05
    German_East,0.130897,0.138493,0.061094,0.049984,0. 038123,0.016141,0.006316,0.007038,0.002199,-0.00492,-0.005217,-0.00178,-3.7e-05,0.008223,0.001306,-0.003132,-0.007905,0.001188,0.005311,-0.00075,0.000624,-0.001113,0.001772,0.001612,-0.000314
    German_Erlangen,0.128569,0.137233,0.056163,0.03807 6,0.038593,0.015097,0.004223,0.005442,0.0041,-0.000112,-0.003119,0.00121,-0.003703,0.001892,0.00443,0.001817,-0.001831,0.0018,0.003111,0.000597,-0.000315,0.00136,0.00183,0.006703,2e-06
    German_Hamburg,0.128285,0.13399,0.063467,0.048526, 0.040062,0.020375,0.007562,0.009108,0.00296,-0.003559,-0.003878,8.8e-05,-0.00251,0.000753,0.009436,0.003268,-0.004556,0.002556,0.003993,0.000684,0.00174,0.0015 57,0.002719,0.00735,-0.001035
    Swiss_German,0.127624,0.140778,0.046009,0.022731,0 .040623,0.007391,0.002791,0.005134,0.008641,0.0121 64,-0.001522,0.005264,-0.01494,-0.008808,0.008364,-0.001127,-0.002591,0.001219,0.005374,-0.000922,0.001934,0.003509,-0.002557,0.006974,-0.00256
    Basque_French,0.128051,0.152025,0.055173,0.012823, 0.056411,0.00251,-0.00141,0.003323,0.030597,0.041204,-0.009272,0.010341,-0.020976,-0.014024,0.013219,-0.001936,-0.011917,0.003028,-0.000716,-0.004415,0.010157,0.002485,-0.00864,-0.00917,7.2e-05
    French_Alsace,0.127311,0.140372,0.050317,0.022432, 0.038423,0.008911,0.00292,0.004875,0.006852,0.0106 79,-0.003134,0.004578,-0.009444,-0.00417,0.008561,0.003066,-0.004893,0.002439,0.003243,-0.000716,0.002764,0.001156,-0.001322,0.007137,-0.000314
    French_Auvergne,0.125416,0.144656,0.04742,0.012992 ,0.043472,0.003997,-0.000339,0.002513,0.015407,0.022172,-0.002466,0.007355,-0.013969,-0.009669,0.008299,0.001483,-0.000787,0.001497,0.003073,-0.000213,0.001858,0.003737,-0.002282,0.001816,-8.9e-05
    French_Bearn,0.126799,0.144814,0.053589,0.006008,0 .053949,0.002175,-0.001692,-0.002054,0.024461,0.039891,-0.008866,0.010236,-0.018999,-0.014327,0.014169,0.001578,-0.005724,-0.000899,-0.001735,-0.003302,0.005465,0.003141,-0.006643,-0.00817,0.000683
    French_Bigorre,0.128051,0.147353,0.052269,0.00533, 0.052225,-0.000837,-0.001669,0.000162,0.024809,0.03827,-0.003085,0.007883,-0.021481,-0.014148,0.00874,0.000186,-0.003559,0.002369,-0.000892,-0.002914,0.002508,-0.00089,-0.003291,-0.005904,0.00103
    French_Brittany,0.131466,0.13834,0.05785,0.039285, 0.039169,0.015813,0.003155,0.004211,0.008186,0.009 49,-0.005131,0.00559,-0.014368,-0.013102,0.018343,0.004399,-0.007302,0.00128,-0.000462,0.001773,0.004467,0.001787,-0.001254,0.010547,0.000659
    French_Chalosse,0.128734,0.14776,0.051892,0.011176 ,0.051333,0.002761,0.00047,0.001777,0.025259,0.039 655,-0.002696,0.008947,-0.020337,-0.015083,0.011088,0.002824,-0.005424,0.001672,-0.000779,-0.002239,0.008273,0.002844,-0.007691,-0.007664,-0.002096
    French_Corsica,0.120327,0.151822,0.01953,-0.023002,0.035039,-0.01004,-0.001846,-0.000561,0.015705,0.033792,-0.000603,0.007461,-0.013231,-0.007107,-0.004537,-0.000597,0.004042,0.001249,0.002451,-0.003046,-0.000392,0.000247,-0.002579,-0.001386,-0.00053
    French_Nord,0.128275,0.140543,0.051357,0.025605,0. 038273,0.008891,0.001097,0.00442,0.008373,0.012016 ,-0.003484,0.004033,-0.010861,-0.008182,0.011199,0.002543,-0.004607,0.002227,0.004095,0.001031,0.002133,0.001 525,-0.001572,0.007471,1.4e-05
    French_Occitanie,0.127039,0.144883,0.048879,0.0179 08,0.043376,0.003416,0.000522,0.003891,0.014856,0. 023589,-0.003288,0.006582,-0.015044,-0.009458,0.010737,0.002567,-0.003709,0.002484,0.001425,4.5e-05,0.003671,0.002446,-0.00255,0.001767,0.000422
