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    Here’s a clean Apricity-style post you can drop straight into a thread, brother:
    Target: Svetozar_scaled
    Distance: 0.0256 (excellent fit)
    Breakdown (G25):
    55.5% Early Modern Balkan Roma
    13.6% Southeast European
    11.2% Keltic
    9.4% Proto-Slav
    6.2% Old German
    2.3% Volga Finn
    1.8% Eurasian
    Interpretation (Autosomal):
    Primarily Balkan Roma, but with clear assimilation signals: a strong Southeast European (Serb/Bulgarian/Greek) pull and a noticeable Central European element (Keltic + Old German, consistent with Hungarian/Austro-German influence). This fits perfectly with the multi-ethnic history of Banat/Vojvodina, where Hungarians, Germans, and Serbs lived alongside Roma.
    Extra Evidence (Other Tests):
    On MyHeritage and AncestryDNA, I am placed in genetic communities tied to Hungary and Vojvodina, showing segment sharing with locals from those regions.
    My mtDNA haplogroup is T2b5, which is European and not a typical Roma maternal lineage (most Roma carry South Asian or Near Eastern mtDNA). This suggests at least one maternal line was absorbed from the local European population.
    Conclusion:
    Genetically I cluster as Balkan Roma with significant Southeast European and Central European input. My results reflect the complex history of the Vojvodina/Banat borderlands, where Roma mixed with Hungarians, Serbs, and Germans.
    �� Do you also want me to make you a short one-liner signature (like “Balkan Roma with Hungarian/Serb admixture, mtDNA T2b5”) you can use under posts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feiichy View Post
    I usually don't score Germanic. Do you like my calculator? I think it's best I ever did.
    I like it, its great.
    I think you indeed score something western, either Germanic or Celtic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hazmatnik View Post
    But infinitive is completely absent in Prizren - Timok dialect, unlike in standard serbian. Pišem still has infinitive pisati, unlike in southern dialects. I dont see any author includes serbian in Balkan Sprachbund.
    Plus down there we have some extra phonemes not present in standard serbian, like дз and ъ.
    I know.
    I only gave you example where is more popular to use "Balkan Sprachbund" version, than infintive.
    It is rare, but still exception
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dušan View Post
    I like it, its great.
    I think you indeed score something western, either Germanic or Celtic.
    What about me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortimer View Post
    Here’s a neat Apricity-style summary you can copy-paste, brother:
    Target: Svetozar_scaled
    Distance: 0.0256 (excellent fit)
    Breakdown:
    55.5% Early Modern Balkan Roma
    13.6% Southeast European
    11.2% Keltic
    9.4% Proto-Slav
    6.2% Old German
    2.3% Volga Finn
    1.8% Eurasian
    Interpretation:
    Svetozar models primarily as Balkan Roma, but with a clear pull toward mainstream Southeast Europeans (Serbs/Bulgarians/Greeks) and a noticeable Central European element (Hungarian/Austro-German influence). The Proto-Slav and SE Euro parts point to a Balkan-Slavic background, while the Keltic/Old German contributions reflect Central European input, very likely tied to the Hungarian and German presence in Banat/Vojvodina. Minor Volga-Finn and Eurasian traces are typical in broader Roma/Balkan models.
    Overall, the result fits well with someone of Balkan Roma heritage shaped in a multi-ethnic Central European borderland.
    Want me to also make you a shorter one-liner (like people sometimes put under their forum signature: “Roma-Balkan with Central European pull”) for Apricity?
    Quote Originally Posted by Mortimer View Post
    Yes brother, that actually lines up very well with your G25 result ��
    1. MyHeritage / AncestryDNA “Genetic Communities”
    When they place you in Hungary + Vojvodina clusters, that’s not random.
    It means you share long identical-by-descent DNA segments with many tested people from those regions.
    This is consistent with local assimilation in Vojvodina/Banat, where Roma mixed with Hungarians, Serbs, and Germans.
    So yes — that’s extra independent evidence that your ancestry isn’t just “Roma → Serbia,” but also tied to Hungary and the multi-ethnic population of Vojvodina.
    2. mtDNA T2b5
    Roma maternal haplogroups are typically M5a1, M18, U3, H24, etc. (South Asian or Middle Eastern origin).
    T2b5 is not a classic Roma marker. It’s a European maternal lineage, common in Central and Southeastern Europe.
    That suggests your maternal line was absorbed from the local European population at some point (could be Hungarian, Serbian, German, or other).
    3. How It All Fits Together
    Autosomal DNA (G25) → shows a Roma base with Central European (Hungarian/German) and Balkan Slavic admixture.
    Genetic Communities → place you in exactly that historical region (Hungary + Vojvodina).
    mtDNA T2b5 → confirms at least one maternal ancestor was not Roma, but European.
    So the three pieces of evidence reinforce each other.
    �� In short: you’re Roma by majority ancestry, but with Central European and Balkan input—and your maternal line (T2b5) proves that part of your family tree was absorbed from locals, not originally Roma.
    Do you want me to write this up as a clean Apricity-style post combining G25 + MyHeritage/Ancestry + mtDNA into one interpretation? That way you could share the “full package” in one post
    I think your results make sense. Hungarian Roma are part ethnic Hungarian, and Vojvodina was part of Hungary. Maybe that's where your German (Au/mtDNA) comes from, as ethnic Magyars are very intermixed with Germans.

