Mega QAPDM Models thread

[Gannicus]

Look back how and why i said that. You kept repeating your Kotias think. I told you many times before i tried it looked like you ingoned things. Again my comment was not personal like yours becuase you did sound like you don't read that much and just because you overreact and become emotional doesn'tgive you the right assuming things about me. Another indicator was that you went on that using Satsublia is wrong which if you would have read about the scientist that do actually use the sample than you would understand what i meant. As i said that snps don't have a date or age.

Let's just see it as a misunderstanding and move on and continue the topic.

No, no, you are not going to wiggle out of this. What you said was a personal attack. I was polite/neutral to you. Let me spell it out for you:

Why It Qualifies as an Insult

“Sorry but you have no idea” > This statement attacks knowledge or competence directly, rather than addressing the substance of the argument.

“don’t actually read scientific papers” > This implies dishonesty or laziness, instead of offering a fair critique of interpretation or reasoning.

“keep repeating the same nonsense as most here” > By labeling points as “nonsense” rather than engaging with them, the comment becomes disparaging and dismissive.

Yeah, if you want to be constructive, don't use language like that or I will take you on. Just realize you f*cked up. I didn't employ that language against you until you said that to me.

Using the emotional argument is weak and cheap move to score "points" After a while of tolerating slights I had enough. I completely explained the reaction. It's not unprovoked.

I can absolutely assume anything I want. You are not going to tell me what not to think.

Let's clear things up. I noticed you had gaps in knowledge too like the comment you made about p-values (which was totally way off) So, when I saw that comment did I immediately insult you? No. I simply said, "That's not correct" and a cited a paper that published an admixture result with a p-value far less than 0.5. I only called it out after you attacked me.

[Croatian Legend]

No, no, you are not going to wiggle out of this. I was polite/neutral to you. Let me spell it out for you:

Why It Qualifies as an Insult

“Sorry but you have no idea” > This statement attacks knowledge or competence directly, rather than addressing the substance of the argument.

“don’t actually read scientific papers” > This implies dishonesty or laziness, instead of offering a fair critique of interpretation or reasoning.

“keep repeating the same nonsense as most here” > By labeling points as “nonsense” rather than engaging with them, the comment becomes disparaging and dismissive.

Yeah, if you want to be constructive. Don't use language like that or I will take you on. Just realize you f*cked up. And me questioning your sample choice is fine because I'm not hyperfixated on the Caucasus. Population genetics is broad and massive.

I stand behind what i said and rightly so. I critized you on the topic and didn't go for personal attacks like you did so shut the hell up for once.
It seems you can just go for personal attacks and be over emotional, this is on you not me.

Get over it i am done arguing take it or leave it!

[Gannicus]

I stand behind what i said and rightly so. I critized you on the topic and didn't go for personal attacks like you did so shut the hell up for once.
It seems you can just go for personal attacks and be over emotional, this is on you not me.

Get over it i am done arguing take it or leave it!

You attacked me first. It was an insult. Do you understand the sequence of events?

"Sorry but you have no idea or rather you don't actually read scientfic papers because you keep repeating the same nonsense as most here."

^ In the English language this can register as an insult. I took it as a personal attack, and I responded. We have the thread as the record.

Edit: You quoted my initial unedited post. there is more there now.

[Croatian Legend]

No, no, you are not going to wiggle out of this. I was polite/neutral to you. Let me spell it out for you:

Why It Qualifies as an Insult

“Sorry but you have no idea” > This statement attacks knowledge or competence directly, rather than addressing the substance of the argument.

“don’t actually read scientific papers” > This implies dishonesty or laziness, instead of offering a fair critique of interpretation or reasoning.

“keep repeating the same nonsense as most here” > By labeling points as “nonsense” rather than engaging with them, the comment becomes disparaging and dismissive.

Yeah, if you want to be constructive, don't use language like that or I will take you on. Just realize you f*cked up.