    French_Paris,0.127171,0.141436,0.050431,0.02399,0. 040903,0.009305,0.002799,0.005454,0.011602,0.01817 4,-0.007706,0.006812,-0.012906,-0.010384,0.01377,0.006063,-0.001825,0.004664,0.002708,-0.000978,0.002201,0.003575,-0.001232,0.011141,-0.001905
    French_Pas-de-Calais,0.127861,0.140481,0.054305,0.026809,0.04216 2,0.012736,0.004152,0.001308,0.008522,0.012453,-0.008011,0.002198,-0.01001,-0.012019,0.013663,0.008132,-0.000478,0.001816,-0.003645,0.004252,0.009982,0.001443,-0.002547,0.005904,-0.001437
    French_Provence,0.121925,0.143847,0.036891,0.00535 8,0.036858,0.00233,0.002267,0.003638,0.010058,0.02 0453,-0.003869,0.007211,-0.012138,-0.010961,0.005956,0.003174,0.001097,0.002809,0.001 775,-0.001515,0.001541,0.002735,0.000355,0.005444,3.5e-05
    French_Seine-Maritime,0.136019,0.137096,0.045254,0.029555,0.039 084,0.016733,0.00423,-0.000692,0.003988,0.006014,-0.003735,0.007493,-0.007582,-0.001651,0.014251,0.003514,-0.007953,-0.002344,0.000943,-0.005002,0.003931,0.005503,0.000863,0.004278,-0.004491
    French_South,0.126181,0.144785,0.049618,0.00886,0. 050691,0.002669,0.000269,0.002275,0.02764,0.03866,-0.006774,0.007365,-0.021853,-0.013566,0.010373,0.002765,-0.005104,0.001792,0.000215,0.001912,0.004991,-0.00083,-0.005264,-0.007557,-0.00142
    Swiss_French,0.12734,0.14484,0.041436,0.010215,0.0 41162,0.006484,0.000823,0.002884,0.011811,0.019431 ,-0.000751,0.006594,-0.015962,-0.012524,0.008347,0.002171,0.005753,-0.001615,0.003661,-0.000344,0.004788,0.003648,0.001664,0.002576,-0.000479
    Danish,0.131248,0.135065,0.066378,0.052438,0.04130 3,0.019457,0.005159,0.007401,0.003436,-0.002558,-0.005359,0.00348,-0.008507,-0.007093,0.018669,0.006117,-0.006519,0.002047,0.00324,0.004346,0.00564,0.00243 5,0.000692,0.013774,0.000201
    Dutch,0.127441,0.134179,0.060271,0.044076,0.040844 ,0.016397,0.005402,0.007263,0.004209,0.001924,-0.005635,0.004427,-0.009846,-0.008676,0.01783,0.005623,-0.006516,0.001748,0.003909,0.002816,0.00448,0.0033 85,-5e-06,0.013892,-0.000656
    Finnish_Central,0.13077,0.086658,0.089419,0.07831, 0.029544,0.02414,0.010419,0.015025,0.003159,-0.024055,0.003609,-0.006394,0.012768,0.005459,0.002021,0.00056,-0.007186,-0.000451,-5.6e-05,0.002626,0.008083,-0.001869,0.001479,0.008649,0.004338
    Finnish_East,0.125855,0.078776,0.094388,0.083842,0 .02739,0.020877,0.007554,0.013945,0.004587,-0.03059,0.007377,-0.0079,0.016225,0.002084,-0.004072,0.008902,0.011008,-0.001647,-0.001365,0.006021,0.009751,0.001131,0.001197,0.008 005,0.00207
    Finnish_North,0.128762,0.078323,0.093149,0.079014, 0.027505,0.024577,0.00893,0.015201,0.004704,-0.02754,0.004811,-0.007025,0.016241,0.00812,0.001035,-0.007955,-0.017227,0.001283,-0.000628,0.002376,0.009249,0.000495,0.000632,0.005 859,0.005688
    Finnish_Southeast,0.132035,0.09072,0.088456,0.0771 97,0.033271,0.021072,0.009139,0.014051,0.002818,-0.021828,0.003103,-0.005861,0.011513,0.002982,0.001764,0.012714,0.012 821,-0.000985,-0.001508,0.008254,0.008111,-0.000769,0.002054,0.008796,-0.000971
    Finnish_Southwest,0.131323,0.096856,0.086313,0.072 11,0.033737,0.022974,0.008549,0.014047,0.004474,-0.020889,0.003897,-0.005807,0.011465,0.008584,0.005293,-0.008569,-0.020112,0.001441,0.001587,-0.000219,0.006863,0.000526,0.002773,0.005121,0.003 907
    Swedish,0.132193,0.125885,0.072642,0.058972,0.0402 64,0.02079,0.00638,0.009294,0.003649,-0.006663,-0.004203,0.000533,-0.003045,-0.003352,0.014593,0.005865,-0.005106,0.001622,0.002991,0.005015,0.006773,0.002 526,0.001253,0.011594,0.000212