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    Target: Nurzat_dad
    Distance: 2.1596% / 0.02159641
    61.8 Proto_Slav
    26.4 SE_Euro
    7.4 Old_German
    4.4 Eurasian


    Target: Nurzat
    Distance: 1.9066% / 0.01906592
    50.6 Proto_Slav
    36.2 SE_Euro
    8.0 Old_German
    2.6 Eurasian
    2.6 Volga_Finn


    Target: Nurzat_maternal_grandma
    Distance: 2.5287% / 0.02528662
    51.8 Proto_Slav
    43.0 SE_Euro
    3.2 Volga_Finn
    2.0 Eurasian


    Distance to: Nurzat_dad
    0.05391280 Proto_Slav
    0.06407338 Old_German
    0.06570748 Keltic
    0.11674799 SE_Euro
    0.12919039 Volga_Finn
    0.38238087 Eurasian

    Distance to: Nurzat
    0.05459408 Keltic
    0.06484453 Proto_Slav
    0.06596373 Old_German
    0.10178011 SE_Euro
    0.13963904 Volga_Finn
    0.38727606 Eurasian

    Distance to: Nurzat_maternal_grandma
    0.05386105 Keltic
    0.07344452 Proto_Slav
    0.07510184 Old_German
    0.09523714 SE_Euro
    0.14779024 Volga_Finn
    0.39060055 Eurasian

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    Quote Originally Posted by Figaro View Post
    Target: FigaroMom
    Distance: 1.4911% / 0.01491139
    51.4 Proto_Slav
    32.4 Old_German
    14.2 SE_Euro
    2.0 Eurasian

    Target: FigaroDad
    Distance: 1.8777% / 0.01877687
    65.2 Old_German
    14.8 Proto_Slav
    11.4 SE_Euro
    7.8 Keltic
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    Possible my mother has distant Tatar ancestry? Could be Baltic noise, but every once in a while a calculator makes me wonder..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Figaro View Post
    Possible my mother has distant Tatar ancestry? Could be Baltic noise, but every once in a while a calculator makes me wonder..
    Could be Lipka Tatar? Will you add your mother to the Poles from Kresy Project?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cass View Post
    Target: cass
    Distance: 1.2016% / 0.01201626
    54.0 Proto_Slav
    37.2 Old_German
    4.8 Keltic
    4.0 SE_Euro
    My friend who is half Serbian and Half Russian score similar ressults, kashubians are his closest population, but he score a bit extra germanic, it could be from his Russ side.

    Target: friend
    Distance: 1.7313% / 0.01731307
    56.8 Proto_Slav
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    Target: Oszkar
    Distance: 2.5489% / 0.02548905 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    44.6 Keltic
    33.4 Proto_Slav
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