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    One update to the calculator, I decided to add Epigravettian population to reference populations.

    Because it emerged 21,000 years ago, so within the timeframe of the calculator (26,000 - 20,000):

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    Caucasian:NEO283,0.053497,0.090382,-0.00264,0.009044,0.040623,-0.011156,0.00564,0.004846,0.033951,0.021139,0.006333,-0.001049,0.0055,0,-0.01045,0.008353,0.004694,-0.001647,-0.001885,0.026263,0.023583,-0.003586,-0.016885,-0.040126,-0.009819
    Northeast_Asian:NE56,0.006829,-0.426522,0.017348,-0.050388,0.011694,-0.006414,-0.00235,-0.010153,0.000818,0.005103,-0.032478,-0.003447,0.00446,0.000138,-0.006515,-0.001724,0.004042,0.00152,0.004274,-0.004502,0.01435,-0.013354,0.005053,-0.00976,-0.017244
    Ancient_North_Eurasian:MA1,0.076261,-0.024373,0.036581,0.187018,-0.069859,0.045738,-0.050057,-0.059305,-0.019021,-0.068339,0.030691,-0.012589,0.016353,-0.044039,0.018051,0.021214,-0.008084,0.00228,-0.003771,0.002751,-0.028075,0.00507,0.013188,-0.007471,0
    Iberomaurusian:TAF,-0.181548,0.0886893,-0.020553,-0.0845722,0.0318522,-0.055871,-0.0708555,0.0155763,0.1591195,0.0054368,0.0190807,-0.03362,0.073934,-0.048145,0.0690362,-0.0357772,0.0040638,-0.06364,-0.1429605,0.0382057,-0.0410525,-0.1256725,0.0718742,-0.0174522,0.0182218
    Gravettian,0.0523589,0.0300309,0.0334021,0.0796887,0.048009,0.0056176,-0.0015107,-0.0024724,0.0591076,0.0186921,0.0064956,-0.0140019,0.0107034,-0.0087096,0.0158017,0.0153047,0.0000001,0.0031854,-0.0104689,0.026066,0.0341186,0.009539,-0.0153884,-0.0663433,0.0027884
    Solutrean,0.055773,0.010155,0.039975,0.085918,0.066782,0.019522,-0.003525,0.001154,0.080787,0.036629,0.017863,-0.004646,0.004014,-0.027937,0.019001,0.020419,0.001304,0.010135,-0.013198,0.04202,0.040304,0.002473,-0.022061,-0.095435,0.017483
    Epigravettian,0.121791,0.11577,0.18592,0.185726,0.156029,0.060798,0.017626,0.041537,0.093467,0.017859,-0.015752,-0.015886,0.020961,-0.005092,0.05361,0.064041,0.007562,0.004181,-0.00905,0.053401,0.099949,0.012489,-0.044123,-0.169904,0.018801
    Central_African(east):I19528,-0.57936,0.050776,0.001508,0.02907,-0.013233,0.000837,0.190124,-0.136379,0.049495,-0.012757,-0.004547,-0.025178,-0.02215,0.005505,0.005293,-0.023336,0.026468,0.119721,-0.029036,-0.012381,-0.01959,-0.00136,0.004683,-0.00253,0.006107
    Central_African(west):Shum_Laka,-0.601555,0.0573775,0.013199,0.0292315,-0.0043085,0.005857,0.123028,-0.0961115,0.011351,-0.006925,0.0006495,-0.0209065,-0.0191775,-0.0040595,-0.0004075,-0.002917,0.015255,0.0190665,-0.0028915,-0.002814,-0.0023085,0.001113,-0.0022185,-0.002892,-0.0007185
    Central_African:Mbuti,-0.647426,0.0591038,0.0254932,0.0374034,-0.001108,0.0066378,0.3663348,-0.293434,0.0177118,0.02985,-0.0089316,0.2198242,0.1264506,0.0010182,0.010342,-0.0014052,0.0009386,-0.0518664,0.014229,0.003727,0.0061144,-0.0018548,-0.0043878,0.0025304,-0.0006944