There is a differnce between taking a dead on critic on a topic and going for personal attacks like you did. But it seems you cannot see the differnce. If you wanna be over emotinal then keep going. You simple wanna ignore the nuances. And how ignorantly you behaved even though i pointed it out many times before you went on.

Sure you can think whatever ..... but then accept it when you get hit back. I could get personal but i wasn't even until now.

I am done.

[Gannicus]

There is a differnce between taking a dead on critic on a topic and going for personal attacks like you did. But it seems you cannot see the differnce. If you wanna be over emotinal then keep going. You simple wanna ignore the nuances. And how ignorantly you behaved even though i pointed it out many times before you went on.

Sure you can think whatever ..... but then accept it when you get hit back. I could get personal but i wasn't even until now.

I am done.

Guess I'm going to have to link your post again.

Sorry but you have no idea or rather you don't actually read scientfic papers because you keep repeating the same nonsense as most here.
Satsurblia is definitly used and also swapped in profesional testing. Satsurblia indicates a pure CHG line and it is used to better seperater CHG from EHG. Also same goes with AHG and EEF: AHG hast an eastern shift and lacks the natufian component that EEF has. It is also used in population/individual testing to see which fits better.

And no genetic scientist uses G25 for professinal work , since you mentioned that it is based on PCA. You do realise that they have there own ways or software to do the PCA. Which is different then G25 from Davidski.
Or rather let me be more clear Davdskis coords are a joke for ancestral calculation no serous scientist uses that. Not to even talk about his methods how he creates the coords. But i won't go into that now.
G25 is only good for general clustering but not to break down your ancestral components.

Read that bolded sentence. Let me give you an English lesson. That is an insulting sentence. You made that comment towards me. And I responded. The rest of the critique is fine.

I'm starting to think there is just a language barrier.

[Fistora]

I guess, i can't go beyond that now, I will probably have to put the another samples to the source.

[Gannicus]

I guess, i can't go beyond that now, I will probably have to put the another samples to the source.

I'm impressed that the p-value is that high with that many references!

[Grace O'Malley]

My FST distances to modern English individuals:

Attachment 142233
Attachment 142234

Scottish individuals:

Attachment 142235

I don't know why that last Scottish sample is so different from the others.

From what I understand, FST is not designed to detect subtle admixture.

Here's the my fst for Orcadians, Scottish and English.







So is this not in distance order because looking at this wouldn't No 13 be closest to me?

[Opie]

Here's a model that I used

Sources 6 / 10
Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya.AG


Greece_NeaNikomedeia_EN.SG


Georgia_Kotias_Mesolithic.SG


Mongolia_EIA_SlabGrave_1.AG


Israel_Natufian_d.AG


Iran_Wezmeh_N.SG




References 12 / 30
Cameroon_ShumLaka_SMA.AG


Belgium_GoyetQ116_1_UP.AG


Russia_AfontovaGora3_UP.AG


Russia_LenaRiver_N.SG


Russia_DevilsCave_N.SG


Turkey_Central_Pinarbasi_Epipaleolithic.AG


Morocco_Iberomaurusian.AG


Russia_Tyumen_HG.SG


Georgia_Satsurblia_LateUP.SG


Iran_TepeAbdulHosein_N.SG


Jordan_PPNB.AG


Turkey_Marmara_Barcin_N.SG

[Opie]

Here's a model that needs improvement



Sources 4 / 10
Turkey_Marmara_Barcin_N.AG


Iran_GanjDareh_N.AG


Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya.AG


Russia_DevilsCave_N.SG




References 13 / 30
Mbuti.DG


Russia_UstIshim_IUP.DG


Russia_Kostenki14_UP.SG


Russia_YuzhniyOleniyOstrov_Mesolithic.AG


Russia_Kolyma_Mesolithic.SG


Russia_AfontovaGora3_UP.AG


Georgia_Kotias_UP.SG


India_GreatAndaman_100BP.SG


Han.DG


Papuan.DG


Karitiana.DG


Italy_Epigravettian.AG.BY.AA


Jordan_PPNB.AG