    I get this:

    Target: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
    Distance: 1.8913% / 0.01891308
    55.6 Irish
    16.4 French_Provence
    12.0 Finnish_East
    9.2 German_East
    6.8 Finnish_Southeast
    Target: Asega_scaled
    Distance: 2.5634% / 0.02563378
    66.6 Irish
    25.6 Finnish_East
    7.8 Norwegian

    Like I said, Irish plus Finnish.
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    Target: Asega_scaled
    Distance: 2.5634% / 0.02563378
    66.6 Irish
    25.6 Finnish_East
    7.8 Norwegian

    Like I said, Irish plus Finnish.
    Nice mix, but confusing, as FULL east Finns score 58+. It's a mystery.
    Target: SC_NewDeepModernScaled_Official_Merged
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    Nice mix, but confusing, as FULL east Finns score 58+. It's a mystery.
    Haha. It's an abstract of the model. Finns have Uralic ancestry, and when not accounted for, boosts the Steppe artificially.

    My take on this is that it's just sheer coincidence. I plot in the Vahaduo PCA among a subset Anglo-Saxons who carry basically the same levels of Steppe ancestry and/or high WHG ancestry.

    The Anglo-Saxons from England and the Frisians descend from the same Early Medieval founder population. Frisians genetically remained the the same since then. England is a different story obviously.

    If you go back further time, there is a LNBA continuity in the southern North Sea region (Netherlands, Northwestern Germany, Denmark) stretching back to Single Grave and their Bell Beaker heirs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asega View Post
    Haha. It's an abstract of the model. Finns have Uralic ancestry, and when not accounted for, boosts the Steppe artificially.

    My take on this is that it's just sheer coincidence. I plot in the Vahaduo PCA among a subset Anglo-Saxons who carry basically the same levels of Steppe ancestry and/or high WHG ancestry.

    The Anglo-Saxons from England and the Frisians descend from the same Early Medieval founder population. Frisians genetically remained the the same since then. England is a different story obviously.
    I matched this sample on DNAGenics Ancient Europe report and wonder if you match it? If you don't know, you can check the distance at least to you:

    Netherlands_BellBeaker:I4074,0.126344,0.118817,0.0 52043,0.079781,0.017542,0.02259,-0.00235,-0.000923,-0.015135,-0.015126,-0.000974,0.003597,-0.007582,-0.015414,0.022801,0.007955,-0.002608,0.000887,0.002388,0.008129,0.009858,-0.000618,-0.00493,0.007832,0.000479


    I get this:

    Distance to: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
    0.04541222 Netherlands_BellBeaker:I4074


    They are high Yamnaya:

    Target: Netherlands_BellBeaker:I4074
    Distance: 2.5752% / 0.02575188
    64.8 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
    24.2 Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG
    11.0 France_Rochedane
    Target: SC_NewDeepModernScaled_Official_Merged
    Distance: 1.7028% / 0.01702792 | ADC: 2x RC
    57.2 Irish
    42.8 Norwegian

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