    East_African:TZA_KEN_HG,-0.539142,0.0446833,-0.0017597,0.0108743,0.001436,-0.0060427,0.1070867,-0.0886887,0.0636067,-0.0600167,-0.010447,0.003297,-0.0241323,-0.00367,0.0144317,-0.0152477,0.019297,0.0586993,-0.013282,-0.0051687,-0.008984,-0.0006183,-0.007477,-0.0062257,0.0021953
    Northeast_African:I5950,-0.515619,0.041637,-0.003394,-0.001292,-0.00277,-0.011713,0.054992,-0.052382,0.090604,-0.094581,-0.013478,0.003297,-0.031962,-0.001927,0.023615,-0.031291,0.031944,0.043454,-0.002388,-0.00963,-0.001248,0.00643,-0.005176,-0.003133,0.004071
    Sahulian:AUS,-0.040597,-0.2254477,-0.2047767,0.2240553,0.1418725,-0.3258838,-0.0028592,0.0069998,-0.0061695,-0.0015793,-0.0058462,0.0015485,0.001759,-0.0012388,-0.0091387,-0.0016133,0.0043028,0.0010558,-0.0034357,0.0019175,0.0017885,-0.0011747,-0.0032662,-0.0018878,-0.00473
    Sahulian:New_Guinea,-0.0441635,-0.2425085,-0.2602638,0.3051715,0.2082853,-0.503323,0.000517,0.0054921,-0.0403457,-0.0130965,-0.0176677,0.0015383,0.0014075,-0.003101,-0.0003981,0.0006451,-0.0038592,-0.0012923,-0.0000253,-0.0004252,0.0023209,0.0015087,0.0024648,-0.0012372,0.0022116
    South_African:ZAF_HG,-0.6408243,0.05687,0.02577,0.0370373,-0.001231,-0.0036253,0.268147,-0.2059917,0.0117943,0.0157937,0.0073077,-0.0660413,-0.021407,0.005826,0.0249723,-0.017944,0.0321613,0.2937907,-0.095824,0.005086,-0.0344393,-0.003586,0.00304,-0.0037353,-0.00459
    Southeast_Asian:Hoabinhian,-0.025041,-0.224432,-0.11917,0.087856,0.022466,-0.001952,-0.003055,0.01223,0.060539,0.018406,0.012829,0.001199,-0.000446,0.006055,-0.007872,-0.006364,-0.00352,-0.00076,-0.005531,0.023386,0.006988,0.013107,-0.017131,-0.001325,0.003712
    Southeast_Asian:Leang_Panninge,-0.047806,-0.204121,-0.154997,0.17216,0.089863,-0.176259,-0.002115,-0.005769,0.02352,0.01221,0.002598,-0.005095,-0.000446,0,0.010315,-0.000398,0.005998,0.005321,-0.000377,0.010255,0.006863,-0.001607,-0.003821,0.003735,-0.007664
    South_Asian:AASI_Simulated,-0.0070176,-0.2472689,-0.2299763,0.1656382,-0.0353689,0.0643319,-0.0151889,0.0277276,0.1473805,0.1010641,-0.0046641,-0.0043335,0.0032289,0.0260319,-0.0477209,-0.0452003,0.0100937,0.0009062,0.0002451,0.0390401,0.0094294,0.0240102,-0.0030685,0.0159835,-0.0108689
    West_African:WA_HG_Simulated,-0.693857,0.06452,0.0292866,0.030595,-0.003636,0.0222202,-0.0305968,0.0394146,-0.079397,0.033499,0.0035156,0.0028316,0.0147168,0.0053334,0.0011988,-0.0013032,0.0092676,0.006106,0.0324162,-0.0109938,0.0040836,0.0235322,-0.0140118,-0.0004606,-0.0029534
    Beringian:Anzick,0.05122,-0.298566,0.11653,0.097546,-0.101557,-0.01255,-0.263682,-0.319371,-0.011044,-0.025331,0.005359,-0.003597,0.000743,0.01101,-0.010043,0.006629,0.007432,0.000887,-0.004902,0.003627,-0.004991,0.002102,-0.008504,0.000361,0.002515
    New map of reference populations:

    https://i.imgur.com/qrAfz7a.png

    Last edited by Peterski; 05-09-2025 at 10:18 AM.
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    First model:


    Target: gixajo_scaled
    Distance: 12.0247% / 0.12024714

    100.0 Caucasian

    Updated model:

    Target: gixajo_scaled
    Distance: 11.7984% / 0.11798388

    93.6 Caucasian
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    One update to the calculator, I decided to add Epigravettian population to reference populations.

    Because it emerged 21,000 years ago, so within the timeframe of the calculator (26,000 - 20,000):
    Target: rothaer_scaled
    Distance: 12.4402% / 0.12440181
    69.4 Caucasian
    15.6 Ancient_North_Eurasian
    15.0 Epigravettian
    Target: rothaer_scaled
    Distance: 1.0091% / 0.01009085

    39.8 (Balto-)Slavic
    39.0 Germanic
    19.2 Celtic-like
    1.8 Graeco-Roman
    0.2 Finnic-like

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    One update to the calculator, I decided to add Epigravettian population to reference populations...
    Target: cass
    Distance: 12.6183% / 0.12618324
    69.6 Caucasian
    16.4 Ancient_North_Eurasian
    14.0 Epigravettian

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    With the update:

    Distance to: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
    0.14309956 Caucasian:NEO283
    0.18198782 Gravettian
    0.22182089 Solutrean
    0.29095727 Ancient_North_Eurasian:MA1
    0.34358103 Epigravettian
    0.44428332 Southeast_Asian:Hoabinhian
    0.47006665 Iberomaurusian:TAF
    0.50275337 Southeast_Asian:Leang_Panninge
    0.56406649 South_Asian:AASI_Simulated
    0.59101997 Northeast_Asian:NE56
    0.62664849 Sahulian:AUS
    0.63355691 Beringian:Anzick
    0.68188151 Northeast_African:I5950
    0.70600906 East_African:TZA_KEN_HG
    0.75897029 Central_African(west):Shum_Laka
    0.77405055 Central_African(east):I19528
    0.80411044 Sahulian:New_Guinea
    0.83692114 West_African:WA_HG_Simulated
    0.91169138 South_African:ZAF_HG
    0.95237167 Central_African:Mbuti

    Target: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
    Distance: 0.1313% / 0.13125891
    77.0 Caucasian:NEO283
    12.3 Ancient_North_Eurasian:MA1
    10.7 Epigravettian



    Out of curiosity I tried the Old Kingdom Egyptian NUE001:

    Distance to: Egypt_OldKingdom_LateEarlyDynastic:NUE001_ss__BC_2 712__Cov_70.66%
    0.18303402 Caucasian:NEO283
    0.27062530 Gravettian
    0.30656083 Solutrean
    0.33133478 Iberomaurusian:TAF
    0.41144315 Ancient_North_Eurasian:MA1
    0.43576799 Southeast_Asian:Hoabinhian
    0.49711482 Epigravettian
    0.49734543 Southeast_Asian:Leang_Panninge
    0.55518395 South_Asian:AASI_Simulated
    0.58192016 Northeast_Asian:NE56
    0.59538217 Northeast_African:I5950
    0.61826023 Sahulian:AUS
    0.62686593 East_African:TZA_KEN_HG
    0.66558685 Beringian:Anzick
    0.68850120 Central_African(west):Shum_Laka
    0.70415906 Central_African(east):I19528
    0.77080678 West_African:WA_HG_Simulated
    0.79745759 Sahulian:New_Guinea
    0.85353946 South_African:ZAF_HG
    0.89741494 Central_African:Mbuti

    Target: Egypt_OldKingdom_LateEarlyDynastic:NUE001_ss__BC_2 712__Cov_70.66%
    Distance: 0.1521% / 0.15211734
    74.3 Caucasian:NEO283
    25.7 Iberomaurusian:TAF



    Iberomaurusian:

    Distance to: Iberomaurusian:TAF
    0.39614469 Caucasian:NEO283
    0.41868835 Gravettian
    0.43130349 Solutrean
    0.48670203 Northeast_African:I5950
    0.49906466 Southeast_Asian:Hoabinhian
    0.52258858 East_African:TZA_KEN_HG
    0.52552724 Ancient_North_Eurasian:MA1
    0.54141203 Southeast_Asian:Leang_Panninge
    0.58100651 Central_African(west):Shum_Laka
    0.60347111 South_Asian:AASI_Simulated
    0.60437605 Epigravettian
    0.60770724 Central_African(east):I19528
    0.63530258 Northeast_Asian:NE56
    0.65580677 Sahulian:AUS
    0.65591644 West_African:WA_HG_Simulated
    0.72258923 Beringian:Anzick
    0.76566682 South_African:ZAF_HG
    0.81982856 Central_African:Mbuti
    0.82455126 Sahulian:New_Guinea
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    Nurzat_dad: 84.0 Caucasian + 16.0 Ancient_North_Eurasian

    Nurzat: 86.4 Caucasian + 13.6 Ancient_North_Eurasian

    Nurzat_maternal_grandma: 90.4 Caucasian + 9.6 Ancient_North_Eurasian

    avg dist 0.122


    with Epigravettian:

    Nurzat_dad: 79.2 Caucasian + 15.0 Ancient_North_Eurasian + 5.8 Epigravettian

    Nurzat: 83.2 Caucasian + 12.8 Ancient_North_Eurasian + 4.0 Epigravettian

    Nurzat_maternal_grandma: 87.6 Caucasian + 9.0 Ancient_North_Eurasian + 3.4 Epigravettian


    Distance to: Nurzat_dad
    0.13326282 Caucasian:NEO283
    0.17754364 Gravettian
    0.22326888 Solutrean
    0.28067113 Ancient_North_Eurasian:MA1
    0.35617832 Epigravettian
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    Target: Dušan_scaled
    Distance: 12.6577% / 0.12657743
    87.4 Caucasian
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    4.0 Epigravettian
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    Your intentions are good Piotr but G25 just isn't the tool for determining UP pctgs acurately. For example levantines and jews have considerable ANE and iberomaurusian ancestry but just show up as 100% dzudzuana here. We iberians have considerable ANE , around 20% but that too doesn't even show up.
    If using Barcin as a less drifted proxy for Caucasus UP results get more acurate.

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    Distance to: Pohjanpoika_scaled
    0.15898008 Gravettian
    0.16247118 Caucasian:NEO283
    0.20065628 Solutrean
    0.24126731 Ancient_North_Eurasian:MA1
    0.31958378 Epigravettian
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    0.48162621 Southeast_Asian:Leang_Panninge
    0.48310781 Iberomaurusian:TAF
    0.53722709 South_Asian:AASI_Simulated
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    0.60464503 Beringian:Anzick
    0.61043529 Sahulian:AUS
    0.67945170 Northeast_African:I5950
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    0.83658271 West_African:WA_HG_Simulated
    0.90613756 South_African:ZAF_HG
    0.94998163 Central_African:Mbuti

    Target: Pohjanpoika_scaled
    Distance: 11.5845% / 0.11584502
    53.8 Caucasian
    29.2 Ancient_North_Eurasian
    17.0 Epigravettian

    Distance to: Pohjanpoika_father_scaled
    0.15917023 Gravettian
    0.16279956 Caucasian:NEO283
    0.20024233 Solutrean
    0.24845338 Ancient_North_Eurasian:MA1
    0.31668945 Epigravettian
    0.41602926 Southeast_Asian:Hoabinhian
    0.48018260 Iberomaurusian:TAF
    0.48204471 Southeast_Asian:Leang_Panninge
    0.54009742 South_Asian:AASI_Simulated
    0.55674809 Northeast_Asian:NE56
    0.60745211 Beringian:Anzick
    0.61003934 Sahulian:AUS
    0.67457728 Northeast_African:I5950
    0.69867824 East_African:TZA_KEN_HG
    0.75236394 Central_African(west):Shum_Laka
    0.76453464 Central_African(east):I19528
    0.79161215 Sahulian:New_Guinea
    0.83264649 West_African:WA_HG_Simulated
    0.90061856 South_African:ZAF_HG
    0.94725870 Central_African:Mbuti

    Target: Pohjanpoika_father_scaled
    Distance: 11.8937% / 0.11893687
    55.0 Caucasian
    27.0 Ancient_North_Eurasian
    18.0 Epigravettian

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    First model

    Target: Vitez_scaled
    Distance: 0.1215% / 0.12151144
    85.9 Caucasian
    14.1 Ancient_North_Eurasian

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    Target: Vitez_scaled
    Distance: 0.1197% / 0.11965945
    81.0 Caucasian
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